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klaaaz

klaaaz wrote:

Oh you again, the self appointed opposer of anyone being trans who destroy your "gender norms" view.

I'm not opposed to anyone living how they wish. I'm opposed to being forced to accept someone else's reality as fact. Totally different.

What makes an ally anyway Klaaaz?

bloodless_coup

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Misgendering is a crime here.

What a brave new progressive modern world!

Eric Cartman

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Can you expand on that concept?
Are you implying it was a man dressing as woman just to draw attention off the fact he was man so he could commit crimes. Is a man dressing as a woman not a trans woman. If they identify as a woman we have to legally accept them as a woman. The state accepts she is a woman that's why there in a woman's prison.

it the 'that wasnt real socialism' defense. If a trans woman sexually assaults or abuses somebody or grooms a child then they were just pretending and not really trans because a 'real trans' person would never do that. Or something....

klaaaz

Deleted User wrote: »

Operating a cartel is a fairly serious accusation!

The equal status act you keep referring to that will protect Irish women from a JY situation refers to any services of an aesthetic, cosmetic nature and are what allow hairdressers to legally discriminate. If a barber can't use it in the above situation, there is no reason to believe that a beautician will be allowed to use it

“differences in the treatment of persons on the gender ground in relation to services of an aesthetic, cosmetic or similar nature, where the services require physical contact between the service provider and the recipient.”"

You need to get onto the barbers legal reps as to why they didn't enable the exemption. Hint, they hadn't a strand of hair to stand on over hair on a person's head. And that case involved a trans man, not a trans woman which is irrelevant to the barber case.

Dante7

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Good on him

Its a disgrace that women think they can refuse to wax a man's cock and balls.

I hope he wins his discrimination case.

I know you are being sarcastic, but I am kinda with you on this. Part of me does wish that Yaniv wins the case so that it will really highlight the absurdity of the self-id laws. However, if Yaniv wins then costs and penalties will be awarded against the migrant women who are being sued.
Yaniv is a despicable racist with obvious paedophile tendencies. So on balance, I really hope Yaniv loses and has massive costs awarded against zer.

klaaaz

Eric Cartman wrote: »

it the 'that wasnt real socialism' defense. If a trans woman sexually assaults or abuses somebody or grooms a child then they were just pretending and not really trans because a 'real trans' person would never do that. Or something....

What are you trying to imply here? It looks disturbing.

drunkmonkey

Deleted User wrote: »

What makes an ally

You've to watch a short video on how to be a good ally, then fill out a form. Your then an ally and get your name on the mailing list and your name added to the the list of ally's.
https://www.nuigalway.ie/equalityanddiversity/lgbt/ally/

Calhoun

Dante7 wrote: »

I know you are being sarcastic, but I am kinda with you on this. Part of me does wish that Yaniv wins the case so that it will really highlight the absurdity of the self-id laws. However, if Yaniv wins then costs and penalties will be awarded against the migrant women who are being sued.
Yaniv is a despicable racist with obvious paedophile tendencies. So on balance, I really hope Yaniv loses and has massive costs awarded against zer.

You are just wrong, you don't like this paragon of all that is trans challenging your gender norm views. They just wanted to help those little kids out :P :P :P.

What is next will we actually start saying those who identify as minor attracted people (MAP) are just confused about their sexual orientation.

Being serious if anyone regardless of race, sexuality or creed shows any predatory behavior against anyone but more importantly children who are our most vulnerable we must condemn it.

drunkmonkey

Man who identifies as ‘female’ asks city to approve LGBT pool party for ‘topless’ 12-year-olds, no parents allowed.


She'll be the sword the trans movement dies on.

Eric Cartman

klaaaz wrote: »

What are you trying to imply here? It looks disturbing.

Every post you have replied to with regards the trans woman in the dochas centre has been trying to de-legitimise the trans status of that person, asking for details not available and muddying waters, youve done it before in threads about desmond (child drag queen) when the trans issue was raised.

I think everyone acknowledges that trans people are not all sex offenders or out to harm children, but what you seem to want to do is suggest that trans people who do offend or have an interest in children are somehow not legitimate trans people in order to try distance the trans community from the very real problem it contains.

Eric Cartman

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Man who identifies as ‘female’ asks city to approve LGBT pool party for ‘topless’ 12-year-olds, no parents allowed.


She'll be the sword the trans movement dies on.

If this wasnt the clown world we find ourselves in, that offender would have been quite rightly imprisoned in a male prison long ago.

Calhoun

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I think everyone acknowledges that trans people are not all sex offenders or out to harm children, but what you seem to want to do is suggest that trans people who do offend or have an interest in children are somehow not legitimate trans people in order to try distance the trans community from the very real problem it contains.

