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Glass fused light

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Glass fused light wrote: »

You said you had nothing to loose except your oncologist

I merely pointed out that the mainstream trans activists are looking for medical doctors to be sacked for wrongthink
Where do you think the radicals draw a line when people stand against them?

A) named a specific Doctor. So go google doxing

B)and asked for the whole team medical to be tested to ensure that they are willing to follow the medical pathway laid out in the attached document.

If you agree with early hormones and sex change meds and surgery what should be the lowest age it happens?

I was frickin’ joking! Christ on a bike.

Sorry, was not trying to have a go at you.
I missed the humor even with the emoji

mad muffin

14dMoney wrote: »

Lol

Should me updated to Thats a MA’AM baby :pac:

doylefe

doylefe wrote: »

"Jessica" on Newstalk right now. Sounds like a man to me.

Let them say whatever they like, but there's nowt wrong with your ears anyway.

Tokyo

Mod:

doylefe - breaching threadban = three day forum ban.

drunkmonkey

Is it honestly Boards policy to ban people over referring to this suspected pedo who's been harassing women and young girls if she's not referred to as a she.
The only thing you can take from that is Boards supports her position that she should have all the rights a woman has.

The mods seem to be split on this, is it for legal reasons?

The Specialist

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Is it honestly Boards policy to ban people over referring to this suspected pedo who's been harassing women and young girls if she's not referred to as a she.
The only thing you can take from that is Boards supports her position that she should have all the rights a woman has.

The mods seem to be split on this, is it for legal reasons?

I think the moderation on this thread is much too heavy handed, I’ve already been banned once from stating biological fact as it might offend trans. It does the trans community no good to silence discussion on this topic however hard it might become. How is any sort of acceptance going to be reached if every single discussion or uncomfortable statement is shouted down or removed because “transphobia”?

It's inconsistent to say the least. I am not questioning it though.

The Specialist

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's inconsistent to say the least. I am not questioning it though.

Oh I’m not questioning it either and I’m not taking a dig at any of the mods here, I just think it’s an emotive and complex discussion that needs to be allowed and allowed to progress freely (minus obvious trolling, hatred etc).

MrFresh

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Is it honestly Boards policy to ban people over referring to this suspected pedo who's been harassing women and young girls if she's not referred to as a she.
The only thing you can take from that is Boards supports her position that she should have all the rights a woman has.

The mods seem to be split on this, is it for legal reasons?

Deliberate misgendering has generally been recognised as harassment.

The Specialist wrote: »

I think the moderation on this thread is much too heavy handed, I’ve already been banned once from stating biological fact as it might offend trans. It does the trans community no good to silence discussion on this topic however hard it might become. How is any sort of acceptance going to be reached if every single discussion or uncomfortable statement is shouted down or removed because “transphobia”?

One poster advocated violence against trans people who invaded "safe spaces" and wasn't infracted so it can't be that heavy handed. It's like the immigration threads. Some people just make comments deliberately aimed at upsetting people and contribute nothing to the thread. This is just one of those threads that attracts them.

Still waters

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Is it honestly Boards policy to ban people over referring to this suspected pedo who's been harassing women and young girls if she's not referred to as a she.
The only thing you can take from that is Boards supports her position that she should have all the rights a woman has.

The mods seem to be split on this, is it for legal reasons?

I can't see how anyone can claim that he's a woman, he's a man with an extreme sexual predilection towards young girls on their period, all he's doing is hiding behind a transgender cloak of protection where he knows he'll be protected by fundamentalists and paedophiles like himself, if he gets away with this expect more to start acting like him, I'd have no problem seeing him locked up for simply posting what he has online, someone with a serious mental instability such as his shouldn't be walking the streets

Ill also add, i don't care about trans genders, i don't care what they get up to the same way i don't care what straight people get up to but this sleazy animal shouldn't be tolerated if he's trying to weasel his way into the trans community to get close to young girls

The Specialist

MrFresh wrote: »

Deliberate misgendering has generally been recognised as harassment.

