Rugby World Cup 2019 Japan The hunt for Webb Ellis

Podge_irl

munsterlegend wrote: »

I wonder are people underestimating Samoa. They have a great rugby tradition and would be on a similar level to Fiji who gave Australia plenty of it. I would if the remaining games fear them far more than japan.

Not been following them closely but they don't really appear to be anywhere near Fiji's level at the moment. They lost to the US and Fiji in the Pacific Nations Cup anyway.

munsterlegend

Podge_irl wrote: »

Not been following them closely but they don't really appear to be anywhere near Fiji's level at the moment. They lost to the US and Fiji in the Pacific Nations Cup anyway.

I watched them against Australia recently and they were competitive enough and will have improved further by the time we play them. They lost to fiji 10-3 in fiji which shows they are defensively solid. Yeah we should beat them with a bit to spare but Scotland could struggle.

molloyjh

So Eddie Jones has selected Billy V to start yet again. He has now started all 4 warm up games and the first 2 pool games. With the toughest 2 games still to come in their pool I dont see him being rested at all this RWC. He could be expected to play as many as 11 tests in a row now should England make it to the last weekend and he remain fit. Player welfare my @rse. That just seems ridiculous.

Squidgy Black

molloyjh wrote: »

So Eddie Jones has selected Billy V to start yet again. He has now started all 4 warm up games and the first 2 pool games. With the toughest 2 games still to come in their pool I dont see him being rested at all this RWC. He could be expected to play as many as 11 tests in a row now should England make it to the last weekend and he remain fit. Player welfare my @rse. That just seems ridiculous.

English Rugby and flogging players. Name a more iconic duo.

Jump_In_Jack

There was a documentary about Samoa I watched recently, might have been Squidge did it.
Basically, the president of Samoa made himself the head of the Samoan Rugby Union and the money allocated to the team, a few million, has disappeared, no accountability, and World Rugby can’t give them more money now.
The players had to do a fundraiser to pay for their travel costs.
Some of the players turned down contracts to remain available for the RWC, some clubs offered them contracts only on the basis they would not play in the RWC.
They have only been training together for a couple of months and have a new coach in the last year basically getting them all together for the first time.
They have unbelievable spirit and pride for their people, some of whom donated all the money they had to the team’s fundraiser and could only afford to eat bread for a week afterwards.
That’s some motivation for the players to represent them eh!!

Edit: link to Squidge's youtube video on Samoan rugby
So what went on with Samoan Rugby?: The Musical | Squidge Rugby ft. Tom Rosenthal

Burkie1203

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Nah Nah brah

We beat them so they must be sh1t. That's the Irish supporters motto

Nope we beat them because we nullified their two threats completely. And they can be got at with simple, well executed discipline in defence like Ireland demonstrated on Sunday. And now they are losing players through injury.

Burkie1203

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Nope we beat them because we nullified their two threats completely. And they can be got at with simple, well executed discipline in defence like Ireland demonstrated on Sunday. And now they are losing players through injury.

sarcasm

Podge_irl

Jump_In_Jack wrote: »

Some of the players turned down contracts to remain available for the RWC, some clubs offered them contracts only on the basis they would not play in the RWC.

They should have just taken the contracts and then gone to the RWC anyway. Pretty sure the clubs would have no recourse. Though it would have made things a bit unpleasant I'm sure!

errlloyd

Does anyone else have a problem making the eirsport app stay in landscape. When I load a stream it starts in full screen landscape, then a few seconds later rotates to not fullscreen

sydthebeat

that was some scrum by the russians !

errlloyd

Gorgeous from TNW

sydthebeat

another crooked line out straight down the attacking line

A2LUE42

Some tough cookie to take that hit to the face and just get up and go again.

errlloyd

Man, I'd be PISSED if someone get away with that against my team.

A2LUE42

Lucky to just get yellow..

razorblunt

molloyjh wrote: »

So Eddie Jones has selected Billy V to start yet again. He has now started all 4 warm up games and the first 2 pool games. With the toughest 2 games still to come in their pool I dont see him being rested at all this RWC. He could be expected to play as many as 11 tests in a row now should England make it to the last weekend and he remain fit. Player welfare my @rse. That just seems ridiculous.

Surprised their doctor hasn’t quit in protest ...


Samoa haunted it wasn’t a red.

sydthebeat

artimev dropping slightly saved him from a red there

AdamD

Can't hear the ref or commentary, how's that not a red?

alswearengen

Has to be red this time

testtech05

razorblunt wrote: »

Surprised their doctor hasn’t quit in protest ...


