Rugby World Cup 2019 Japan The hunt for Webb Ellis

mogwai81

Shefwedfan wrote: »

So do we want Scotland to win or not?

I think so, we want them with something to play for when they play Japan in the last group game. Really need them to beat Japan for us to finish top.

Bazzo

Bridge93 wrote: »

We want Scotland to win and ideally play very well. They can get to 15 points max. We can get to 16. Need Scotland interested and playing well ahead of Japan while also ending Samoa's interest

Samoa are probably only playing to get a tier 1 scalp, don't think losing today will affect their motivation at all.

FrancieBrady

Samoa looking very amateur so far.

testtech05

How was Jack Lam allowed back on there, he looked all over the place going off.

FrancieBrady

Scots look to be suffering from the humidity already...could be a big factor here if they don't build a good lead.

razorblunt

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Scots look to be suffering from the humidity already...could be a big factor here if they don't build a good lead.

BBC radio 5 live talking about using shampoo on the (rugby) balls?
Is that actually a thing?

FrancieBrady

razorblunt wrote: »

BBC radio 5 live talking about using shampoo on the (rugby) balls?
Is that actually a thing?

Scots trained with them i think while the Welsh were more posh.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/wales-rugby-team-train-balls-16923774

Podge_irl

Scotland not getting a BP would be good for Japan at least. I'd like Scotland to beat Japan for us to get first in the group, but I'd really like Japan to qualify. With BP wins all round for everyone then it would require a Scotland win by less than 7 in the Sco-Jap game. But if Scotland fail to get a couple BP then Japan might be already through by the last game I think.

techdiver

Podge_irl wrote: »

Scotland not getting a BP would be good for Japan at least. I'd like Scotland to beat Japan for us to get first in the group, but I'd really like Japan to qualify. With BP wins all round for everyone then it would require a Scotland win by less than 7 in the Sco-Jap game. But if Scotland fail to get a couple BP then Japan might be already through by the last game I think.

The best for us is Scotland still being in the hunt going into the Japan game and ideally only needing 4 points as opposed to chasing a BP win.

razorblunt

techdiver wrote: »

The best for us is Scotland still being in the hunt going into the Japan game and ideally only needing 4 points as opposed to chasing a BP win.

If Scotland have nothing to play for going in to that last game then thats the perfect time for them to get a BP win with a 30 point margin.

Its perfectly Scotland.

FrancieBrady

Scotland making hard hard work of it. Could go anyway this game

Edit: Finally!

jammiedodgers

Peach of a kick

Bazzo

Glad Wee Greig wasn't playing like this on the opening weekend.

thomond2006

Two tries. TBP on the way.

Laidlaw got a nice little speed boost off the Somaon 15

Whats with the music they are playing? Are they specific to each country?

FrancieBrady

If we can't construct a BP win against these guys we might be better off at home tbh. They have just made Scotland look good in the last 5 minutes.

razorblunt

Lovely drop goal from Hogg.

Pudsy33

Samoa are complete ****e

Bazzo

Scotland are motoring now. Be surprised if they don't get the tbp though half time is probably coming at the wrong time for them.

Pudsy33

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Whats with the music they are playing? Are they specific to each country?

Looks like it. Wonder what Samoan pop song they've got lined up.

Anjobe

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Samoans with two players suspended already. Dangerous feckers!

Tana Umaga is on the Radio Five Live commentary - wonder what he will have to say about any dangerous tackles?

This is the best I've seen from Scotland in a long time

razorblunt

Who's the Irish lad on BBC Radio 5 Live?
It's not Tom English is it?


Good to see them call out the cynical second penalty that immediately kills any advantage, that's been happening far too often. If it's not killed immediately it's attempted repeatedly.
Should be an instant yellow like not releasing by the tryline is.

gooch2k9

That was stupid.

razorblunt

Wait, I thought if you kick it out without telling the referee you want to play the lineout it's half over?
I didn't know you play the lineout by default?

Squidgy Black

razorblunt wrote: »

Wait, I thought if you kick it out without telling the referee you want to play the lineout it's half over?
I didn't know you play the lineout by default?

