Werewolf: Batman

Henry WW

Sorry. I didn't read the flavor. I didn't know Alfred could shoot twice in one day.

Abigail WW

Alfred, who ever you are, put the gun down until we have a confirmed read on someone.

Wendy WW

Eva WW wrote: »

Alfred shot Barbara and I’m sure whoever Alfred is has a mind of their own to make that decision for themselves.

Des was hanged today and he was a villager, what are your thoughts on that?

Brendan and Jake are evil, there's my initial thoughts until I have a look at some wagonomics.

You're not looking so hot either is my first impression

Orla WW

Alfred Pennyworth - Medic/Vig

Ex-special forces, Alfred Pennyworth is not only extremely capable with a rifle but also with a medical kit be that suturing wounds, removing bullets or administering antidotes. Alfred has in his possession 2 bullets but he can't shoot the same day as he cures someone and this Butler extraordinaire is usually the only person who can cure poison in the game

Wendy WW

Jake WW wrote: »

Oi, Wendy House, you gave a few suggestions to me on who to kill earlier!

Yeah so after two villagers die this evening, and one other from your freeze ray, it's deemed a clever idea to shoot AGAIN today.

Bloody hell can we not just calm down and take stock.

But sure what do you care, you're evil

Henry WW

Eva WW wrote: »

Alfred shot Barbara and I’m sure whoever Alfred is has a mind of their own to make that decision for themselves.

Des was hanged today and he was a villager, what are your thoughts on that?

I agree here. I almost called for Brendan to be shot immediately, when he resisted, but I resisted and deleted that part before I posted.

The blame rests solely on the bullet holder.

Rash decisions are most likely going to benefit the Rogues.

I'd implore any potential future renegades to stay their firearms for the sake of the greater good.

Doris WW

Ah ffs lads. Where the **** did the Babs shot come from? Absolute madness. Eva has to go tomorrow.

Henry WW

When he reappeared*

Autocorrect

Eva WW

Wendy WW wrote: »

Brendan and Jake are evil, there's my initial thoughts until I have a look at some wagonomics.

You're not looking so hot either is my first impression

But you’re saying I’m not looking great because a villager has died. Des was a villager and he was wagoned big time today. I may have changed my vote at the last minute but I was open and honest about it, I declared on thread when I did it.

Read back over my posts, you’ll see my head was melted.

Barbara didn’t get lynched, Alfred shot her so I don’t know why you’re grouping us together saying we’re gun toting?

Wendy WW

Lynch results:

Desmond: Brendan, Phil, Doris, Clodagh, Abigail
Barbara: Conor, Jake, Eva
Orla: Holly, Frank
Brendan: Henry, Gertrude
Clodagh: Wendy, Barbara
Liam: Orla
Eva: Angus

I think that's right

Orla WW

Brendan WW wrote: »

Uh oh! Bad Alfred!

Turned?

How did Alfred have two shots and one cure all today

Henry WW

Doris WW wrote: »

Ah ffs lads. Where the **** did the Babs shot come from? Absolute madness. Eva has to go tomorrow.

I don't see why. Her thought process was clear on the thread.

Alfred shot the gun. He is the culprit no matter who called for it.

Alfred has now used his two bullets, so he can now only heal is that correct?

Eva WW

Doris WW wrote: »

Ah ffs lads. Where the **** did the Babs shot come from? Absolute madness. Eva has to go tomorrow.

Me specifically Doris, may I ask why?

Conor WW

Wendy WW wrote: »

It was a CFD. Three of you piled on Babs in the last 30 mins, no one had declared when I left at 8.30pm.

Anyone calling for a shot on Babs immediately is suspect.

Let's calm down and take stock.

Jake and Brendan are evil anyways. Dunno if teamed though.

I wouldn't call it a CFD but I was one of the people advocating lynching Barbara and I stand by it

While I was out I was thinking about her seer tactic, it was completely flawed and hindering the village. Take for example I use that tactic, i'm not the seer but D0 I say I peeked Wolf 1, D1 I say I peeked Wolf 2 and so on. Under Barbara's tactic I now have to stick with these people to help keep the credibility of the tactic. Wendy does the same thing but picks Wolf 3 on D0 and the SK on D1. Now we have two people backing up two teams. Its a ridiculous tactic, the seer isn't that valuable that you should have people defending wolves like she defended Liam.
PLUS and you'll like this Wendy, it completely negates any wagonomics when she is dead cause she's been basing her whole reads on clearing someone D0.


