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Franz Von Peppercorn II

victor8600 wrote: »

Is that a threat? In any case, my position is known (to clarify -- transwomen are women regardless of genitalia, perverts are perverts regardless of their gender), I have nothing else to add here.

I did a search and that’s the first time you said that. It doesn’t solve much in this case.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

The threat of violence was both wrong in itself and unfortunate as it has diverted the topic to that rather than the thread.

Did she appear on the radio this morning btw.

notobtuse

Deleted User wrote: »

If a person willingly exposed their penis to my daughter, in a place where penises aren't expected to be attached to the anatomy of a person when they are naked (jesus, the hoops I have to go through in order not to be banned again), then I think I would err on the side of caution and forcibly eject the owner of said penis.

IMO, this is a prime example of the political correctness madness that has overtaken society and here. I pity future generations if it is to continue.

Glass fused light

kikilarue2 wrote: »

On a sidenote, do you think we discuss trans issues a disproportionate amount to the size of the problem? There's threads on here all the time with thousands of replies, whereas these issues only come up very occasionally in Ireland.

When was the last time you heard of a trans person who Self-IDs requesting to be treated as a biological female here?

Do I need to hear a court case to understand that this gender theory is infiltrating and damaging females as a group?

Being told by a racist that if women turn up at a Woman's march that's not acceptable to discuss our bodies or reproduction issues as its not inclusive?
Well sorry she may think that "model barbie" is the poster girl for trans girls and represents girls, but I don't.

Please look at the Posie Parker video and then tell me Im appropriating the word woman

And as for Alex Drummond.
I think most people can spot a wanker.
She can go back to playing mind games with men, she totally brings out the gender critical woman in me.

Glass fused light

bluewolf wrote: »

if this is actually accurate

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I traced it [women having sex with a woman with a penis] back to to the original website which I can't find cas google thinks I want to fact check on Wiki-type-what-you-want

Sir Oxman

victor8600 wrote: »

Explain this to me. I do not see how the threat of violence can be justified, but you know better probably.

Let's consider a situation.A transwoman goes to a shower after a gym workout, a 17-year old girl sees her his cock and balls, gets mildly absolutely shocked by the view and tell her father about it.

fixed that for you.

Calhoun

Seeing an article showing that a case has been raised by one of the girls.

https://www.thepostmillennial.com/exclusive-15-year-old-alleged-victim-of-jessica-yaniv-speaks-out/

am i bovvered

Naydy wrote: »

She is not someone representative of transgender people and should not be held up as such. I think it's awful that there will likely be an outpouring of ignorant comments towards transgender people in general from this.

Totally agree, but that is a common ‘trick’ in today’s politics and journalism.
Highlight (or at times create) a ridiculous left or right wing case to rile people up and create further division.
People fall for it all the time and it worked perfectly at the start of this thread.

Glass fused light

Danzy wrote: »

He wouldn't be where he is without it. 

Nor do they understand why he is backed, even by people who think he is a petulant child. 

He is the only option for those who are against globalism and the unfettered free market.

And he will not need to campaign as the pro drag queen children supporters will do this for him, as that 'war' will be fought in the children's section of the local libraries.


https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/laurenstrapagiel/desmond-is-amazing-child-drag-queen
and 
https://www.dailywire.com/news/42081/10-year-old-boy-dressed-drag-pictured-naked-amanda-prestigiacomo

Lead to articles like this
https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/22/public-library-deletes-pictures-drag-queens-fondling-children-story-hour/

The only danger to the "campaign" is if he actually makes any kind of comment at all. 

And all trans people and gay men who just want to live their lives like normal people will stuck out in no-mans/ no-peoples land.

skybox2014

klaaaz wrote: »

That elderly man is not trans in that story. Some hospitals still have single sex wards. The NHS actually still have that rule in Britain, trans people have been treated in the single sex wards and the world hasn't fallen in.



You have your point backwards, that's a trans man in the story.

I know the person was a trans man! the point still stands though.

The above point about mixed sex wards highlights the danger to women and girls of a mixed sex environment. Any male bodied person is a potential danger. It has nothing to do with being trans and everything to do with being male.