If you believe the sky is yellow but in reality it is blue, is it harassment for me to tell you otherwise? I mean we can both stare up and I can pretend it’s yellow but the reality is it’s blue - all I’m doing by saying anything otherwise is playing along with your delusion and telling a blatant lie to myself about an unchangeable truth.

One poster advocated violence against trans people who invaded "safe spaces" and wasn't infracted so it can't be that heavy handed. It's like the immigration threads. Some people just make comments deliberately aimed at upsetting people and contribute nothing to the thread. This is just one of those threads that attracts them.

Read that post again because you missed the point he was making by a mile.

drunkmonkey

MrFresh wrote: »

Deliberate misgendering has generally been recognised as harassment.

It's not misgendering it's correctly identifying. It's built into the majority of us by default not by society but nature.

I put it to you it's the people complaining about all this are the ones guilty of harassment.

drunkmonkey

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It's not misgendering it's correctly identifying. It's built into the majority of us by default not by society but nature.

I put it to you it's the people complaining about all this are the ones guilty of harassment.

You could also put the argument forward that the people who are in possession of a penis and are calling themselves women are the ones who are deliberately misgendering.

MrFresh

The Specialist wrote: »

If you believe the sky is yellow but in reality it is blue, is it harassment for me to tell you otherwise? I mean we can both stare up and I can pretend it’s yellow but the reality is it’s blue - all I’m doing by saying anything otherwise is playing along with your delusion and telling a blatant lie to myself about an unchangeable truth.

You can tell yourself whatever you want. And if you do believe it is a delusion or trans people are mentally ill, what qualifies you to decide that "hard truths" are a proper way of addressing it? Why do you feel the need to feel that need? They aren't harming you. It's well documented that trans people have a very high rate of suicide due to difficulties they face. Why do you desire to add to those difficulties?

The Specialist wrote: »

Read that post again because you missed the point he was making by a mile.

It was pretty clear. He said he would sexually assault any of them that entered a safe space of his daughter.

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It's not misgendering it's correctly identifying. It's built into the majority of us by default not by society but nature.

I put it to you it's the people complaining about all this are the ones guilty of harassment.

Yes, that would be you. You're the one complaining about all this. Trans people just want to live their lives. You're the one taking personal exception to it.

MrFresh

MrFresh wrote: »

You can tell yourself whatever you want. And if you do believe it is a delusion or trans people are mentally ill, what qualifies you to decide that "hard truths" are a proper way of addressing it? Why do you feel the need to feel that need? They aren't harming you. It's well documented that trans people have a very high rate of suicide due to difficulties they face. Why do you desire to add to those difficulties?




It was pretty clear. He said he would sexually assault any of them that entered a safe space of his daughter.





Yes, that would be you. You're the one complaining about all this. Trans people just want to live their lives. You're the one taking personal exception to it.

There is a higher than normal suicide rate among people with schizophrenia. Would you advocate that people should just agree with manic and abnormal thoughts of schizophrenia so as not to add to their suicidal tendencies?

The person said that he would "shove a rainbow flagpole up the arse" of a transperson who would be in his daughters "safespace" i.e changing room etc.

Now if you chose to read into this literally, as seems to be your want, then yes, this would be an over-reaction. When taken contextually and in more of the common usage of "stick this up your hole" verbiage, you would see that this poster actually was saying that he would have no issue confronting some man with his penis out in the changing room that his daughter was in (the discussion around changing rooms was in full flow at that stage).

It's disingenuous to frame it as you have.

And finally, no, if trans people just wanted to live their lives, I doubt many would have a problem with that. It's when trans people expect, or demand, that they OTHER people, treat them as whatever sex they see fit, then that's where the problem lies.

I couldn't give a monkey what people class themselves as. It only becomes an issue when they demand recognition from others.

cdeb

Deleted User wrote: »

I couldn't give a monkey what people class themselves as. It only becomes an issue when they demand recognition from others.