So Alfred was right to kill her, she was literally a hinderance to the village and that was before we had Clodagh's vote manipulation claim (which I believe)

Conor WW

Abigail WW wrote: »

Alfred, who ever you are, put the gun down until we have a confirmed read on someone.

He only had two bullets

Henry WW

Clodagh WW wrote: »

If anyone has a bullet, shoot Babs.

It was Clodagh, not Eva who called for a shot on Babs.

I'm my eyes that still doesn't necessarily implicate her.

Abigail WW

Taking the fact that Clodaghs's vote was changed twice at face value, seems a bit strange. Why would the wolves focus on the same person two votes running.

If it happened once, you would be doubting yourself, did I select the wrong person and possibly put the difference down to that.

Then again there is the possibility that she is sowing the seed that the Counterfeiter is active at the moment.

Taking it that she is being honest at the moment that it happened.

Orla WW

Conor WW wrote: »

I also suggested he didn't shoot anyone, which he acknowledged and ignored. Although as I've said previously I don't think his actions were wolfy, just rash

Conor and Jake

Eva WW

Wendy WW wrote: »

Lynch results:

Desmond: Brendan, Phil, Doris, Clodagh, Abigail
Barbara: Conor, Jake, Eva
Orla: Holly, Frank
Brendan: Henry, Gertrude
Clodagh: Wendy, Barbara
Liam: Orla
Eva: Angus

I think that's right

I’m sorry but me Conor and Jake made one wagon which didn’t result in anyone’s death. Alfred choosing to shoot him is another story.

Desmond has a wagon of five on him with one confirmed good (Phil) on him and that literally caused his death. The argument wasn’t strong enough against him and that’s where I’ll be looking into tonight.

And come to think of it Doris being on Des and straight in with Eva has to go tomorrow. It stinks.

We’re being played like fiddles, literally ripping ourselves apart and both evils are guaranteed laughing their ways to the finish line. Do they even need to put in kill orders with the road we’re going down? Doubtful. We haven’t got one confirmed bad to the bone baddie, Dent wasn’t even a real one.

There’s far too many people getting glossed over, everyone needs to be looked at tomorrow and I mean EVERYONE! So anyone that needs to look into me and make your own assumption then work away, I have nothing to hide and I’ll be completely open and honest with anything thrown my way.

Wendy WW

How are we fixed numbers wise folks?

Henry you had that list earlier can you repost it with the updated info.

This is a clustermuck with 5 baddies still in play. Le sigh

Jake WW

Orla WW wrote: »

Conor and Jake

Orla be like..

Henry WW

Jake WW wrote: »

Orla be like..

Had Orla focused on those two before? If not she's my number 2.

Wendy I'm on the phone so I can't post anything fancy like that I'm afraid.

Eva WW

Wendy WW wrote: »

How are we fixed numbers wise folks?

Henry you had that list earlier can you repost it with the updated info.

This is a clustermuck with 5 baddies still in play. Le sigh

I was wondering about the numbers myself.

I’m going to hate myself for it tomorrow but I feel like an all nighter is on the cards, I feel like we’re being played big time and it’s doing my head in.

We need to assess the numbers and do some serious digging. I’m going to grab the laptop and have a serious look at votes and player posts then go from there

Wendy WW

Eva WW wrote: »

I was wondering about the numbers myself.

I’m going to hate myself for it tomorrow but I feel like an all nighter is on the cards, I feel like we’re being played big time and it’s doing my head in.

We need to assess the numbers and do some serious digging. I’m going to grab the laptop and have a serious look at votes and player posts then go from there

Holly and Angus are just skating by imo. We need to look closer at everyone

Orla WW

Henry WW wrote: »

Had Orla focused on those two before? If not she's my number 2.

