Rugby World Cup 2019 Japan The hunt for Webb Ellis

kuang1

That means Wales have a great chance to get to a semi now.

eagle eye

Great game, delighted to see Australia lose.

irishbucsfan

Brilliant win. Brilliant game

Happy4all

Well done Wales and Gatland. First half lead and drop goals proved a bridge too far.

England v Aussie Q/F ?

Squidgy Black

irishbucsfan wrote: »

That’s a line out.

If you leave the ground to keep the ball in and then land outside the field of play, the ball is out. Unless it’s changed recently! I think there was a long video of Erasmus explaining all the situations iirc.

Brilliant stuff to watch though

I was of the opinion you had to have a foot in play to do it

FrancieBrady

Brilliant stuff. Wales nearly bottled it.

Former Former

irishbucsfan wrote: »

That’s a line out.

If you leave the ground to keep the ball in and then land outside the field of play, the ball is out. Unless it’s changed recently! I think there was a long video of Erasmus explaining all the situations iirc.

Brilliant stuff to watch though

No, as long as you start in play and knock the ball back in before you land in touch, it's play on.

.... I think

crushproof

Great game to watch over Sunday morning breakfast

Entertaining game ruined by very one sided refereeing. Australia need to do better at the set piece to threaten but you can't win a tight game if some rules only apply to one team.

ionadnapokot

Agh....would have been a brilliant comeback.
Tomua made a huge difference

Happy4all

Squidgy Black wrote: »

I was of the opinion you had to have a foot in play to do it

Interesting. Crucial one to get wrong

Ewan McKenna reveling in yesterday's loss. Not before he deleted all comments regarding what a waste of time these matches were.
Fake prick.

DDC1990

Touch Judge really messed up on that Australian penalty towards the end. Ball was out and the Welsh player Landed way out past the touchline.

Surely it should have been a lineout or is there someone with better knowledge of the laws here who can explain it?

irishbucsfan

Squidgy Black wrote: »

I was of the opinion you had to have a foot in play to do it

You can have both feet off the ground just need to touch down in the field of play before touching outside it, which is very difficult if you’re jumping like Williams did

awec

irishbucsfan wrote: »

That’s a line out.

If you leave the ground to keep the ball in and then land outside the field of play, the ball is out. Unless it’s changed recently! I think there was a long video of Erasmus explaining all the situations iirc.

Brilliant stuff to watch though

I thought it was you could do what he did during normal play, but for penalties the rule is different or something.

Akrasia

That Tipuric offside at the end was absolutely ridiculous.

How is a team supposed to attack if the referees allow defenders to be so far offside

irishbucsfan

Former Former wrote: »

No, as long as you start in play and knock the ball back in before you land in touch, it's play on.

.... I think

Maybe. Only if things have changed in the last year

Eod100

So that's SA, Ireland and Australia with a pool loss. No team who has lost a pool game has gone on to win a WC. Interesting to see if that remains the case this one!

reg114

Wales showing mental fortitude and application all over the pitch. Wouldn't be Gatlands biggest fan but boy he has been some inspiration for Wales over the last decade. Ireland that's how it should be done.

irishbucsfan

awec wrote: »

I thought it was you could do what he did during normal play, but for penalties the rule is different or something.

That sounds confusing enough to be true alright!

Former Former

DDC1990 wrote: »

Touch Judge really messed up on that Australian penalty towards the end. Ball was out and the Welsh player Landed way out past the touchline.

Surely it should have been a lineout or is there someone with better knowledge of the laws here who can explain it?

Law 18:

The ball is not in touch or touch-in-goal if:

A player jumps from the playing area and knocks (or catches and releases) the ball back into the playing area, before landing in touch or touch-in-goal, regardless of whether the ball reached the plane of touch.

Referee was correct

The Lost Sheep

The ball is not in touch if The ball reaches plane of touch but is caught, knocked or kicked by a player who is in the playing area or if A player jumps, from within or outside the playing area, and catches the ball, and then lands in the playing area, regardless of whether the ball reached the plane of touch.
A player jumps from the playing area and knocks (or catches and releases) the ball back into the playing area, before landing in touch or touch-in-goal, regardless of whether the ball reached the plane of touch.
A player, who is in touch, kicks or knocks the ball, but does not hold it, provided it has not reached the plane of touch.

Ref was spot on

DDC1990

Vinnie222 wrote:

Christ you need to brush up on your rugby knowledge .

Fair enough. I'm wrong.

MadYaker

The quality of the officiating would want to improve though.

irishbucsfan

Former Former wrote: »

Law 18:

The ball is not in touch or touch-in-goal if:

A player jumps from the playing area and knocks (or catches and releases) the ball back into the playing area, before landing in touch or touch-in-goal, regardless of whether the ball reached the plane of touch.

Referee was correct

Sounds black and white alright!

irishbucsfan

irishbucsfan wrote: »

That’s a line out.