This is it.

There are certain markers about you that are inarguable. Your gender - male/female - is one. It can be confirmed by various means. Your age is another. Your skin colour, your height, your fingerprints are all others. Your name and religion are things which can change.

A functioning society depends on certain base facts being agreed upon. We know what year it is and what day it is. We know what words mean - when I say "I don't like tomatoes", I don't mean "Give us a free pint". Base identifiers such as the above also mean certain things.

You can think you're a jellybean for all I care. But you're not a jellybean. If you start seriously demanding jellybean rights, then we can conclude you are more likely to have a mental disorder. Having a mental disorder invalidates your claim to be a jellybean. You are not a jellybean, and have to operate within normal societal rules and definitions for the good of society.

Otherwise you'll have teenagers suing because they identify as 70-year-olds who want access to a state pension. You'll have people identifying as 15-year-olds to get off child porn charges. You'll have people identifying as a 5'2" black person to get off a charge of a bank robbery where CCTV shows the criminal to be a white person 5'10" in height.

This all sounds ridiculous, but a similar case has already been tested in the courts and thrown out, with the judge correctly noting that it "would have a variety of undesirable legal and societal implications". But what's the difference between identifying as an age you're not and identifying as a gender you're not? It's the very question the person in that case put to the court.

Society needs base rules to operate functionally. Waking up in the morning and deciding that you're now a female is not one of those rules.

And that's before we get to the incalculable harm being done by this movement to kids being forced into taking puberty blockers, for example. Scientology doesn't affect me, but as a member of society, I would like it to be shut down because of the harm it does to other people. Same here.

drunkmonkey

MrFresh wrote: »

It was pretty clear. He said he would sexually assault any of them that entered a safe space of his daughter.

Yes, that would be you. You're the one complaining about all this. Trans people just want to live their lives. You're the one taking personal exception to it.

I would get not a smidge of sexual satisfaction from inserting said flag pole in said hole. It's not sexual assault.

Are you following the thread at all, people are complaining about a trans person wanting to interfere in people's lives. She has to be referred to as a she in this thread so she is trans in this safe trans space. She is fighting for rights trans people want. She's one of them that's why I'm more than happy to keep referring to her as a she. She wouldn't last long as a man as we know how to deal with her kind.

pappyodaniel

I've a family member who's working in a women only gym and they're after having a trans woman looking to join.
I told her to start looking for a new job because I'm pretty sure they'll lose a huge chunk of their members over this.

JustAThought

pappyodaniel wrote: »

I've a family member who's working in a women only gym and they're after having a trans woman looking to join.
I told her to start looking for a new job because I'm pretty sure they'll lose a huge chunk of their members over this.

Yes they will. Same in all the clubs and gyms that think shared xhanging rooms and toilets and showers are a great idea. Only on paper - and not bank headed paper .

splinter65

MrFresh wrote: »

You can tell yourself whatever you want. And if you do believe it is a delusion or trans people are mentally ill, what qualifies you to decide that "hard truths" are a proper way of addressing it? Why do you feel the need to feel that need? They aren't harming you. It's well documented that trans people have a very high rate of suicide due to difficulties they face. Why do you desire to add to those difficulties?




It was pretty clear. He said he would sexually assault any of them that entered a safe space of his daughter.





Yes, that would be you. You're the one complaining about all this. Trans people just want to live their lives. You're the one taking personal exception to it.

I’m mystified by this approach to mental illness.
When we encounter other episodes of humans displaying signs of being mentally ill we don’t generally go along with it.
We don’t accommodate it in this way by passing laws which say, basically, that if I tell you that I am the reincarnation of Queen Victoria then you must refer to me at all times as “Your Majesty” and in fact if you insist on calling me Fred instead that You may be put to prison.
We try to get mental health help for people who think that the radio is sending them messages from aliens or that they are reincarnations of dead celebrities but I must agree with your self diagnosis that you are in fact a woman trapped in a mans body. Why?!?
How do you think a father should react if he finds his young daughter alone in a bathroom with someone who has a penis and testicles but is wearing a dress and lipstick? Can you see how a father might see this as a disguise? Really!!

