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Is It House or Home

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  • 16-07-2019 9:11pm
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    4ensic15 wrote: »
    What is the place you reside in known as but your home?

    I refer to my home house as “home”, rented places were just “the house” or similar.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭4ensic15


    I refer to my home house as “home”, rented places were just “the house” or similar.

    It makes no difference what you call it. You reside somewhere it is your home.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,523 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    4ensic15 wrote: »
    It makes no difference what you call it. You reside somewhere it is your home.

    I suspect most people would consider a home somewhere where they reside and are free to alter it to their own taste and comfort, you simply do not have that right in a rental property. I rented for 7 years, I never thought of it as my home, just a building I rent that belonged to someone else, there was no emotional attachment that you would associate with a home.

    In relation to penalties, worse case scenario a huge fine and possibly your name published on RTB website and in print/online media That may still be less than the financial penalty incurred by leaving the tenant in situ for a year not paying rent.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭4ensic15


    Dav010 wrote: »
    I suspect most people would consider a home somewhere where they reside and are free to alter it to their own taste and comfort, you simply do not have that right in a rental property. I rented for 7 years, I never thought of it as my home, just a building I rent that belonged to someone else, there was no emotional attachment that you would associate with a home.

    There is no need for an emotional attachment. If you were returning from a pub to the house/ building or whatever and were stopped by the guards and asked where you were going, your answer, if you decided to give one, would be "I am going home".


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,523 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    4ensic15 wrote: »
    There is no need for an emotional attachment. If you were returning from a pub to the house/ building or whatever and were stopped by the guards and asked where you were going, your answer, if you decided to give one, would be "I am going home".

    And if he asked where was I coming from, I’d say the pub, I wouldn’t necessarily tell him the name of the pub. It’s the generic description.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Wherever I lay my hat...


    I always did find calling my previously rented place 'home' odd. Would usually call it 'base' or 'the apartment'. Never did call it home despite over 8 years there.
    Having always hoped to buy and finally was lucky enough to a few years ago, 'home' seems so much more fitting.


  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    4ensic15 wrote: »
    There is no need for an emotional attachment. If you were returning from a pub to the house/ building or whatever and were stopped by the guards and asked where you were going, your answer, if you decided to give one, would be "I am going home".

    And if they asked my address I’d be giving my home address as that’s what I use for everything. The rental address is meaningless.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,786 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    And if they asked my address I’d be giving my home address as that’s what I use for everything. The rental address is meaningless.

    You are particularly traditional to a level not really kept by most others these days though; going on your posts on here.

    Most people do not connect themselves so tightly to where their parents live(d) and consider where they are living - once it is not abjectly temporary - to be home.


  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    And if they asked my address I’d be giving my home address as that’s what I use for everything. The rental address is meaningless.

    Lol, do you mean your mammies house?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,455 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    If I'm on holidays I refer to the hotel as home, obviously I'm very fickle.


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  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    L1011 wrote: »
    You are particularly traditional to a level not really kept by most others these days though; going on your posts on here.

    Most people do not connect themselves so tightly to where their parents live(d) and consider where they are living - once it is not abjectly temporary - to be home.

    I don’t think it’s that unusual to be honest, a lot of people wouldn’t consider a rental their “home”.. That might have been a bit of an exaggeration also, if asked my address when walking home to a rental I’d likely give the rental address but if I was asked for my official address it would be the home house.

    It’s much handier keeping all correspondence at one address and for me has the added advantage that it will be the same address as my own house when built as in my rural area all houses have the same address, simply just have to tell the post man to drop stuff with my name into my house when the time comes. I wound then consider that house home but I’d also still always consider the home house as home too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    There different definitions of “home” :)

    #1 definition will always be my parents house, where I grew up. That’s Home, with the capital haitch.

    Anywhere I’ve lived has also been home. All my rentals were home, as is my own house. My home address changed as I moved.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    I never considered rentals home because I never intended to stay there long therm. Home for me is where you see yourself a bit more long term, adapt the surroundings to you liking and even try to be nice to neighbours.

    That said if I said 'time to go home' I would mean whenever I was living at the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    And if they asked my address I’d be giving my home address as that’s what I use for everything. The rental address is meaningless.

    Your rental address was your fixed address. The other place is your parents house.

    I call any place I live in home. I now own but I called all rental places home, as in that’s where I went after work, or the pub: Home.

    I also used home for my parents house (obvious in context) or Ireland when I lived abroad. As in “going home for Christmas”


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    my home. bought and paid for and a house but definitely my home.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,578 ✭✭✭worded


    L1011 wrote: »
    You are particularly traditional to a level not really kept by most others these days though; going on your posts on here.

    Most people do not connect themselves so tightly to where their parents live(d) and consider where they are living - once it is not abjectly temporary - to be home.

    I went by the house I grew up in and asked if I can take a look around, but they said "no" and slammed the door on me

    my parents can be real jerks sometimes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    fascinating thread. If you are planning and seriously intending to buy a "forever home" maybe. but many of us call where we live, eat, sleep home. It is our resting place, our nest, for now.

    Home is here; I have had so many moves I still sometimes wake wondering where I am so HOME is where my bed is, where my cats are. Not about ownership etc. Dwelling place. Only place i would never ever call home would be prison ie sheltered accommodation...

