#GreatestLeagueInTheWorld LOI 2019 pt 2

artanevilla

tastyt wrote: »

If ye won 190 million lads would ye genuinely buy your club? How much would you be willing to plough into it ?

I wouldn't sell to myself. Bohs must remain a members owned club. I could offer a generous sponsorship however.

chopperbyrne

I wouldn't buy Rovers.

I would make sure they have the best youth academies, and training facilities I could get them.

I'd also help the council out with properly finishing the stadium.

Then build a purpose built indoor athletics centre for Tallaght Athletics Club, and get the National Basketball Arena redeveloped.

Darkglasses

tastyt wrote: »

If ye won 190 million lads would ye genuinely buy your club? How much would you be willing to plough into it ?

It'd be one of the first things on my mind to be honest. Wouldn't be looking to be the next Monaco or something, just try to fund it to be secure enough for a reasonable long term plan.

ShamoBuc

Severe lack of goals tonight.

ShamoBuc

That should see City safe.

Oat23

Maybe people know this already, but I noticed that Flashscore are uploading video of goals via trackchamp usually within 5 minutes of it being scored which is handy.


Not many goals tonight but you can see an example here - https://www.flashscore.com/match/faVixlF4/#video

artanevilla

Take a point up in the Brandywell. 14 year old Evan Ferguson came on. Cue mass hysteria "hE CoULd hAvE BeeN KiLled!"

tastyt

artanevilla wrote: »

Take a point up in the Brandywell. 14 year old Evan Ferguson came on. Cue mass hysteria "hE CoULd hAvE BeeN KiLled!"

Wow he must be a serious talent.

Has he played with the 17's and 19's and ripped it up?

Fan of Netflix

I don't think 14 year olds should be playing. He's just a child. Imagine a 14 year old getting playing ahead of you lol

tayto lover

Poor night in the LOI tonight. Five games and only 3 goals. None in any second half. No home team scored a goal.
Anyway the Town won and that’s all that matters.

MD1990

Sums up the league this year tonight.

Fitness levels are good. Quality very very poor.

artanevilla

tastyt wrote: »

Wow he must be a serious talent.

Has he played with the 17's and 19's and ripped it up?

Came on against Chelsea in the friendly and ripped it up. Basically he's going to England when he's 15. He's Barry Ferguson's son.

Dr. Bre

3 goals in 5 games . End of season feel to it. Poor league this year

topmanamillion

tastyt wrote: »

If ye won 190 million lads would ye genuinely buy your club? How much would you be willing to plough into it ?

Pretty much the same as others I wouldn't be looking to spend big on players. I'd raise the infrastructure up a couple of levels and drift away again. I'd try to stay anonymous.

I'd help Sligo Rovers to finish off the Showgrounds. 4th stand - probably a roofed terrace and roof the railway end along with a few other bits and pieces around the ground.
I reckon about €5 million would do nicely.

I'd pay for a nice training base somewhere either in or near town. A few outdoor pitches and one of those soccer domes and a high performance gym.
Some player accommodation attached too.
The kind of place that would be a destination for all athletes in the West. It would need to be multipurpose to pay for itself and maybe make Rovers a few bob.
Probably spend €5-10 million here.

Clear the small bit of debt they have.

Give them €500,000 to spend as they want and leave them in good health.

CSF

Having a 14 year old play seems absolutely bonkers. Surely unheard of?

johnnyryan89

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

I don't think 14 year olds should be playing. He's just a child. Imagine a 14 year old getting playing ahead of you lol

I'm all in on the if you're good enough you're old enough but I think there should be a rule that lads have to be 16. Adds more value to the player for Bohs and St Kevin's before he moves to England in a couple of years though.

Fan of Netflix

CSF wrote: »

Having a 14 year old play seems absolutely bonkers. Surely unheard of?

The youngest player in English football League history was 15 years old. Reuben Noble for Barnsley in 2008.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_records_and_statistics_in_England



14 is ridiculous IMO

White Horse

Playing a 14 year old child in a senior professional team is just plain wrong.

ShamoBuc

White Horse wrote: »

Playing a 14 year old child in a senior professional team is just plain wrong.

You'd think it would be but some 14yr olds are as big as some 17 and 18 yr olds.

Didnt a 16 yr old start for Barca away to Bayern Munich in the champions league on Wednesday?

Not saying it's right but depending on their build and ability it seems they are starting younger and younger these days.

Oat23

I'm guessing this is the same kid who came off the bench against Chelsea. He didn't look out of place from what I remember and I'd have guessed he was 17 or 18 by looking at him.

diusmr8a504cvk

Good thing he wasn't in the dressing room two years ago or else there would be big trouble.

kksaints

Decent match in Tallaght for a 0-0. We had control of the first half, Rovers the second so a draw is a fair result. Desmond immense in midfield and Kelly had a great game at centre back.

