NBP part II

tsue921i8wljb3

Mortelaro wrote: »

It says I'm in the blue area:eek:

It said that before and then said amber and now it's back to blue

But to be clear,to be covered from that box to my south would mean 20 plus poles along a road with none,to a field at a back entrance to the farm and then up through two fields

Its surely an anomaly

Contact them anyway at Broadband@DCCAE.gov.ie to make sure you're included in NBP.

celticbhoy27

Nbi website updated (I think) allows you enter eircode and email address to keep up to date on info

Mortelaro

Emmanuel Lemon Louse wrote: »

Contact them anyway at Broadband@DCCAE.gov.ie to make sure you're included in NBP.

Will do
I'd contacted Eir 2 yrs ago and they said no

The Cush

https://merrionstreet.ie/en/News-Room/News/Spotlights/High-speed_broadband_for_1_1M_people_in_Homes_Schools_Businesses_across_Ireland_to_start_within_8_Weeks.html

Following the announcement of the European Commission, the Department can now confirm that the final intervention area is now confirmed at 537,596 premises. The following changes to the map have been made:

-37,000 premises originally identified as being served by commercial operators (the “Blue” premises), have not materialised and will therefore be included in the intervention area and the map has also been updated for approximately an additional 2,000 premises identified in the latest Ordinance Survey Ireland data

-Eir has passed approximately 34,000 more premises than the 300,000 it had originally undertaken to pass with its fibre rural network and SIRO has passed 4,000 premises in the intervention area as part of its wider fibre network rollout. These approximately 38,000 premises have been removed from the intervention area.

tsue921i8wljb3

https://twitter.com/Dept_CCAE/status/1196748375904989184?s=20

The Cush

Government press conference following the signing of the contract, approx. 40mins - https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1MnxnEgAnwLJO

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1196748606327476224

allanpkr

a great day for ireland.

The Cush

State Aid decision not published yet - https://ec.europa.eu/competition/elojade/isef/case_details.cfm?proc_code=3_SA_54472

tsue921i8wljb3

1822 days since

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=93168476&postcount=1

Some ride!

Tommy Lagahan

westyIrl wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/cabinet-approves-controversial-3bn-rural-broadband-contract-1.4087859

Great day, great news.

"The majority of premises will get fibre broadband, but up to 5 per cent located in the most remote areas will have wireless connection."

As someone who Eir determined wasn't comercially viable this statement scares me. This is the first I've heard of this crap, whats the deal there?

Johnboy1951

Tommy Lagahan wrote: »

"The majority of premises will get fibre broadband, but up to 5 per cent located in the most remote areas will have wireless connection."

As someone who Eir determined wasn't comercially viable this statement scares me. This is the first I've heard of this crap, whats the deal there?

You will still get high speed the same as others even if you are amongst the small number getting it through a wireless connection.

I dunno what scares you about it.

Tommy Lagahan

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

I dunno what scares you about it.

Every other WISP I've ever used scares me about it

celticbhoy27

Tommy Lagahan wrote: »

"The majority of premises will get fibre broadband, but up to 5 per cent located in the most remote areas will have wireless connection."

As someone who Eir determined wasn't comercially viable this statement scares me. This is the first I've heard of this crap, whats the deal there?

Even if you're one of those 5 percent it's still proper broadband. The problem with wireless bb is contention. It's why the likes of imagine can provide 150mb in the morning and only 1.5 at night.
Thered be little to no contention for a one off location amongst the 5 percent

tsue921i8wljb3

26850 (5%) is an awful lot of wireless premises when you start look at spectrum for high speed connections. I would hope the total would be a lot less than that.

Johnboy1951

Tommy Lagahan wrote: »

Every other WISP I've ever used scares me about it

The existing Wisps will not be involved (unless as sub-contractor) and you will have the same service as those with FTTH.

Nothing to be worried about.

In fact in a lot of cases a good wireless connection could be much more convenient for the user.

Johnboy1951

Emmanuel Lemon Louse wrote: »

26850 (5%) is an awful lot of wireless premises when you start look at spectrum for high speed connections. I would hope the total would be a lot less than that.

I expect it will come down to economics.

tsue921i8wljb3

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

I expect it will come down to economics.

As always!

Johnboy1951

The other aspect of available spectrum ...... if the spectrum is not made available then the State would be open to claims of not meeting their obligations (in the contract) I suspect.
Else that contingency could be applied to most of those 5% to pay the cost of FTTH.

rodge123

FG have guaranteed my vote for next election despite them making a mess of a number of issues (Housing, Health, etcccc)...they have prolonged this far longer than was needed too but I'll give them a pass! (For next election only).
Labour can go take a hike for good, as can the greens.
FF I'll give a chance again, they had the power to pull the plug but haven't so fair play (Despite some of the drivel from Timmahhhhh!)

Eire-Dearg

Will there be a means of knowing if/when your house will be connected?

The Cush

Eire-Dearg wrote: »

Will there be a means of knowing if/when your house will be connected?

The rollout plan is to be published following the signing of the contract, I assume it'll be made available in due course.

tsue921i8wljb3

Eire-Dearg wrote: »

Will there be a means of knowing if/when your house will be connected?

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111805323&postcount=1497

irishfeen

So will NBI have access to both the state owned MAN’s and fibre backhaul network or is it just the MAN network?

tsue921i8wljb3

irishfeen wrote: »

So will NBI have access to both the state owned MAN’s and fibre backhaul network or is it just the MAN network?

I assume they'll have access to whatever backhaul network enet have but that has no bearing on the fact that they will have to build the access network from scratch.

oscarBravo

Emmanuel Lemon Louse wrote: »

I assume they'll have access to whatever backhaul network enet have but that has no bearing on the fact that they will have to build the access network from scratch.

As I understand it, they're only building an access network. Backhaul is the retail ISP's problem.

irishfeen

Emmanuel Lemon Louse wrote: »

I assume they'll have access to whatever backhaul network enet have but that has no bearing on the fact that they will have to build the access network from scratch.

Yes but If they have access to the backhaul fibre then it makes it significantly easier, us for instance are some 20km or more from the nearest MAN.

I don’t know anything much about the backhaul fibre network but do we know can you access it at any point along the line or must it be taken off it at dedicated substations?

tsue921i8wljb3

irishfeen wrote: »

Yes but If they have access to the backhaul fibre then it makes it significantly easier, us for instance are some 20km or more from the nearest MAN.

I don’t know anything much about the backhaul fibre network but do we know can you access it at any point along the line or must it be taken off it at dedicated substations?

They will be using open eir exchanges also.

tsue921i8wljb3

oscarBravo wrote: »

As I understand it, they're only building an access network. Backhaul is the retail ISP's problem.

That would be similar to SIRO's model?

irishfeen

Emmanuel Lemon Louse wrote: »

They will be using open eir exchanges also.

As in the exchanges owned by Eir which have been upgraded with the roll out of the Eir FTTH?

tsue921i8wljb3

irishfeen wrote: »

As in the exchanges owned by Eir which have been upgraded with the roll out of the Eir FTTH?

Yes. Some of them.