What makes it worse in my eyes is this type of deflection while also going on the attack about how vulnerable the community is really just makes it like like there is compliance when it comes to the community.

Its nearly like the catholic priests of old circling the wagons, doing anything but admitting that one of their own was in the wrong.

There needs to be no safe havens in society today.

MrFresh

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I dont doubt it, but they need the issue to exist before hyping it. Most trans stories that make any kind of news beyond social / lgbt centric outlets are about a trans woman expecting access/service to/from a space where the very idea of a man exposing his penis to the staff/patrons would be a criminal offence or incredibly distasteful at best and the demand by somebody that has sometimes only taken the step of 'identifying as a woman' verbally to be allowed expose their penis in that space because 'progressiveness'

You can always find an extreme story to hype opposition to any cause. It's a pretty messed up world out there. It's usually the more nuanced case that result in changes to law and public perception though.

vladmydad wrote: »

What you call anti trans, I call pro biology and good old fashioned facts.

Good for you.

klaaaz

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Man who identifies as ‘female’ asks city to approve LGBT pool party for ‘topless’ 12-year-olds, no parents allowed.


She'll be the sword the trans movement dies on.

Quoting a religious conservative website makes a mockery of your stance. However they quote Yanev yet again the super troll in the story. Roll on the right wing zealots to bash trans people from the actions of one loo-la.

MrFresh

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Man who identifies as ‘female’ asks city to approve LGBT pool party for ‘topless’ 12-year-olds, no parents allowed.


She'll be the sword the trans movement dies on.

Would this story be any less absurd if it was not a trans person making the request? her trans status is pretty irrelevant in this case isn't it?

Dante7

Calhoun wrote: »

You are just wrong, you don't like this paragon of all that is trans challenging your gender norm views. They just wanted to help those little kids out :P :P :P.

What is next will we actually start saying those who identify as minor attracted people (MAP) are just confused about their sexual orientation.

Being serious if anyone regardless of race, sexuality or creed shows any predatory behavior against anyone but more importantly children who are our most vulnerable we must condemn it.

Funny you should mention MAPs (Paedophiles). Twitter's T&C's allow these MAPs to have accounts and to post about their sexual preference of being sexually attracted to children, while 500+ people (mainly women), have been banned from Twitter for misgendering Yaniv.

This is definitely part of the problem. We just have to look at how these new gender rules are being used to silence women. Debate is being shut down on Twitter. Posts are deleted. People are given warnings and banned. I could say more, but I would be banned. As Glinner said, we tried to warn you about Yaniv, but you called us bigots.

Eric Cartman

MrFresh wrote: »

Would this story be any less absurd if it was not a trans person making the request? her trans status is pretty irrelevant in this case isn't it?

If a self identified straight male walked into a court to have a topless pool party with no parents for people aged 12 and up, their behaviour would be quite rightly criminally investigated.

Still waters

MrFresh wrote: »

Would this story be any less absurd if it was not a trans person making the request? her trans status is pretty irrelevant in this case isn't it?

So you see no problem with him having 12 year old girls to pool partys without their parents, interesting

MrFresh

Still waters wrote: »

So you see no problem with him having 12 year old girls to pool partys without their parents, interesting

That's a pathetic attempt to misrepresent my post.

klaaaz

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Every post you have replied to with regards the trans woman in the dochas centre has been trying to de-legitimise the trans status of that person, asking for details not available and muddying waters, youve done it before in threads about desmond (child drag queen) when the trans issue was raised.

I think everyone acknowledges that trans people are not all sex offenders or out to harm children, but what you seem to want to do is suggest that trans people who do offend or have an interest in children are somehow not legitimate trans people in order to try distance the trans community from the very real problem it contains.

Oh Eric, the defender of the American right in the likes of the antifa thread, we meet again.

There is scant details on the Irish case, in fact it was a Sunday World story ya know a red top tabloid. There is an active body of right wing posters here trying to label all trans people as like that lunatic Yanev and/or as sex offenders.

Desmond is not trans, he's a young drag performer many miles from here or maybe in your neighbourhood in New York?

Achasanai

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Man who identifies as ‘female’ asks city to approve LGBT pool party for ‘topless’ 12-year-olds, no parents allowed.


She'll be the sword the trans movement dies on.

If I was a conspiracy fan, I'd be thinking she was someone with serious issues with the whole trans thing who was trying to undermine the movement. Amazing that she hasn't been locked up for that sort of stuff.