    Home is wherever I live. According to my choice of way of life. NB council tenant now which makes a difference.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,523 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    Is the question do you call it your home, or consider it your home. As 4ensic posted, I may say I am going home, but I never thought of a rental property as my home, it may be a home, just not mine because I/we could not make the changes which would make it uniquely ours. It belonged to someone else. A rental property was just a house I paid someone else so that I could live there for a short period.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,523 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    Graces7 wrote: »
    fascinating thread. If you are planning and seriously intending to buy a "forever home" maybe. but many of us call where we live, eat, sleep home. It is our resting place, our nest, for now.

    Home is here; I have had so many moves I still sometimes wake wondering where I am so HOME is where my bed is, where my cats are. Not about ownership etc. Dwelling place. Only place i would never ever call home would be prison ie sheltered accommodation...

    Home is wherever I live. According to my choice of way of life. NB council tenant now which makes a difference.

    Given that you can have relative confidence that your occupation will be indefinite, I can see how you consider it your home. If you knew you would only be there for 6 or 12 months, or could be removed at the Landlords determined time, you may not get as emotionally attached.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭Foweva Awone


    My rented apartment is my home, I'm only here a year but would happily live here forever if I could. If I'm still here in a few years, and if I was in a position to buy it from the landlord, I would in a heartbeat. I've lived in maybe 20 rental properties over the years but this is the only one that feels properly like HOME.

    My parents' house that I grew up in is a lovely place to visit - my son and I usually spend every second weekend there - however it is no longer my home and never will be again. I've a great relationship with my parents, as do all six of my siblings, however we have mostly flown the nest now (apart from my two youngest sisters, and they're not far off doing so.)

    My parents worked hard all their lives and, in their retirement, they deserve to enjoy their house. I don't think they'd appreciate us as adults considering it our home.
    I mean they'll always have space for us and our partners and children to visit, but it's the nature of things. We've grown up and moved on. We have our own lives and families and homes, my parents' home is theirs to enjoy.


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  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    Your rental address was your fixed address. The other place is your parents house.

    My address was my home house always, bar something like a parking permit I never used a rental address for anything. Everything from my bank accounts to revenue to car registration, my vote everything basically is my home address. The rental really wasn’t my address at all, I slept there around 4 nights a week that was about it really. If needed I’d have been unable to produce proof of address for any rental I was in, all my proofs of address when applying for anything that requires it are my home address.

    I live at home most of the time now again anyway so it’s also the address I spent most time at also now again.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    rented house is home

    parents house, while youre renting, is home home

    id find it very odd behaviour someone telling me i couldnt call a place home when id lived in it for a few years and paid my way throughout


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    rented house is home

    parents house, while youre renting, is home home

    id find it very odd behaviour someone telling me i couldnt call a place home when id lived in it for a few years and paid my way throughout

    I think it's more the emotional attachment you have to the place. I absolutely hated one of the rentals so that one was considered a stop gap and nothing more, I'd probably consider a hotel room more of a home.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    ah yeah thats certainly a part of it.

    but anyone trying to tell you that you are incorrect to call a rental 'home' is wide of the mark imo


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    ah yeah thats certainly a part of it.

    but anyone trying to tell you that you are incorrect to call a rental 'home' is wide of the mark imo

    Anything can be home once you consider it home. In countries where life long rentals are far more prevalent people very much consider them a home and have absolutely no desire for any other type of accommodation. I do think though that house sharing, precarious nature of renting and lack of freedom to adapt rental to our own preferences (furniture, decoration, maintenance) makes rentals a less homely to those of use who value this kind of stuff. some don't and that's fine too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Dav010 wrote: »
    Given that you can have relative confidence that your occupation will be indefinite, I can see how you consider it your home. If you knew you would only be there for 6 or 12 months, or could be removed at the Landlords determined time, you may not get as emotionally attached.

    spot on! i could never ever return to private renting now. I am attached to the surroundings out here more than the dwelling... But it is safe and secure. Hated
    the uncertainty.

    But all those rentals were my home. even the ones i was deeply glad to leave!

    Thanks for this thread: realising i have left bits of my heart in one or two places I should not have done. Maybe there is a male/female difference in this too?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    My home is where I live, and I pay handsomely for the hovel too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,786 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I slept there around 4 nights a week that was about it really.

    Which is sufficient to make you legally tax resident in a country, for instance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    I refer to my home house as “home”, rented places were just “the house” or similar.

    You never said “I’m going home?” when leaving the pub or wherever?

    Wherever I’m talking about when I say “I’m going home” is my home. That will be my principal primary residence. Why wouldn’t people consider the place they go every day when they are done with socialising or work their home?

    I’ve lived in my current apartment for five years and unfortunately it will almost certainly be the last place I live. It’s my home.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Jamsiek


    I don’t think it’s that unusual to be honest, a lot of people wouldn’t consider a rental their “home”.. That might have been a bit of an exaggeration also, if asked my address when walking home to a rental I’d likely give the rental address but if I was asked for my official address it would be the home house.

    It’s much handier keeping all correspondence at one address and for me has the added advantage that it will be the same address as my own house when built as in my rural area all houses have the same address, simply just have to tell the post man to drop stuff with my name into my house when the time comes. I wound then consider that house home but I’d also still always consider the home house as home too.

    You are saying your house is different to your "home house"?
    Not something I'm familiar with TBH


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