Samoa haunted it wasn’t a red.

I was expecting the ref's to be really hot on this type of tackle at the world cup, seems they have gone the opposite way so far, think a few of them seem reluctant to "ruin" games by giving red cards but that really shouldn't come into it.

Dave_The_Sheep

Could be another here.

[edit] Should be a red here. We'll see if he's got the balls to give it.

razorblunt

That’s the danger of playing Samoa last, a lot of their players are head hunting for big hits, they have no respect for where they will connect they just fly in.

Samoan hooked knocked himself out with this one.

sydthebeat

another yellow??

razorblunt

AdamD wrote: »

Can't hear the ref or commentary, how's that not a red?

Both times the TMO advocated the Russian dipped into the tackle.

A2LUE42

Another one. Christ. I thought he was a tough nut after the first one, but that is nuts. How can he not be off for hia too.

FrancieBrady

Samoans could wreck our world cup. Has to be reds given for some of these tackles.

Dave_The_Sheep

Bottled that.

alswearengen

razorblunt wrote: »

That’s the danger of playing Samoa last, a lot of their players are head hunting for big hits, they have no respect for where they will connect they just fly in.

Samoan hooked knocked himself out with this one.

Just send out the reserves.

Snow Garden

First one should have been red. Might have prevented the 2nd one.

chupacabra

what is Artemyev made of?

Sabre0001

Won't need to worry about Samoa by the time we play them; they won't have anyone left available to play

errlloyd

chupacabra wrote: »

what is Artemyev made of?

He should absolutely be off the field. I can't believe he has been allowed continue.

AdamD

razorblunt wrote: »

Both times the TMO advocated the Russian dipped into the tackle.

Deary me

sydthebeat

being completely cold and impartial... those were two correct decisions.

Artimev dropped into both collisions...but both easily could have been reds had he stayed a couple of inches higher

razorblunt

errlloyd wrote: »

He should absolutely be off the field. I can't believe he has been allowed continue.

He looked fine after both. The samoans were very reluctant to HIA their hooker.

errlloyd

razorblunt wrote: »

He looked fine after both. The samoans were very reluctant to HIA their hooker.

He looks fine alright, but that's a two huge shoulders to the head maybe 5 minutes apart.

errlloyd

Should be a Russian peno for playing on the ground.

blackwhite

errlloyd wrote: »

Should be a Russian peno for playing on the ground.

That's assuming there was a half competent referee, and not Poite

sydthebeat

sense seems to be working... samoan hooker not going back on

blackwhite

Close!

errlloyd

Why did he dive so early. :eek::eek:

Cosmo Kramer

sydthebeat wrote: »

being completely cold and impartial... those were two correct decisions.

Artimev dropped into both collisions...but both easily could have been reds had he stayed a couple of inches higher

That seems to be his running style though - he is always a bit "hunched" in possession.

So if a slight dip in position is sufficient mitigation, no high tackle on Artimyev will ever be a red card.

Both should have been reds for me.

razorblunt

Up and under some for 40 mins if I were a Russian in the second half.

sydthebeat

Cosmo Kramer wrote: »

That seems to be his running style though - he is always a bit "hunched" in possession.

So if a slight dip in position is sufficient mitigation, no high tackle on Artimyev will ever be a red card.

Both should have been reds for me.

incorrect, because if you pause the shot on both impacts, his knees are 90 degrees to the ground... so hes hunching into the impact and not running straight.


if we didnt have the "dipping" mitigation factor. then all all carriers would run head first dipped into contact... and every tackle would be a red.

harr

Samoa will lucky to finish this game will all players on the field... nice upper cut that.

Chris871

This is a hard watch, pretty poor stuff from both teams.

All_in_Flynn

sydthebeat wrote: »

incorrect, because if you pause the shot on both impacts, his knees are 90 degrees to the ground... so hes hunching into the impact and not running straight.


if we didnt have the "dipping" mitigation factor. then all all carriers would run head first dipped into contact... and every tackle would be a red.

Strongly disagree with you here. They are about as clear cut a red card as you will see.

Of course dipping should be a mitigating factor but Samoan player was head hunting there. It’s a ridiculous tackle.

AdamD

That's a yellow, but the other two were reds.

harr

Irish team really going to have to careful with both these teams ... potential for some injuries.

sydthebeat

All_in_Flynn wrote: »

Strongly disagree with you here. They are about as clear cut a red card as you will see.

Of course dipping should be a mitigating factor but Samoan player was head hunting there. It’s a ridiculous tackle.

well we'll see if theres a citing from them.