Clare Daly hires son of Mick Wallace as her assistant in EU office

mynamejeff

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I think it is pretty clear that you haven't a notion what you are talking about.

The opposition's job is to question and to expose where necessary. Their ability to do the job of governing or not do the job of governing is not the issue.

The rest of your point is just petty hate. Either of these people or the fact that they do question and they do expose.

the point that you are choosing to ignore is that these kind of low iq populists like daly and wallace, Solidarity–People Before Profit sinn fein sudo socialists are fine in opposition but in the event that they get into power are woefully badly equipped to actually run a country, sinn fein in the north being a very clear and close example of proof of this fact

Yurt2

Clare and Mick are getting a kicking for the same reason that Maria Bailey is getting a kicking. They brand themselves as anti-establisment and then behave in the exact same manner as the establishment. If there ever was a valid criticism of the mainstream political parties, it's the networks of patronage and influence and passing the ball between family members and very set social networks running between generations.

Similarly, FG market themselves as the party of individual responsibility, financial competency and pro-business. When a party member is found out shamelesely shaking-down an enterprise due to her own fecklessness and greed, she, and FG generally, can have no cause for complaint when it's pointed out.

Neither Clare, Mick or Maria can bellyache about the media and public coming at them - political stupidity even attempting such things thinking you won't draw heat.

FrancieBrady

mynamejeff wrote: »

the point that you are choosing to ignore is that these kind of low iq populists like daly and wallace, Solidarity–People Before Profit sinn fein sudo socialists are fine in opposition but in the event that they get into power are woefully badly equipped to actually run a country, sinn fein in the north being a very clear and close example of proof of this fact

What is it about FG FF that convinces you that they know how?

No party has all the answers/will keep everyone happy. No party ever has or will.

That is why it is vital to have an active and vocal opposition. Which this pair have done, whether you like them or not.
What is mostly being expressed here is personal hate for them.

Yurt2

mynamejeff wrote: »

the point that you are choosing to ignore is that these kind of low iq populists like daly and wallace, Solidarity–People Before Profit sinn fein sudo socialists are fine in opposition but in the event that they get into power are woefully badly equipped to actually run a country, sinn fein in the north being a very clear and close example of proof of this fact

The only reason that FG appear in the eyes of their constituents as "competent" (their USP), is the army of PR gurus, communications specialists, speechwriters and highly-paid advisors (often poached from the media, who ensure gov. screw ups are softballed in the papers as much as possible). This cabinet lacks talent, plain and simple. I'd only rate Coveney and Bruton out of the entire bunch.

If a left-wing government were elected tomorrow, the PR and communications industry would migrate to peddling their line overnight.

mynamejeff

I never said ff or fg are competent but Daly and wallace and a lot of the rest are criminals and fraudsters same as the rest ,

the difference is that they paint them self's as crusaders and whiter than white to attract the populist votes,

FrancieBrady

mynamejeff wrote: »

I never said ff or fg are competent but Daly and wallace and a lot of the rest are criminals and fraudsters same as the rest ,

the difference is that they paint them self's as crusaders and whiter than white to attract the populist votes,

I wouldn't regard the principal achievements of Daly as 'populist' issues. They needed addressing. FFA is not a 'populist issue.

I wouldn't regard all that we have found out about the Gardai as populist either.

You are just ranting ineffectually really, because it doesn't stack up.

Yurt2

mynamejeff wrote: »

I never said ff or fg are competent but Daly and wallace and a lot of the rest are criminals and fraudsters same as the rest ,

the difference is that they paint them self's as crusaders and whiter than white to attract the populist votes,

FF and FG engage in populism routinely and always have done. Modern electioneering is industrialized populism. Populism, of late, has become a cheap epithet that long established political contenders and incumbents deploy against new entrants into the political system.

Take a marketing class sometime, the public is incredibly succeptible repetitive signalling. A lie told a thousand times eventually becomes accepted wisdom.

Plumbthedepths

Yurt! wrote:

. A lie told a thousand times eventually becomes accepted wisdom.

Goebbels was right.

leitrim4life

leitrim4life wrote: »

No time for them but do you really think the penalty points scandal and McCabe would have seen the light of day if they hadn't pushed as far as they did. She was arrested by ags on false charges and ags leaked it to press. Sometimes it helps to have a horrible person asking awkward questions.

This. It has always struck me as odd how she has never made a massive deal about that time her arrest for drunk driving was widely publicised - i.e. it was clearly coordinated to discredit her - and then a few months later it was quietly announced that she was under the limit.

If that didn't have dirty tricks by AGS written all over it nothing has. To her opponents, however, this seems to have been justified. That sort of thuggery by the state's security forces is never acceptable in a democracy.

In this stunt with Fionn Wallace, she's just shown she's as backscratching and mé féiner as the most seasoned FG/FF/Healy-Rea politician. Depressing hypocrisy.