With regard to the Bohs 14 years old. I wouldn't be a fan, at that age he hasn't fully developed either physically or mentally and Bohs are hardly that stuck for players. Would prefer if under16s minimum were banned from senior football.

CSF

Amayah Immense Trench wrote: »

Good thing he wasn't in the dressing room two years ago or else there would be big trouble.

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osarusan

tastyt wrote: »

If ye won 190 million lads would ye genuinely buy your club? How much would you be willing to plough into it ?

Not joking when I say I got somebody to witness myself and my wife agreeing that Limerick would be entitled to 50% of any Euromillions win.



The fact that we never buy a ticket is the only small issue.

johnnyryan89

kksaints wrote: »

With regard to the Bohs 14 years old. I wouldn't be a fan, at that age he hasn't fully developed either physically or mentally and Bohs are hardly that stuck for players. Would prefer if under16s minimum were banned from senior football.

I'm not 100% sure on this, but confident enough that it's possibly true because I'm sure I remember one of the coaches at Limerick saying this in regards to one of our young players but Evan Ferguson technically can't play LOI U19s* as he's seen as being too young but can play with the senior team.

Probably another one for the #GreatestLeagueInTheWorld

*Anyone here involved with any of the underage teams at a club that can 100% confirm this.

wadacrack

ShamoBuc wrote: »

You'd think it would be but some 14yr olds are as big as some 17 and 18 yr olds.

Didnt a 16 yr old start for Barca away to Bayern Munich in the champions league on Wednesday?

Not saying it's right but depending on their build and ability it seems they are starting younger and younger these days.

Hes 17 soon, Bohs are doing it to get a good fee for the lad whos keen ona move to England. They have Brandon Bermingham scoring every game for their u19 team who is an excellent player. Its a strange one that he was overlooked last night

diusmr8a504cvk

CSF wrote: »

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He'd have been sharing a dressing room with a man convicted of sexual assault.

dan1895

Amayah Immense Trench wrote: »

He'd have been sharing a dressing room with a man convicted of sexual assault.

Who?

shanec1928

dan1895 wrote: »

Who?

Izzy

diusmr8a504cvk

dan1895 wrote: »

Who?

Akinade!?!?

dan1895

Amayah Immense Trench wrote: »

Akinade!?!?

He moved to Waterford a couple of years ago before getting kicked out of the country.

diusmr8a504cvk

dan1895 wrote: »

He moved to Waterford a couple of years ago before getting kicked out of the country.

Can you actually read? Seriously.

Amayah Immense Trench wrote: »

Good thing he wasn't in the dressing room two years ago or else there would be big trouble.

dan1895

Amayah Immense Trench wrote: »

Can you actually read? Seriously.

Relax ffs. It's early.

Amirani

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

I'm not 100% sure on this, but confident enough that it's possibly true because I'm sure I remember one of the coaches at Limerick saying this in regards to one of our young players but Evan Ferguson technically can't play LOI U19s* as he's seen as being too young but can play with the senior team.

Probably another one for the #GreatestLeagueInTheWorld

Freddy Adu played in MLS at age 14.

Martin Odergaard played senior international for Norway at age 15.

Harvey Elliott played Carabao Cup for Fulham at age 15.

Reuben Noble Lazurus just few months older than Ferguson having just turned 15 when playing for Barnsley in English Championship.

artanevilla

Gavin Bazunu only 16. Look at the size of Andy Lyons, he's a lot smaller than Ferguson.

CSF

Amirani wrote: »

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

I'm not 100% sure on this, but confident enough that it's possibly true because I'm sure I remember one of the coaches at Limerick saying this in regards to one of our young players but Evan Ferguson technically can't play LOI U19s* as he's seen as being too young but can play with the senior team.

Probably another one for the #GreatestLeagueInTheWorld

Freddy Adu played in MLS at age 14.

Martin Odergaard played senior international for Norway at age 15.

Harvey Elliott played Carabao Cup for Fulham at age 15.

Reuben Noble Lazurus just few months older than Ferguson having just turned 15 when playing for Barnsley in English Championship.

Yeah, it’s defo happened elsewhere. Still think there should be rules against it though.

Even ignoring physical size, or whatever, kids that age do not have the emotional maturity to handle all that goes with senior football in a pro/semi pro league.

Many aspects of pro football can be toxic even for a grown man, never mind a child.

CSF

To clarify I even think Bazunu was too young going in having recently turned 16.

How do we reliably expect him to handle everything that comes with letting in a howler in the 90th minute to allow Bohs to win a Dublin derby?

In certain instances (to me these situations are definitely one) clubs should have compulsory requirements in terms of child welfare.