If you leave the ground to keep the ball in and then land outside the field of play, the ball is out. Unless it’s changed recently! I think there was a long video of Erasmus explaining all the situations iirc.

Brilliant stuff to watch though

If you start in field, jump, knock the ball backwards, ball lands in field, and you land outside... Play on as far as I remember.
You're only out of play when you land, off the field.

It's how you can be tackled over the side line but, as long as you've not touched the ground, you can still score a try

awec

Have those rules changed recently?

irishbucsfan

So we all agree Wales definitely going to win the World Cup now?

Happy4all

Former Former wrote: »

Law 18:

The ball is not in touch or touch-in-goal if:

A player jumps from the playing area and knocks (or catches and releases) the ball back into the playing area, before landing in touch or touch-in-goal, regardless of whether the ball reached the plane of touch.

Referee was correct

And the lesson there.....

Boot it into row Z

The Lost Sheep

awec wrote: »

Have those rules changed recently?

There were changes to plane of touch, touch in 2017

Navanboyo

Only got the last few minutes of that, seemed to be very high intensity. I assume the conditions i.e the humidity was completely different to our game yesterday?

Happy4all

irishbucsfan wrote: »

So we all agree Wales definitely going to win the World Cup now?

Don't think we can afford sarcasm this weekend.

Akrasia

Deleted User wrote: »

irishbucsfan wrote: »

That’s a line out.

If you leave the ground to keep the ball in and then land outside the field of play, the ball is out. Unless it’s changed recently! I think there was a long video of Erasmus explaining all the situations iirc.

Brilliant stuff to watch though

If you start in field, jump, knock the ball backwards, ball lands in field, and you land outside... Play on as far as I remember.
You're only out of play when you land, off the field.

It's how you can be tackled over the side line but, as long as you've not touched the ground, you can still score a try

Yep, it’s called ‘in touch’ for a reason. The player or the ball have to touch the ground before it’s out of play

awec

awec wrote: »

Have those rules changed recently?

Would be weird to have a different rule just specifically for kicking out for a penalty. Just make sure you find your line!!

Lucy8080

ITV saying Davis timed intercept to perfection. Onside.

awec

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

There were changes to plane of touch, touch in 2017

Any idea what the rules were before the change?

I am pretty sure I remember something about not being able to jump and knock it back in.

STB.

awec wrote: »

Have those rules changed recently?

2018 globally.


The global law trials that are to be adopted immediately into the law book have been in effect in the Northern Hemisphere since August of 2017, while they came into effect in the Southern Hemisphere in January 2018.

There are 11 others.

Piers Francis escapes ban
Yellow grade tackle only

penybont exile

Well...... that was fun.

Great win .... typical Wales v Australia game of recent years with the untypical outcome of us coming out on the right side of the scoreline.

Patchell coming on and playing really well is a huge bonus moving forward. Wainwright was superb and our two 9's look razor sharp.

Onwards to Fiji which will be a challenge but if we have the right attitude we should have too much for them .......

Not looking much further than that .....

awec

awec wrote: »

Any idea what the rules were before the change?

I am pretty sure I remember something about not being able to jump and knock it back in.

I remember being able to do it in the 90's

Buer

The most important thing that has been confirmed this weekend is that IBF doesn't know the laws of the game.

We all suspected it but now we know.

The Lost Sheep

awec wrote: »

Any idea what the rules were before the change?

I am pretty sure I remember something about not being able to jump and knock it back in.

Law
You could jump and knock it back in but how you landed was factor etc

awec

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Law
You could jump and knock it back in but how you landed was factor etc

Ah yes.

They also stopped you being able to catch with one foot in touch and one foot in play.

ebbsy

Good game that.

Wales will be there at the business end.

Do Wales have a third 10 in the squad?

FrancieBrady

ebbsy wrote: »

Good game that.

Wales will be there at the business end.

Dunno if they have much better prospects than us atm though.

They were slightly fortunate to get so far ahead and nearly nearly bottled it. Again, without 'blaming' the ref, he certainly was a factor in them eeking out a win.

fryup

Thought Wales made hard work of that, got out of jail in the end

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Dunno if they have much better prospects than us atm though.

They were slightly fortunate to get so far ahead and nearly nearly bottled it. Again, without 'blaming' the ref, he certainly was a factor in them eeking out a win.

I think errors made by Poite were decisive in two major swings in the game.

Cork Boy 53

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Dunno if they have much better prospects than us atm though.

They were slightly fortunate to get so far ahead and nearly nearly bottled it. Again, without 'blaming' the ref, he certainly was a factor in them eeking out a win.

I would tip them to beat either France or Argentina in the quarter finals. Beyond that depends on who they play.

Former Former

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think errors made by Poite were decisive in two major swings in the game.

What errors though?

His interventions (or the TMO) had a big bearing but he got them all correct IMO