I wish the LGBT community and allies would show some concern against the Yanivs and Karen Whites of the world and help argue for extra third spaces for trans people, gender non-conforming people and those who don't mind using mixed sex services and facilities.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

am i bovvered wrote: »

Totally agree, but that is a common ‘trick’ in today’s politics and journalism.
Highlight (or at times create) a ridiculous left or right wing case to rile people up and create further division.
People fall for it all the time and it worked perfectly at the start of this thread.

This case wasn’t in fact reported for months.

It’s also not an extreme example of self identification or much of trans ideology, nor is it a total outlier nor is it the law of unintended consequences. It’s the inevitable result of a trans woman being a woman in law.

Glass fused light

ceadaoin. wrote: »

And what about the sex based rights of women which are completely negated by self id and are being denied on an increasing basis? To the point that it is now being debated whether they should be compelled to handle male genitalia, by law. And has resulted in women and children being abused, women losing scholarships because of males, and being pushed out of their own athletic competitions by males..Is that not "problematic" to you?

For me this case fundamentally shows the difference in the socialisation of females and males when it comes to the risk of rape and other forms of sexual assault.

It's the internalised subconscious and conscious way women process the danger and the risk assessment. ( microexpressions and/or  microaggression) 
Sit with your knees together so no one can see your vulva.
Cover your breasts once they develop, they are sex toys not for feeding babies. (KLM have just spent the last week getting their ass kicked on this one)
Etc
Ever heard a joked about picking up soap in a ladies prison?

Simple test head to the underwear department
In the men's pick the knickers/jocks you would not like to justify wearing  when produced in evidence as consent in a sexual assault case.
Do the same in the women's 

And for fans of Father Ted play spot the fannequin (models)

Glass fused light

skybox2014 wrote: »

I didn't realise that. I will have to go back and find the dail debates and read through the whole thing. I had never heard of this bill and the act was passed long before I, and I suspect many other people, knew about it. And I read the news/stay informed. Or at least I thought I did.

https://www.flac.ie/news/2018/06/08/a-story-of-great-human-proportions-lydia-foy-and-t/

https://www.flac.ie/publications/lydia-foy-and-the-struggle-for-transgender-rights/

skybox2014 wrote: »

I am so frustrated that Irish feminists didn't fight to protect women's and girl's spaces, sport and privacy.  Where were NWCI, all the Repeal people? Why did rights for Trans people come at the expense of women and girls?

Given the way Irish law confuses sex and gender, and given the barbershop case (Transman complained they were discriminated against beacuse they were refused service in a barber shop, and they won) I assume that a Yaniv case is completely possible in Ireland, and that Irish women don't actually have any sex-based rights like women have in the UK? 

Actually it's not a female problem it a male problem.

Its sold on the basis of males are "violent".

While females (as a group) can be equally verbal abusive they are slower to resort to physical acts due to the physical differences in the biological bodies of men and women.

Most feminist or women in general accept this because they have been taught it as a part of basic safe guarding and have the ability to see the difference puberty has on the male and female body.

So be nice and support the trans woman who is subject to male violence and wants to be a woman so badly that they will kill themselves if you don't agree.

Once you get that narration locked in, and assign the guilt and blame on women it gets easier.


And for me on the suicide issue.
If you have an acute medical issue I will support that you should be sectioned and receive urgent care. 
If its not acute you should receive the appropriate care.
If you use it as a threat, I will hand you your implement of choice, look you in the face and say have at it.

Glass fused light

klaaaz wrote: »

What's your point about that landmark decision? (if we're pointing to the same case)

Aaww, have we got to the kiss and make up stage now?

It's ok 
I know you did not mean what you said
I know you would never do or say anything to upset or hurt me.
I knows it was not your fault
I know that I should not have upset you
I know that it's all my fault

Let me make it up to you and look that up for you
It's the least I could do after upsetting you, and hurting your feelings 
I'm so sorry I promise that I will try harder in the future
I know that you will keep helping me to learn how to be nice.