Amirani

CSF wrote: »

To clarify I even think Bazunu was too young going in having recently turned 16.

How do we reliably expect him to handle everything that comes with letting in a howler in the 90th minute to allow Bohs to win a Dublin derby?

In certain instances (to me these situations are definitely one) clubs should have compulsory requirements in terms of child welfare.

To me it would seem a bit ridiculous to not allow 16 year olds play senior football when they can do so in England/Scotland/everywhere else. Why would a decent player decide to stay in Ireland in such a case?

I have suspicions too that it may be contrary to employment law to have an outright ban on 16/17 year olds being able to play.

artanevilla

Amirani wrote: »

To me it would seem a bit ridiculous to not allow 16 year olds play senior football when they can do so in England/Scotland/everywhere else. Why would a decent player decide to stay in Ireland in such a case?

I have suspicions too that it may be contrary to employment law to have an outright ban on 16/17 year olds being able to play.

They would be playing as amateurs though. It has to be considered on a case by case basis. All teenagers are not created equal in terms of maturity, both physical and mental.

artanevilla

I'm sure his parents were consulted, his father being a former pro who knows exactly what the LOI is about.

CSF

Amirani wrote: »

CSF wrote: »

To clarify I even think Bazunu was too young going in having recently turned 16.

How do we reliably expect him to handle everything that comes with letting in a howler in the 90th minute to allow Bohs to win a Dublin derby?

In certain instances (to me these situations are definitely one) clubs should have compulsory requirements in terms of child welfare.

To me it would seem a bit ridiculous to not allow 16 year olds play senior football when they can do so in England/Scotland/everywhere else. Why would a decent player decide to stay in Ireland in such a case?

I have suspicions too that it may be contrary to employment law to have an outright ban on 16/17 year olds being able to play.

Hold on, to clarify, I did not make my point specific to Ireland. My point was a general one.

Rules that affect children (both inside and outside of football) should be based first and foremost on the welfare of children.

CSF

artanevilla wrote: »

Amirani wrote: »

To me it would seem a bit ridiculous to not allow 16 year olds play senior football when they can do so in England/Scotland/everywhere else. Why would a decent player decide to stay in Ireland in such a case?

I have suspicions too that it may be contrary to employment law to have an outright ban on 16/17 year olds being able to play.

They would be playing as amateurs though. It has to be considered on a case by case basis. All teenagers are not created equal in terms of maturity, both physical and mental.

Honestly, how do you take that on a case to case basis? Any club who has a wonder kid who can do a job in the first team, will try to find a way to make their case look like an exceptional one.

Child welfare should really be in the hands of those who don’t have another primary motivation at play. And that definitely doesn’t just apply to sports.

joeysoap

Probably I’d think I’d trust Long on this, i accept he’s adding value before moving him on, but it must have been magic to the young lad.

Anything you can do, we can do better. ( Bazunu was 16)

Amirani

CSF wrote: »

Hold on, to clarify, I did not make my point specific to Ireland. My point was a general one.

Rules that affect children (both inside and outside of football) should be based first and foremost on the welfare of children.

Yep, that's fair and I wouldn't be against that general point in principle. But practically speaking, we can only really influence what happens in Ireland. Any rule change here without a corresponding rule change across Europe will just lead to kids leaving Ireland earlier to play abroad.

I don't think there's any likelihood of rule changes in other jurisdictions in this area.

Dr. Bre

Will he be in Mick McCarthy provisional squad for the qualifiers next month?

joeysoap

On the subject of goalkeepers


Rogers must be near a record number of clean sheets now in a season now?

artanevilla

CSF wrote: »

Honestly, how do you take that on a case to case basis? Any club who has a wonder kid who can do a job in the first team, will try to find a way to make their case look like an exceptional one.

Child welfare should really be in the hands of those who don’t have another primary motivation at play. And that definitely doesn’t just apply to sports.

Are you going to want to put your prized asset in danger? There risk versus reward at LOI level means the player is more valuable fit and healthy. For me, that means you don't play them if you don't think it's safe.

If the lad does get broken up by a bad tackle, the vast majority of the blame has to be on the opposition player.

When I was 14, there was lads my age with full beards and would have no problem playing a senior international rugby game, never mind football. I on the other hand would have been broken to pieces, and in fact at 30 I probably still would be.

gwalk

Amayah Immense Trench wrote: »

He'd have been sharing a dressing room with a man convicted of sexual assault.

Wasn't one of the coaches at it as well

diusmr8a504cvk

If he's allegedly good enough to play Senior then surely he's good enough to play for the 19's, who he has yet to play for.
Mind boggles.

diusmr8a504cvk

If he's allegedly good enough to play Senior then surely he's good enough to play for the 19's, who it appears he has yet to play for.
Mind boggles.