Eric Cartman

MrFresh wrote: »

That's a pathetic attempt to misrepresent my post.

would you agree that there are people like yaniv who are brazenly and openly making predatory moves on children and using their trans gender identity as a cloak from prosecution and criticism ? Would you agree that trans activists have made the scenario in north america and online that it has become a space where trans people who happen to be predators are more able to perform in a predatory way without criticism ?

drunkmonkey

klaaaz wrote: »

Quoting a religious conservative website makes a mockery of your stance. However they quote Yanev yet again the super troll in the story. Roll on the right wing zealots to bash trans people from the actions of one loo-la.

LGBT people fought for her rights, she's now engaging them. This what you wanted not you've got it. What your problem. The reality of what's been created has come home to roost.
The only reason the mainstream media hasn't reported on this is it makes them look like clowns for supporting this warped agenda in the first place.

Dante7

Gender dysphoria piece on Newsnight on BBC2 now

drunkmonkey

Achasanai wrote: »

If I was a conspiracy fan, I'd be thinking she was someone with serious issues with the whole trans thing who was trying to undermine the movement. Amazing that she hasn't been locked up for that sort of stuff.

I've thought about that if you ever wanted to sneak in a Trojan horse she's it.
They can't lock her up as she's been given these rights by the state.

Eric Cartman

klaaaz wrote: »

Oh Eric, the defender of the American right in the likes of the antifa thread, we meet again.

Absolutely irrelevant to this discussion.

There is scant details on the Irish case, in fact it was a Sunday World story ya know a red top tabloid.

They still have editorial and legal standards and have to adhere to laws which prevent them from making up that somebody has been convicted 10 times for sexual assault, theres nothing inaccurate about that.

There is an active body of right wing posters here trying to label all trans people as like that lunatic Yanev and/or as sex offenders.

There is nobody in this thread or any other thread here trying to label all trans people as sex offenders, we have very good moderation here and warnings are usually issued about that kind of trolling and bans handed out pretty swiftly.

Desmond is not trans, he's a young drag performer many miles from here or maybe in your neighbourhood in New York?

I never said he was, iirc in that thread somebody raised the issue of an adult drag queen grooming kids , they identified as a woman and you were quick to say 'they werent really trans'

While most can acknowledge that not every trans person is a sex offender, can you acknowledge that there is an undertone of a minority of legitimate trans people using the label to excuse their predatory behaviour towards women and children.

Calhoun

Dante7 wrote: »

Funny you should mention MAPs (Paedophiles). Twitter's T&C's allow these MAPs to have accounts and to post about their sexual preference of being sexually attracted to children, while 500+ people (mainly women), have been banned from Twitter for misgendering Yaniv.

This is definitely part of the problem. We just have to look at how these new gender rules are being used to silence women. Debate is being shut down on Twitter. Posts are deleted. People are given warnings and banned. I could say more, but I would be banned. As Glinner said, we tried to warn you about Yaniv, but you called us bigots.

All stuff like this does is build opposition, if the MAP crowd get recognized as part of the LGBT+ which i think they wont then its game over.

For now though the issue at hand is how extra rights/privileges can be abused by minorities who now have some power. Definitely an US v Them scenario and is just a question of how long its allowed to continue for.

klaaaz

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Absolutely irrelevant to this discussion.

It's relevant when posters quote religious conservative websites to bash trans people.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

They still have editorial and legal standards and have to adhere to laws which prevent them from making up that somebody has been convicted 10 times for sexual assault, theres nothing inaccurate about that.

Did you write that with a straight face?

Eric Cartman wrote: »

There is nobody in this thread or any other thread here trying to label all trans people as sex offenders, we have very good moderation here and warnings are usually issued about that kind of trolling and bans handed out pretty swiftly.

Funny man Eric, there's a cohort of right wing posters jumping on the bandwagon to bash trans people as sexual predators.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I never said he was, iirc in that thread somebody raised the issue of an adult drag queen grooming kids , they identified as a woman and you were quick to say 'they werent really trans'

While most can acknowledge that not every trans person is a sex offender, can you acknowledge that there is an undertone of a minority of legitimate trans people using the label to excuse their predatory behaviour towards women and children.

Drag is not trans and despite your wishing, the vast vast majority of transgender people are not sex offenders. If one person claiming to be trans is a sex offender, throw the book at them just like any other non-trans person.

Annasopra

doylefe wrote: »

Hold up a second here, this person has a cock and balls and people are calling him a she? What's that about?

Not being transphobic

klaaaz

klaaaz wrote:

Funny man Eric, there's a cohort of right wing posters jumping on the bandwagon to bash trans people as sexual predators.

Where?