People who think they will be doing the world a favor if they kill their whole family and themselves are just trying to live their live too, but if they announce their intention we don’t just let them get on with it, do we?

pappyodaniel

JustAThought wrote: »

Yes they will. Same in all the clubs and gyms that think shared xhanging rooms and toilets and showers are a great idea. Only on paper - and not bank headed paper .

A lot of the women see these type of gyms as a safe space. Some have had bad past experiences with men, some come from a very traditional background (of the Muslim faith mainly) and some simply just don't feel confident working out in front of men so they have specifically chosen a women only gym.

It's a joke that one person has the power to take this away and force a business to shut it's doors.

ceadaoin.

MrFresh wrote: »

You can tell yourself whatever you want. And if you do believe it is a delusion or trans people are mentally ill, what qualifies you to decide that "hard truths" are a proper way of addressing it? Why do you feel the need to feel that need? They aren't harming you. It's well documented that trans people have a very high rate of suicide due to difficulties they face. Why do you desire to add to those difficulties?




It was pretty clear. He said he would sexually assault any of them that entered a safe space of his daughter.





Yes, that would be you. You're the one complaining about all this. Trans people just want to live their lives. You're the one taking personal exception to it.

This person was going by the name Jonathan until not that long ago, certainly while all this was going on. Kind of strange you choose to focus on "misgendering" of this person who is behaving exactly like a predatory male. Any thoughts on the issue at hand?

Glass fused light

MrFresh wrote: »

They aren't harming you. It's well documented that trans people have a very high rate of suicide due to difficulties they face.

Well IMO the trans ideology is harming women.
So if you want to pull a guilt card back it up with proof
What are the suicide rates and where is the data from

Glass fused light

Double post

MrFresh

Deleted User wrote: »

There is a higher than normal suicide rate among people with schizophrenia. Would you advocate that people should just agree with manic and abnormal thoughts of schizophrenia so as not to add to their suicidal tendencies?

I'm not a psychiatrist.

Deleted User wrote: »

The person said that he would "shove a rainbow flagpole up the arse" of a transperson who would be in his daughters "safespace" i.e changing room etc.


Now if you chose to read into this literally, as seems to be your want, then yes, this would be an over-reaction. When taken contextually and in more of the common usage of "stick this up your hole" verbiage, you would see that this poster actually was saying that he would have no issue confronting some man with his penis out in the changing room that his daughter was in (the discussion around changing rooms was in full flow at that stage).

It's disingenuous to frame it as you have.

It's disingenuous for you to try and minimise his comment, especially when the only issue he took was with the sexual part and not the assault part.

Deleted User wrote: »

And finally, no, if trans people just wanted to live their lives, I doubt many would have a problem with that. It's when trans people expect, or demand, that they OTHER people, treat them as whatever sex they see fit, then that's where the problem lies.

I couldn't give a monkey what people class themselves as. It only becomes an issue when they demand recognition from others.

But obviously you do give a monkey about it. You have an issue with people looking at the person in question as a woman. You have an issue with trans women being admitted to places for biological women. You have an issue with self identification. Seems you have a lot of issues with trans people just going about their daily lives.

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I would get not a smidge of sexual satisfaction from inserting said flag pole in said hole. It's not sexual assault.

Sexual assault doesn't depend on whether the attacker gets sexual gratification. You used the imagery of anally raping a person with an implement, a prospect that many trans people do actually fear being subjected to.

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Are you following the thread at all, people are complaining about a trans person wanting to interfere in people's lives. She has to be referred to as a she in this thread so she is trans in this safe trans space. She is fighting for rights trans people want. She's one of them that's why I'm more than happy to keep referring to her as a she. She wouldn't last long as a man as we know how to deal with her kind.