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I wouldn't regard the principal achievements of Daly as 'populist' issues. They needed addressing. FFA is not a 'populist issue.

I wouldn't regard all that we have found out about the Gardai as populist either.

Correct. AGS, like the RCC, has needed a good outing for a long time now. It will be a better force by the end of this. All our permanent institutions and their in-built fiefdoms need a good clean sweep more regularly than they've been getting. The need for keeping a check on abuses of power is the reason why we have elections to sort out our less permanent features. I'm still waiting for the legal industry to be exposed and brought into the 21st century. That will be the mother of all humblings. Centuries in the coming.

joe swanson

mynamejeff wrote: »

er ?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/independent-td-mick-wallace-is-released-from-prison-after-two-hours-inside-34273660.html


although this happened too

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/wallace-got-120k-in-garda-arrest-claim-29289689.html

stink of politics off that second one though

He has never been prosecuted for taking all that money that did not belong to him .

joe swanson

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This. It has always struck me as odd how she has never made a massive deal about that time her arrest for drunk driving was widely publicised - i.e. it was clearly coordinated to discredit her - and then a few months later it was quietly announced that she was under the limit.

If that didn't have dirty tricks by AGS written all over it nothing has. To her opponents, however, this seems to have been justified. That sort of thuggery by the state's security forces is never acceptable in a democracy.

In this stunt with Fionn Wallace, she's just shown she's as backscratching and mé féiner as the most seasoned FG/FF/Healy-Rea politician. Depressing hypocrisy.

Except it was a perfectly legal and justifiable arrest. Maybe if u had read the thread you would know this. The only issue is that some eegit leaked it. Do some research before posting such rubbish .

James Brown

joe swanson wrote: »

Except it was a perfectly legal and justifiable arrest. Maybe if u had read the thread you would know this. The only issue is that some eegit leaked it. Do some research before posting such rubbish .

It was a smear campaign IMO. It's no coincidence she was chasing up on the Garda and making our DOJ and MOJ look like crony wasters.
Her Judge was off the rails too.

lab man

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Matt Barrett

Matt Barrett wrote: »

It was a smear campaign IMO. It's no coincidence she was chasing up on the Garda and making our DOJ and MOJ look like crony wasters.
Her Judge was off the rails too.

She admitted having a whiskey before driving. She made an illegal turn too that was what attracted Garda attention to her.

A perfectly reasonable arrest.

If a fg politician had a drink and was allowed to carry on driving we would never hear the end of the corruption claims from you Matt.

TheValeyard

lab man wrote: »

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I think he spent too much time in the lab.

Plumbthedepths

Topgear on Dave wrote:

A perfectly reasonable arrest.

A small point but what was the necessity of handcuffing her on the side of the road?

Plumbthedepths

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

A small point but what was the necessity of handcuffing her on the side of the road?

I don't know about that bit.

I don't know the legal technicalities of arresting folks for drink driving and I believe there are plenty with observation periods etc etc.
The guard should have known what they were doing would be scrutinised.

IAMAMORON

Nothing new to see or hear, here.

It is who you know....

Why is this even being discussed ?

Plumbthedepths

Topgear on Dave wrote:

I don't know the legal technicalities of arresting folks for drink driving and I believe there are plenty with observation periods etc etc. The guard should have known what they were doing would be scrutinised.

I only pointed it out as several drink drive cases have failed since as the use of cuffs was deemed unreasonable.
The manner in which she was treated and the speed at which her arrest was made public should have at the time been a cause for concern, then again she's only a 'leftie' so that I suppose excused it.

Wheety

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Nothing new to see or hear, here.

It is who you know....

Why is this even being discussed ?

We should never discuss anything,. Close down Boards, IAMAMORON has spoken.

IAMAMORON

Wheety wrote: »

We should never discuss anything,. Close down Boards, IAMAMORON has spoken.

Blah blah something something , it is all a left wing socialist conspiracy .... blaaaah.

It is not fair , blah blah. It is a disgrace blah blah.

They need to have better appointment procedures, more robust, something something chronic nepotism.

Etc.

James Brown

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

She admitted having a whiskey before driving. She made an illegal turn too that was what attracted Garda attention to her.

A perfectly reasonable arrest.

The whiskey had no bearing.

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

If a fg politician had a drink and was allowed to carry on driving we would never hear the end of the corruption claims from you Matt.

Yawn....do you really give a f***?
If a FG TD acted like her I'd have more respect for FG. Ironically I've never voted for Clare Daly but I have voted for FG.

Wheety

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Blah blah something something , it is all a left wing socialist conspiracy .... blaaaah.

It is not fair , blah blah. It is a disgrace blah blah.

They need to have better appointment procedures, more robust, something something chronic nepotism.

Etc.