Yes on Conor

Gertrude WW

Henry WW wrote: »

Gothamites
Abigail
Angus
Barbara
Brendan
Clodagh
Conor
Desmond
Doris
Eva
Fiona
Ewan
Frank
Gabriel
Gertrude
Henry
Holly
Jake
Liam
Orla
Phil
Riona
Tegan
Wendy

Good
Batman
Nightwing
Alfred - Medic
Commissioner Gordon - BG
Barbara Gordon - Oracle

Unknown
Catwoman - Thief

SK
Joker
Harley Quinn

Rogues
Penguin - Counterfeiter
Riddler - Gives out puzzles for prizes
Poison Ivy - Gives 2 players potentially poison flowers
Harvey Dent - Good and bad. Has healed someone with the flip of a coin.

• 23 18 in the village
• 5 4 Good
• 1 Unknown
• 2 SK
• 3 Bad
• 1 Changeable
• 8 Normal villagers or villagers +

Henrys list, but not sure where to start with putting the strikethroughs in the roles or the bottom part. I have strikes on des and babs added

Wendy WW

1. Abigail
2. Angus
3. Barbara
4. Brendan
5. Clodagh
6. Conor
7. Doris
8. Eva
9. Frank
10. Gertrude
11. Henry
12. Holly
13. Jake
14. Orla
15. Riona
16. Wendy

Ok, lets calm it down a bit.

16 players.

5 baddies, split across two teams.


So 11 VS 3 VS 2

2 likely dead tomorrow.

Worst case scenario 2 villagers which means 9 v 3 V 2


Baddies have to start killing each other off soon though.

I'm still optimistic. *Shrugs*


Gonna look at the lynch votes on my lunch break and try and break some things down as much as I can.

Frank WW

Two-Face uses the two-headed silver dollar, one side of which is scarred, the other side clean. Flipping the coin dictates Dent when making any significant life decisions. If the coin lands on the scarred side, Two-Face will pursue acts of evil. If the coin lands on the unmarked side, he is compelled to commit acts of good.

Two-Face often defers to his coin in choices of life and death, to the point that he will rely on the coin even if the subsequent flip jeopardizes his own plans. He once collaborated with the Joker and the Penguin to poison Batman, but when Robin suggested a coin-toss to decide the final outcome of the plan, Two-Face attacked the Penguin to get the antidote.

——-


So Dent tossed a coin , it came up Heads and Desmond was saved. Maybe if it came up shady or tails Desmond would be dead? Desmond we now know was good. He , as far as I can remember was suspect of Liam for awhile. Do people think Dent had to be good on Monday? If not then his coin toss was possibly because Desmond was good and he was trying to kill him. Surely dents only village lean was the numbers element?! I wouldn’t fancy having to try to play good one day and play bad the next day?!

I wonder did the wolves suspect Desmond was the seer cause shortly after

Desmond WW wrote: »

Just in case I should be munched. On mobile so quick catch up

Wendy Wolf rolls off the tongue. She's my lock wolf

If I was investigating further I'd have Liam, Steve and Fiona on my list for further analysis. Bad vibes all round! Lynch Wendy first is my shout

Desmond was poisoned and then coin toss by two face (Liam) trying to finish him off.

What that would mean is that Doris got the real poison. This is important as it would sort of clear one person from team wolf anyway. Not just that , it hints that maybe they can only choose non wolves which would sort of clear Phil. Maybe tomorrow will reveal more information.

Wendy WW

Doris never got poisoned you lunatic,

Day 1: Abigail, Desmond

Day 2: Phil, Jake

Gertrude WW

And Phil is dead, so yeah, hes pretty clear.

its a good sign for Abigail though if we're using your analysis for what its worth

Wendy WW

Gertrude WW wrote: »

And Phil is dead, so yeah, hes pretty clear.

its a good sign for Abigail though if we're using your analysis for what its worth

Eh... how so, Desmond was villager.

It means absolutely nothing for Abi's alignment

Gertrude WW

Trying to make a fist of a wagonomics at the moment, but with 2 wolf teams it makes it kinda tricky. There's no real way to apportion clearedness for people voting and being voted by Liam for example. Although he voted Desmond Day1 so that's straight forward enough.

Frank WW

Wendy WW wrote: »

Doris never got poisoned you lunatic,

Day 1: Abigail, Desmond

Day 2: Phil, Jake

Why did I have Doris on my mind for something

I need to start keeping proper notes!!