What are you talking about?

splinter65 wrote: »

I’m mystified by this approach to mental illness.
When we encounter other episodes of humans displaying signs of being mentally ill we don’t generally go along with it.
We don’t accommodate it in this way by passing laws which say, basically, that if I tell you that I am the reincarnation of Queen Victoria then you must refer to me at all times as “Your Majesty” and in fact if you insist on calling me Fred instead that You may be put to prison.
We try to get mental health help for people who think that the radio is sending them messages from aliens or that they are reincarnations of dead celebrities but I must agree with your self diagnosis that you are in fact a woman trapped in a mans body. Why?!?
How do you think a father should react if he finds his young daughter alone in a bathroom with someone who has a penis and testicles but is wearing a dress and lipstick? Can you see how a father might see this as a disguise? Really!!

People who think they will be doing the world a favor if they kill their whole family and themselves are just trying to live their live too, but if they announce their intention we don’t just let them get on with it, do we?

Being trans is not a mental illness though. And being trans in the presence of a minor is not a heinous offence.

ceadaoin. wrote: »

This person was going by the name Jonathan until not that long ago, certainly while all this was going on. Kind of strange you choose to focus on "misgendering" of this person who is behaving exactly like a predatory male. Any thoughts on the issue at hand?

Yeah, I've no issue referring to a person by whatever they prefer. It doesn't cost me anything.

cdeb

MrFresh wrote: »

Being trans is not a mental illness though. And being trans in the presence of a minor is not a heinous offence.

Isn't it?

There's strong links with autism. I've shown suggested rates of up to 30%.

I think it may be time to at least look into an uncomfortable reality here.

MrFresh

cdeb wrote: »

Isn't it?

There's strong links with autism. I've shown suggested rates of up to 30%.

I think it may be time to at least look into an uncomfortable reality here.

Autism is also not a mental illness.

The Specialist

"MrFresh&#8221 wrote:

Being trans is not a mental illness though. And being trans in the presence of a minor is not a heinous offence.

It was classified as such until very recently, and should have stayed as that. Mental illness requires help, not progressive cheerleaders trying to normalise it.

As for being in the presence of a minor, I would say a fella with his cock and balls hanging out in front of a child is a serious offence and one which could rightly get that person hurt, regardless of what they identify as.

MrFresh

MrFresh wrote:

I'm not a psychiatrist.

Are you an expert on transgenderism? If not, how come you can comment on that but can't answer my question?

MrFresh wrote:

But obviously you do give a monkey about it. You have an issue with people looking at the person in question as a woman. You have an issue with trans women being admitted to places for biological women. You have an issue with self identification. Seems you have a lot of issues with trans people just going about their daily lives.

Nope. Read what I said again. I couldn't give a monkeys what the choose to call themselves. I stand by that.

I agree, I do have an issue with trans women being admitted to places for biological women. I do have an issue with self identification in so far as I don't think it should be recognised as fact.

If it seems that I have issues with trans people going about their daily lives then so be it. Once their life doesn't require me to go along with their belief, I have no issue.

MrFresh wrote:

Yeah, I've no issue referring to a person by whatever they prefer. It doesn't cost me anything.

Is that just for transgenderism or if someone wanted to be addressed as "your highness" would you do that. What if I wanted to be referred to as "sugar daddy". Would you?

If not, then why is it only transgenderism you do it for? I hate to use the term, but it smacks of virtue signalling.

MrFresh

The Specialist wrote: »

It was classified as such until very recently, and we have still haven’t got a logical explanation of why it was removed as such.

As for being in the presence of a minor, I would say a fella with his cock and balls hanging out in front of a child is a serious offence and one which could rightly get that person hurt, regardless of what they identify as.

Why would they have their cock and balls hanging out? Again, most trans people just want to go along with their lives. They don't want to draw attention to themselves. Especially when you have people like drunkmonkey looking to viciously attack them if they do.