Appropriate username.

IAMAMORON

A nation sees public representative employ a trusted friend's family member to assist them in new job.

A nation looks around, thinks about it , shrugs shoulders and gets on with its' life.

The Eu appointments committee tenders meeting agenda to discuss likelihood of MEP Daly using unacceptable means to appoint her executive team for Europe.

The cousin's uncles's brother at the head of the investigative committee into ethics in government appointments advises that it be scheduled for discussion at the next convening of the Human Resources committee.

It is decided to set up a sub committee to advance the investigation. A leading accounting firm are paid 98k to overlook appointment procedures to the special committee.

The conmittee's findings are inconclusive but generally surmise that the appointment procedures were adhered to .

Happy Christmas.

joe swanson

Matt Barrett wrote: »

It was a smear campaign IMO. It's no coincidence she was chasing up on the Garda and making our DOJ and MOJ look like crony wasters.
Her Judge was off the rails too.

'Crony wasters' I presume you mean Clare and Mick

James Brown

joe swanson wrote: »

'Crony wasters' I presume you mean Clare and Mick

No. While the Garda were corrupt and the DOJ/MOJ failing in their duties, we were lucky to have Daly IMO.

joe swanson

Matt Barrett wrote: »

No. While the Garda were corrupt and the DOJ/MOJ failing in their duties, we were lucky to have Daly IMO.

Lucky you never had to work for him.

James Brown

joe swanson wrote: »

Lucky you never had to work for him.

You thinking Wallace of Varadkar? I was talking about Daly.
I see you've not disagreed about Francis and her department not keeping their eye on the ball, or email, while the Garda imploded with paperless contracts and bullying.

joe swanson

Matt Barrett wrote: »

You thinking Wallace of Varadkar? I was talking about Daly.
I see you've not disagreed about Francis and her department not keeping their eye on the ball, or email, while the Garda imploded with paperless contracts and bullying.

I have never once said I supported ms Fitzgerald. I am not a supporter of any political party. Your attempts at deflection are laughable. Trying to derail and get off the point of the issue in hand.

The bottom line is Clare and smelly mick are so loved up that they are becoming the thing that they claim to rail against. Nepotism . Cronyism. The list goes on with these two wasters.

JohnnyFlash

joe swanson wrote: »

I have never once said I supported me Fitzgerald. I am not a supporter of any political party. Your attempts at deflection are laughable. Trying to derail and get off the point of the issue one hand.

The bottom line is Clare and smelly mick are so loved up that they are becoming the thing that they claim to rail against. Nepotism . Cronyism. The list goes on with these two wasters.

Wallace really is a rare detail when you consider what he has done in his past - putting his paw into his employees pension fund, signing over his vineyard and gaff in Italy to his brother, his repugnant ‘gaff’ where he tried to insinuate that the Paris attacks were somehow related to their foreign policy, pretending to a ‘man of da peeeple’ while underpaying his mortgage on his million euro redbrick in Clontarf.

He’s the sort that appeals to the ‘rage against the machine’ sorts because he dresses like a tramp and pretends he’s a socialist.

James Brown

joe swanson wrote: »

I have never once said I supported ms Fitzgerald. I am not a supporter of any political party. Your attempts at deflection are laughable. Trying to derail and get off the point of the issue in hand.

The bottom line is Clare and smelly mick are so loved up that they are becoming the thing that they claim to rail against. Nepotism . Cronyism. The list goes on with these two wasters.

I spoke on Daly. You replied 'lucky you never had to work for him'. So who's deflecting what?
I am against nepotism and cronyism and this is disappointing.
I'd still take Daly over anyone affiliated with FF/FG any day of the week.

joe swanson

Matt Barrett wrote: »

I spoke on Daly. You replied 'lucky you never had to work for him'. So who's deflecting what?
I am against nepotism and cronyism and this is disappointing.
I'd still take Daly over anyone affiliated with FF/FG any day of the week.

I don't doubt you. The types of people to support the likes of these wasters are unable or unwilling to listen to any criticism of their idols.

James Brown

joe swanson wrote: »

I don't doubt you. The types of people to support the likes of these wasters are unable or unwilling to listen to any criticism of their idols.

So you're just ignoring comments you don't like?

I am against nepotism and cronyism and this is disappointing.

realdanbreen

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Blah blah something something , it is all a left wing socialist conspiracy .... blaaaah.

It is not fair , blah blah. It is a disgrace blah blah.

They need to have better appointment procedures, more robust, something something chronic nepotism.

Etc.

This from the guy who finds Love Island 'intriguing' !

ClanofLams

Anyone surprise by this development given Wallace’s track record is naive at best.

Utter Consternation

ClanofLams wrote: »

Anyone surprise by this development given Wallace’s track record is naive at best.

There should be plenty people surprised as people vote for this shyster by the bucketload.