You have to tap then kick it into touch for the half to be over.

razorblunt

razorblunt wrote: »

Wait, I thought if you kick it out without telling the referee you want to play the lineout it's half over?
I didn't know you play the lineout by default?

Nah default is lineout. Gotta tap it before kicking it out if you want that

Last 5 minutes was much more the Scotland I have come to expect. Panicky for no reason when steady heads are needed

FrancieBrady

If Scotland are any good they should put 50 points on these guys.

Podge_irl

techdiver wrote: »

The best for us is Scotland still being in the hunt going into the Japan game and ideally only needing 4 points as opposed to chasing a BP win.

Yeah I know. I really want Japan to also qualify though.

techdiver

Podge_irl wrote: »

Yeah I know. I really want Japan to also qualify though.

I understand, but if we want ireland to top the group we need Scotland in as strong a position as possible going into the Japan game.

endabob1

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Such a shame South Africa cant do more for rugby in Namibia, Kenya, Zimbabwe

Actually South Africa do an awful lot for Rugby in Nambia and have had them involved in their domestic competitions.
They have had over the years teams from Zim & Kenya too but Namibia's domestic based players play in the second tier of the currie cup, they used to play in the vodacom cup.

South Africa did the same for Argentina when they were joining the Rugby Championship

Ash.J.Williams

In my place of work today we seem to have a lot of humidity experts

FrancieBrady

Samoan collapse incoming.

The Lost Sheep

endabob1 wrote: »

Actually South Africa do an awful lot for Rugby in Nambia and have had them involved in their domestic competitions.
They have had over the years teams from Zim & Kenya too but Namibia's domestic based players play in the second tier of the currie cup, they used to play in the vodacom cup.

South Africa did the same for Argentina when they were joining the Rugby Championship

I know theyve had a side from Namibia but lot more assistance could be provided for them and sides from those countries.

Cosmo Kramer

Podge_irl wrote: »

Yeah I know. I really want Japan to also qualify though.

Don't really understand this, Japan doing well is going to be bad for us, while there are unlikely permutations that could see us top the group with them also qualifying, it is amost certain now that Japan will either win the group at our expense or else they won't qualify at all.

Therefore we want Scotland to do well from here and knock them out. Ultimately I couldn't care less about Japan beyond that.

KrustyUCC

Yup we really want Scotland to win with BP and also win v Russia with BP

Japan will prob be on 14 with BP win over Samoa

Any Scotland win will help us then in last match

Cosmo Kramer

Cosmo Kramer wrote: »

Don't really understand this, Japan doing well is going to be bad for us, while there are unlikely permutations that could see us top the group with them also qualifying, it is amost certain now that Japan will either win the group at our expense or else they won't qualify at all.

Therefore we want Scotland to do well from here and knock them out. Ultimately I couldn't care less about Japan beyond that.

Love of the game: I want them to qualify
Selfish reasons: I want them in 3rd

Here is the question:

Even looking at an improved Scotland, can they even beat Japan?

KrustyUCC

They could beat Japan alright but Japan would be heavy favourites

FrancieBrady

Are Scotland gonna mess up the BP. Jaysus!

KrustyUCC

KrustyUCC wrote: »

They could beat Japan alright but Japan would be heavy favourites

Yeah, I think Japan will win all their games to be honest

Do we want Scotland to get the BP

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Do we want Scotland to get the BP

Kinda yes, kinda no

Akrasia

Dear god, how did he mess that up?

prawnsambo

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

In my place of work today we seem to have a lot of humidity experts

Well we live in Ireland, home of humidity. That it only usually manifests in freezing fog and 'soft days', doesn't make us any less expert.

Weepsie

techdiver wrote: »

I understand, but if we want ireland to top the group we need Scotland in as strong a position as possible going into the Japan game.

Not sure if I do want then to top group any more. South Africa will likely be the opponent in the QF. They'll have nearly 2 weeks without a game to prep.

Now if Italy beat them and finished 2nd it will be a big missed opportunity

Akrasia

penalty try based on the first replay

prawnsambo

prawnsambo wrote: »

Well we live in Ireland, home of humidity. That it only usually manifests in freezing fog and 'soft days', doesn't make us any less expert.

We have 15-20degree C humidity which makes it feel much much hotter than 20C

BUT they have 25-30C and the humidity!