Glass fused light

skybox2014 wrote: »

And in the mean time lobby groups are agitating for schools to put in mixed sex toilets (in primary and secondary) especially in the new ETs being built, with no risk assesment of what that could mean for girls.
It is only a matter of time before we see males going into amateur and then professional female sports. Applying for a gender cert is free and straightforward, there is no gatekeeping so I don't see why opportunists won't try and game the system and exploit it.
All of this happening in Canada, US and UK, no reason it won't happen here too.

From memory the mixed sex toilet are illegal under the current law (might only be Dep of Edu policy) that girls have a legal right to sex segration by 7/8?.

There is no need for a risk assessment parents of girls should object on the basis that girls the right to deal with periods in privacy.

And there is a massive rabbit hole that people can head down, specific to the New Age Trans community, if they want to argue on that one.

Glass fused light

Wibbs wrote: »

and in before the "well we have mixed sex toilets at home" stuff, yeah at home being the salient bit.

Fcuk that

I'll just keeping posting my bathroom post 

 over

 and over 

 and over 

on any thread they appear on

And if that don't work, I'm posting pics of the contents of rabbit hole

"Actually its not a women's problem, it's a men's problem"

No, it is most definitely a women's problem if it is their rights which are being infringed?

Can you point out any examples of men's rights being infringed? No? Not their problem.

And re. Trans rights, what activists need to remeber is that no rights are absolute. They must be balanced with the greater good of society, and others individual rights. Trans rights do not, and should not, automatically trump other rights to the detriment of others in society.

MrFresh

Glass fused light wrote: »

Fcuk that

I'll just keeping posting my bathroom post

over

and over

and over

on any thread they appear on

And if that don't work, I'm posting pics of the contents of rabbit hole

What are you talking about?

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote:

Can you point out any examples of men's rights being infringed? No? Not their problem.

Sounds a bit anti male there. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt though.

ceadaoin.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

"Actually its not a women's problem, it's a men's problem"

No, it is most definitely a women's problem if it is their rights which are being infringed?

Can you point out any examples of men's rights being infringed? No? Not their problem.

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I've yet to see trans men demanding access to men's spaces in such a forceful way, or commiting crimes and acts of voyeurism in male spaces, or demanding that gay men have to have sex with them. It's almost as if trans people retain the socialisation of their birth sex. Hmm

(Please note , I am not saying that all trans women are doing this but these things have happened)

Hilarious too that under the proposed self id laws in the UK, trans men (females) are exempted from inheriting titles after transition. No such exemptions applied to males access to female spaces or sports etc. So material reality was still acknowledged when it came to women potentially benefitting from the law. God forbid that could ever happen.

MrFresh

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I've yet to see trans men demanding access to men's spaces in such a forceful way, or commiting crimes and acts of voyeurism in male spaces, or demanding that gay men have to have sex with them. It's almost as if trans people retain the socialisation of their birth sex. Hmm

Do you think that's because they don't do it or because it isn't as much of an issue?

drunkmonkey

MrFresh wrote: »

Do you think that's because they don't do it or because it isn't as much of an issue?

If trans men are doing it they must secretly be fond of the auld Razzle Dazzle. He's correct and right.

Eric Cartman

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I've yet to see trans men demanding access to men's spaces in such a forceful way, or commiting crimes and acts of voyeurism in male spaces, or demanding that gay men have to have sex with them. It's almost as if trans people retain the socialisation of their birth sex. Hmm

(Please note , I am not saying that all trans women are doing this but these things have happened)

Hilarious too that under the proposed self id laws in the UK, trans men (females) are exempted from inheriting titles after transition. No such exemptions applied to males access to female spaces or sports etc. So material reality was still acknowledged when it came to women potentially benefitting from the law. God forbid that could ever happen.

Theres many studies indicate most 'trans women' identify as attracted to women (60% according to wikipedia, some studies more)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_sexuality and there are more transitions m2f than the other way round so it is a lot larger concern as when talking about the trans community as a whole, any rights / laws etc that grant access to spaces or partners, even applied equally are more likely to allow a biological man who is attracted to women access to womens spaces.

