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Ryanair discussion ban?

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    #32
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,270 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    They screwed me for € 40 with a carry on bag last Friday in Budapest. A normal Samsonite bag. I am going to choose other airlines going forward where possible. Sick of them.

    Did you not check the baggage fees?


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    #33
    Boom_Bap
    Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    They screwed me for € 40 with a carry on bag last Friday in Budapest. A normal Samsonite bag. I am going to choose other airlines going forward where possible. Sick of them.
    Sounds like you screwed yourself :cool:


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    #34
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    I am a moron....Hmmm.


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    #35
    scamalert
    Registered Users Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭scamalert


    tbf no one really cares about planes, people book flights away they go, just because few fell down, wont make a difference, thus aviation hobby forum.

    moaning about cheapest flight provider is useless most flights are 3-4 hours to travel few thousand miles, hardly major stress in advanced times we live to complain not being treated well when you pay barely 100e when taxi or petrol costs more to get to airport.


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    #36
    jmayo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,186 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Del2005 wrote: »
    Ryanair have always used 737's so why would their buying the newest version of the plane be an issue.

    It's not like they are going to fly it before it's released to fly by the regulators and they won't be doing using the same process again for certification.

    Because the latest version of the 737 is a pile of shyte that has two crashes due to half arsed software.
    Also self regulation is no form of regulation, especially in aviation.
    murpho999 wrote: »
    The fault which is software related had not been discovered yet but is now identified and been fixed.

    These are not the first ever plane crashes you know.

    Flight safety is a constantly evolving and changing area.

    Flight safety was taking a retrograde step with the way Boeing's software was developed.


    Also Boeing's quality is going down the sh*tter all because they now run things on a corporate profit basis.
    They moved some production to North Carolina because they could get much cheaper labour rather than face unions back in Seattle.
    Why not check out the hidden footage and the interviews with Boeing engineers about weed heads now building Boeings ?

    Last year they pushed the idea of cutting huge chunk of quality control inspectors and replacing them with new work practices and automated systems.
    If the new automated systems were developed along the lines of the software on the 737 Max then holy shyte.

    I am not allowed discuss …



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    #37
    Captain_Crash
    Registered Users Posts: 2,762 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    Tow wrote: »
    MCAS is only the tip of the iceberg. It now appears they have to upgrade the flight control computer, the venerable 286 is too slow the handle the 'fixed software' in realtime.

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/06/boeings-software-fix-for-the-737-max-problem-overwhelms-the-planes-computer.html


    Yes I know, I was merely addressing the comment about safety features referring to MCAS warnings being optional extras and why they are not required to be installed as standard (rightly or wrongly)!


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    #38
    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,476 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    TuringBot47 wrote: »
    Boeing also made some safety features "optional extras".

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/mar/21/doomed-boeing-737-air-max-planes-ethiopia-indonesia-crashes-lacked-two-optional-safety-features-report



    I wonder are RyanAir going to pay up for those...




    You've being very defensive there about Ryan Air.
    Of course Irish people are going to be concerned about an airlines choices
    when they're pretty likely to fly with them in the future.

    Again Ryanair being criticised for nothing.
    Boeing should be criticised for having these optional extras. Ryanair will not skimp on safety as a crash would be very damaging to their business.

    I'm not defensive of Ryanair but people just always go on about them.

    Guarantee that the poster who got "screwed" for €40 for their bag did something wrong themselves.
    IAG group doing exact same as Ryanair but nobody says anything.

    Whole group ripped everyone off for years until Ryanair came along and turned market on its head. But it's ok as the established airlines gave "free" drinks whilst ripping people off.


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    #39
    whiskeyman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    zom wrote: »
    Is there a ban on Ryanair discussions on After Hours?
    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    perhaps try the aviation forum



    As it's Ryanair, it's probably in a smaller forum a fair bit away from these larger ones...


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    #40
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    zom wrote: »
    Is there a ban on Ryanair discussions on After Hours?
    Most of boarders are Ryanair customers and they are entitled to discus important issues like Ryanair buying new Boeing 737 MAX (recently renamed to 737 8200)!
    zom wrote: »
    Over one hundred million passengers a year and you think it is a hobby?

    I moved it last night as I felt that it would get a better level of expertise in the discussion in a specialised forum. As such, a 24 hour expiring note was left for those wishing to follow the thread in its new forum.


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    #41
    zom
    Registered Users Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭zom


    Tow wrote: »
    MCAS is only the tip of the iceberg. It now appears they have to upgrade the flight control computer, the venerable 286 is too slow the handle the 'fixed software' in realtime.

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/06/boeings-software-fix-for-the-737-max-problem-overwhelms-the-planes-computer.html

    Thank you for sharing this link - very informative.
    The latest post links to Wall Street Journal saying Boeing problems wont be solved until at least 2020 so I presume we all will forget about MAX in it's name.


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    #42
    Hector Savage
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    Tow wrote: »
    MCAS is only the tip of the iceberg. It now appears they have to upgrade the flight control computer, the venerable 286 is too slow the handle the 'fixed software' in realtime.

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/06/boeings-software-fix-for-the-737-max-problem-overwhelms-the-planes-computer.html

    :eek: you weren't joking !
    It is actually 286 processors!!!!


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    #43
    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users Posts: 14,339 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    :eek: you weren't joking !
    It is actually 286 processors!!!!

    Obviously the problem is that the planes don't come with the Intel inside stickers...


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    #44
    wonski
    Registered Users Posts: 13,685 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    :eek: you weren't joking !
    It is actually 286 processors!!!!

    Like in many planes flying over our heads right now.


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    #45
    jmayo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,186 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    :eek: you weren't joking !
    It is actually 286 processors!!!!

    286 processors are fine.
    Hell you can do a lot with an 8086, but what is not fine is using normal software development principles, as foisted on us all by likes of Microsoft, to develop software for the critical operations of flight control of an aircraft.

    Aircraft development and build must always use the best practices adopted over decades of aircraft manufacture.
    Adopting the suck and see approach of the likes of your major software vendors results in major fookups and major fookups at 35,000 ft result in major deaths.

    Airbus managed to do it a lot lot better because they didn't try cut corners like Boeing are now fond of doing.

    Even worse is the current muppets in positions of power in US are trying to blame the foreigners for the Boeing crashes.
    And yes the head of FAA and senators in a senate committee did just that.

    I am not allowed discuss …



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    #46
    Tombo2001
    Registered Users Posts: 6,657 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    What is this thread about?


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    #47
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 21,021 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    There is a big Ryanair thread in Consumer Issues.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055339093&page=375


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    #48
    Phileas Frog
    Closed Accounts Posts: 946 ✭✭✭Phileas Frog


    kneemos wrote: »
    A general interest story I'd have thought,rather than a specific aviation item.

    Try the travel forum


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    #49
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    zom wrote: »
    Is there a ban on Ryanair discussions on After Hours?
    Most of boarders are Ryanair customers and they are entitled to discus important issues like Ryanair buying new Boeing 737 MAX (recently renamed to 737 8200)!

    There's a mega thread on them on Consumer Affairs. I better home for discussing issues with them than AH.


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