Gertrude WW wrote: »

And Phil is dead, so yeah, hes pretty clear.

its a good sign for Abigail though if we're using your analysis for what its worth

Yeh exactly Abigail is, in my book, sort of wolf cleared at least. It adds up for me anyway. I suppose it’s Jake who is sort of mini cleared then (he didn’t get poison though).

Wendy WW

I'm literally staring at the votes myself at the moment Gertie.

First thing that stands out is Brendan being so static on Dessie.

Gertrude WW

Wendy WW wrote: »

Eh... how so, Desmond was villager.

It means absolutely nothing for Abi's alignment

Frank made the assertion that the wolves might be only able to poison villagers. If that really is the case, then Abigail could be a villager if she was able to receive the flower. Just because both Abi and Des were healed, doesn't mean that Franks theory is completely out the window

Wendy WW

Abigail is not in any way cleared, this is nonsense.

Desmond is a flipped villager, Abigail is alignment unknown.

Stop making associations for undead players please

Frank WW

Wendy WW wrote: »

Eh... how so, Desmond was villager.

It means absolutely nothing for Abi's alignment

Did you actually read the theory? Every time I soften on you , you go and do this!!! It would mean Abigail is not on the wolf team, maybe SK but not wolf.

You don’t think it was a coincidence that Desmond was attacking Liam all day and you think Liam tossed a coin to save him?

Desmond WW wrote: »

Just in case I should be munched. On mobile so quick catch up

Wendy Wolf rolls off the tongue. She's my lock wolf

If I was investigating further I'd have Liam, Steve and Fiona on my list for further analysis. Bad vibes all round! Lynch Wendy first is my shout

Desmond WW wrote: »

Oh wow, that was stupid, medic had till 9pm no? Why make a decision at this point is bizarre!

Btw Liam is wolf 2 for when I die

NRV + Is basically a role not listed in the OP, I have one of those! I'm dead tonight so might aswell reveal that bit now

Desmond WW wrote: »

On the basis of the Wendy reveal my FFA is

Ewan
Ewan, pure fluff and nothing posting. Genie appearance aswell. I have one other reason linked to my role which I am happy to reveal if the village concensus is there

Fiona
Pure fluff and mechanic posts. Very little of substance and coming across wolfy

Liam
Really think he is a wolf, wanted me to die earlier, thought I was dodge but didnt originally include me in the FFA before later dropping me in. Wolf
Honourable mention for Steve, I feel he is dodgy too.

Wendy WW

Gertrude WW wrote: »

Frank made the assertion that the wolves might be only able to poison villagers. If that really is the case, then Abigail could be a villager if she was able to receive the flower. Just because both Abi and Des were healed, doesn't mean that Franks theory is completely out the window

Why are people discounting that wolves can't fake poison themselves.

Explain it to me please

Gertrude WW

Wendy WW wrote: »

I'm literally staring at the votes myself at the moment Gertie.

First thing that stands out is Brendan being so static on Dessie.

That's a good point. I'm thinking along the lines of a wolf in anti-spew. The fact he only appears when his name is mentioned is another mark. I've only done the colouring in so far.

Taking these two lists at their word for accuracy

Barbara WW wrote: »

Ewan WW: Angus WW, Wendy WW,Henry WW, Abigail WW, Desmond WW, eva ww, Phil WW, Fiona ww
Orla WW: steve ww, Holly WW, Gertrude WW, Frank WW, Jake WW
Desmond WW: Liam WW, Clodagh WW, Brendan WW
Eva WW: Doris WW, Conor WW
Frank WW: Orla WW
Liam WW: Riona ww
Conor WW: Barbara WW
Wendy WW: Ewan WW
Fiona WW: Tegan WW

Wendy WW wrote: »

Lynch results:

Desmond: Brendan, Phil, Doris, Clodagh, Abigail
Barbara: Conor, Jake, Eva
Orla: Holly, Frank
Brendan: Henry, Gertrude
Clodagh: Wendy, Barbara
Liam: Orla
Eva: Angus

I think that's right

Gertrude WW

Wendy WW wrote: »

Abigail is not in any way cleared, this is nonsense.

Desmond is a flipped villager, Abigail is alignment unknown.