Glass fused light

skybox2014 wrote: »

I wonder will HSE revice their policy of referring to the Tavistock after the BBC Newsnight exposé of their lack of evidence and potentially unsafe practices. Hasn't anyone done anykind of review of the evidence?
Best I could find was the Heneghan & Jefferson 2019 blog post
https://blogs.bmj.com/bmjebmspotlight/2019/02/25/gender-affirming-hormone-in-children-and-adolescents-evidence-review/

https://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/format.cgi?doc=/ew/cases/EWHC/Fam/2016/2430.html

Court case for child who's mother decided the child was trans.
Judge noted the organisation started off as him and without interacting with the child ended up calling him, her.

The problem is that there is a very small population that need care and if someone with a fixed agenda ends up in control and can shut down all debate there will only be one option.
A service provider with a fixed political agenda is always going to be a problem
Add to this that it is a mix of mental Healt issues which will present a one size fits all policy will always be a problem.

ceadaoin.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Theres many studies indicate most 'trans women' identify as attracted to women (60% according to wikipedia, some studies more)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_sexuality and there are more transitions m2f than the other way round so it is a lot larger concern as when talking about the trans community as a whole, any rights / laws etc that grant access to spaces or partners, even applied equally are more likely to allow a biological man who is attracted to women access to womens spaces.

I don't think it should be framed in terms of "attraction". Lesbians (the old fashioned kind) are attracted to women and it would be rare for them to commit crimes in female spaces or to even make other women feel uncomfortable. Statistically, It's a male thing to do that. That's why opening up female spaces to any male who says he feels like a woman, or even having unisex spaces where people change/shower etc in general , is a bad idea.

But yes, it seems that the old school "transsexuals", who have been using women's spaces for years without any issues, tend to be completely different to the majority of the activists we see today loudly shouting for women to shut up/move over/die in a fire etc

Eric Cartman

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I don't think it should be framed in terms of "attraction". Lesbians (the old fashioned kind) are attracted to women and it would be rare for them to commit crimes in female spaces or to even make other women feel uncomfortable. Statistically, It's a male thing to do that. That's why opening up female spaces to any male who says he feels like a woman, or even having unisex spaces where people change etc in general , is a bad idea.

thats literally the point i was making. Putting somebody with a penis who is attracted to women in a space where women are in a state of undress is a terrible idea.

Glass fused light

Amalgam wrote: »

At least one prisoner in the UK (convicted rapist) is thought to be doing it just to wind up the authorities and use up time and resources, a big f__k y__, to the state.

Think I seen some thing about that
Named changed to something odd like My Lord so the prison guards have to appear to be subservient?

Glass fused light

Hector Savage wrote: »

I loved the bit where she said "I have my own gynecologist"

!!

How can the gynecologist keep a straight face ???

Now imagine the gyne spotting the tampon string

Glass fused light

Deleted User wrote: »

"Actually its not a women's problem, it's a men's problem"

No, it is most definitely a women's problem if it is their rights which are being infringed?

Can you point out any examples of men's rights being infringed? No? Not their problem.

And re. Trans rights, what activists need to remeber is that no rights are absolute. They must be balanced with the greater good of society, and others individual rights. Trans rights do not, and should not, automatically trump other rights to the detriment of others in society.

Its the fundamental idea of ladies be nice and let the trans woman hang out in the safety of the ladies.

It's males that are telling the women this.
and pushing the guilt of suicide etc

And yes it is men's problem when they keep stumm saying its nothing to do with us.

Just look to Scotland to see how women mobilised against self ID
How many men were visable in canvassing politicians etc

How about the gay men who are supporting the female genderist who are undermining the lesbians protesting at Pride?

Women's Rights will continue to be undermined if it's described as a woman only problem.

drunkmonkey

You can near the Niall Boylan interview here https://theburningtruth.us/2019/07/24/listen-trans-activist-forcing-women-to-wax-male-genitals-hangs-up-mid-interview-when-pressed-by-host/

Did it make an appearance on newstalk this morning..