Stop making associations for undead players please

I'm using the word "could" - its a theory. Nobody is calling anybody a lock clear villager lol

Gertrude WW

Wendy WW wrote: »

Why are people discounting that wolves can't fake poison themselves.

Explain it to me please

I'm not discounting it at all. I'm just elaborating on Franks theory.

Easy there big fella

Frank WW

Wendy WW wrote: »

Why are people discounting that wolves can't fake poison themselves.

Explain it to me please

Are you purposely ignoring the point I’m making? Look at my post. It’s not “wolves can’t poison themselves”.

Why are being so difficult in this game? Really and truly I don’t feel like you’re on my team and if that’s the case you are bad. You certainly aren’t trying to work with me and I’ve noticed you ignore things I’ve said many times that you had either brought up later or agreed with others. If I had a Bullet I’d be interested to see what it would yield from you cause I wouldn’t have to spend so much time keeping tabs on you.

Frank WW

Gertrude WW wrote: »

Frank made the assertion that the wolves might be only able to poison villagers. If that really is the case, then Abigail could be a villager if she was able to receive the flower. Just because both Abi and Des were healed, doesn't mean that Franks theory is completely out the window

No I didn’t and if I was guessing I’d be inclined to think you Guys maybe on the same team...

You are both twisting a narrative of the point I made....

Wendy WW

Frank WW wrote: »

Are you purposely ignoring the point I’m making? Look at my post. It’s not “wolves can’t poison themselves”.

Why are being so difficult in this game? Really and truly I don’t feel like you’re on my team and if that’s the case you are bad. You certainly aren’t trying to work with me and I’ve noticed you ignore things I’ve said many times that you had either brought up later or agreed with others. If I had a Bullet I’d be interested to see what it would yield from you cause I wouldn’t have to spend so much time keeping tabs on you.

How is Abigail clear of being a wolf though, Desmond is the flipped villager.

If the wolves poisoned Des then they fake poisoned Abigail, there's no reason I can see why wolves can't do that to themselves.

Real poison, nah. Not possible - same as a self munch.

Wendy WW

Gertrude WW wrote: »

That's a good point. I'm thinking along the lines of a wolf in anti-spew. The fact he only appears when his name is mentioned is another mark. I've only done the colouring in so far.

Taking these two lists at their word for accuracy

So if we're looking at static voters then Holly is screaming out to me as another wolf.

Early on the Orla wagon day 1, first on day 2.

Literally no progression from her at all.

Do I think that Brendan/Holly are teamed though? Fcuk knows.

Both have trademark wolfy signs in their voting though.

Angus being early on both wagons is my third takeaway.

Still staring though :pac:

Frank WW

Wendy WW wrote: »

How is Abigail clear of being a wolf though, Desmond is the flipped villager.

If the wolves poisoned Des then they fake poisoned Abigail, there's no reason I can see why wolves can't do that to themselves.

Real poison, nah. Not possible - same as a self munch.

Two face flipped a coin to kill Desmond. Why wouid he do that if Desmond might die from real poison?

Desmond was onto two face from morning 1. Why would two face toss a coin to save him?

Frank WW

Frank WW wrote: »

Two face flipped a coin to kill Desmond. Why wouid he do that if Desmond might die from real poison?

Desmond was onto two face from morning 1. Why would two face toss a coin to save him?

This would Mean Abigail got real poison!

Tell me, why would two face waste a coin toss kill on Desmond if Desmond might have the real posion?

Clodagh WW

Frank WW wrote: »

No I didn’t and if I was guessing I’d be inclined to think you Guys maybe on the same team...

You are both twisting a narrative of the point I made....

I believe this.

Gertrude WW

Frank WW wrote: »

No I didn’t and if I was guessing I’d be inclined to think you Guys maybe on the same team...

You are both twisting a narrative of the point I made....

I was trying to support your argument, but maybe I don't actually understand your argument and to that end, I'd like to bow out right now

Wendy WW

Frank WW wrote: »

Two face flipped a coin to kill Desmond. Why wouid he do that if Desmond might die from real poison?

Desmond was onto two face from morning 1. Why would two face toss a coin to save him?

Two Face was a villager day 1 though, how would he know who was poisoned