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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


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    MrFresh wrote:
    All ye were asked was to refer to the person in question as she. That's it. Are ye that offended by the very notion of transgenderism that ye will bow out of a conversation rather than make that one concession?

    This will be my last post on the matter.

    I'm not offended by transgenderism. I'm offended that when I am referring to a biological male as a "he", I am told that I am not using correct pronouns. "She" is not the correct pronoun for a biological male (i.e. man)

    That is not a concession I am willing to make.

    When I refer to a person and use pronouns, I am referring to their biological sex, not their made up gender.

    Anyway, have at it lads (oops sorry, lads or ladies or otherkin).

    Unsubscribed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭Nermal


    He’s a man. Please ban me from this sewer of a thread, thanks.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,260 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    mike_ie wrote: »
    Mod: We're getting a lot of reports about the misgendering, deliberate or otherwise, of Jessica Yaniv.

    Whatever people's thoughts on the case at hand, how this person chooses to identify is their choice alone. Jessica Yaniv, whatever you might think of her actions elsewhere, chooses to identify as male-to-female transgender. Discuss the person's actions all you want, but from here on in, use the correct pronouns.
    Post reported, thread unsubscribed, complaint taken to Moderator forum.

    Absolutely not acceptable that a mod demands that saying black is white is a base criterion for partaking in a debate on this matter.

    Cisphobe.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,168 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    There's a worrying orthodoxy spreading into this subject, where a minority of not the full shilling/loud/fetishistic individuals are hijacking the narrative and it really doesn't help the genuine cases, because they get lumped in with the loopers.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    cdeb wrote: »
    mike_ie wrote: »
    Mod: We're getting a lot of reports about the misgendering, deliberate or otherwise, of Jessica Yaniv.

    Whatever people's thoughts on the case at hand, how this person chooses to identify is their choice alone. Jessica Yaniv, whatever you might think of her actions elsewhere, chooses to identify as male-to-female transgender. Discuss the person's actions all you want, but from here on in, use the correct pronouns.
    Post reported, thread unsubscribed, complaint taken to Moderator forum.

    Absolutely not acceptable that a mod demands that saying black is white is a base criterion for partaking in a debate on this matter.

    Cisphobe.

    Thank you. It's not like people are throwing out the N word.
    Is there any other scenario where labelling one group is fine (men=he) but labelling a different group with the same label cops a ban?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    Wibbs wrote: »
    There's a worrying orthodoxy spreading into this subject, where a minority of not the full shilling/loud/fetishistic individuals are hijacking the narrative and it really doesn't help the genuine cases, because they get lumped in with the loopers.

    ..also wanting to influence/dictate how the education system delivers information relating to transgender issues, at the expense of exasperated parents and the majority of the population.

    Melt people's heads, but do it on your own time, or wait till your target audience is 16+.

    Sikh and Muslim populations will not accept this in the long run, particularly the pressure to teach, 'in a certain manner' within the education system (UK at the moment, for instance) great way to marginalise parts of society that already feel marginalised.

    If you don't respect, or at the very minimum, make any effort to listen to the community, LGBT people living in those parts of the UK will have to put up with very very unpleasant and polarised communities. Good luck with that.

    Courtesy of the BBC, 26 July, 2019.

    A predominantly Muslim population area of Birmingham.

    The government put "extreme pressure" on a school to stop lessons on LGBT relationships, a chief executive said.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-49110151

    I feel very sorry for the Headmistress.

    ---

    Jessica Yaniv is a horrible horrible person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,325 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    mike_ie wrote: »
    Mod: We're getting a lot of reports about the misgendering, deliberate or otherwise, of Jessica Yaniv.

    Whatever people's thoughts on the case at hand, how this person chooses to identify is their choice alone. Jessica Yaniv, whatever you might think of her actions elsewhere, chooses to identify as male-to-female transgender. Discuss the person's actions all you want, but from here on in, use the correct pronouns.

    Your a F&F mod, misgendering animals is abuse as animals can be trans. Are you really going to start pulling up lads if one of them claims there bullock is trans and the others start misgendering it.
    This is nonsense and you know it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,917 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Given that the name of the this forum includes IMHO as part of its name...

    Threatening posters with sanction for expressing just that, is a mod action too far IMHO!

    There is a worrying rush towards an orthodoxy here that is at odds with the scientific evidence, unless of course one considers the social sciences evidential rather than just verbose opinion.

    I haven't posted on this thread previously, but have read it regularly.
    I won't be anymore I suppose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    mike_ie wrote: »
    Mod: We're getting a lot of reports about the misgendering, deliberate or otherwise, of Jessica Yaniv.

    Whatever people's thoughts on the case at hand, how this person chooses to identify is their choice alone. Jessica Yaniv, whatever you might think of her actions elsewhere, chooses to identify as male-to-female transgender. Discuss the person's actions all you want, but from here on in, use the correct pronouns.

    Jessica Yaniv is a man and I’m appalled that boards.ie moderation considers it appropriate to force contributors to admit otherwise despite their opinion and biological fact.

    Ban me and allow the delusion continue. I won’t be part of any discussion that discourages fact to appease the likes of Mr Yaniv.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    I’m out too, **** that. I refuse to be told by anyone how I should speak or that I must use special pronouns for a man in a dress. No way.

    And to whoever complained about “misgendering” - you’re doing no favors for the trans cause at all. Enjoy your shallow victory on the internet.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If the world now has the option of using their own pronouns, and demanding that others use them or face sanction I'm going to use the following pronouns :

    Her majesty / her grace

    You may not use my name. Just my pronouns. You have been warned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,325 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    If the world now has the option of using their own pronouns, and demanding that others use them or face sanction I'm going to use the following pronouns :

    Her majesty / her grace

    You may not use my name. Just my pronouns. You have been warned.

    Post reported.

    I've decided to be non binary this morning and you've offended me with your use of gender based pronouns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,590 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    bluewolf wrote: »
    How does one "act like a woman"

    By not having balls and a penis would be a start.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    Misgendering is nonsense. What they're basically doing is using the pronoun attached to the sex, not the gender. This is offensive for some reason?
    For the longest time they were interchangeable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    Misgendering is nonsense. What they're basically doing is using the pronoun attached to the sex, not the gender. This is offensive for some reason?
    For the longest time they were interchangeable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    The guy is a creep who gets his kicks trying to intimidate poor women trying to make a living and more seriously has an unhealthy interest in young girls. The police should have been banging on his door a long time ago and taking away his PC for investigation. Referring to this creep as she is madness personified.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    Of all the threads there have been on transgender topics, this is the person that you set a precedent on? Seriously? A perverted, litigious, nasty individual with an unhealthy interest in young girls.
    F*cking wow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭petros1980


    mike_ie wrote: »
    Mod: We're getting a lot of reports about the misgendering, deliberate or otherwise, of Jessica Yaniv.

    Whatever people's thoughts on the case at hand, how this person chooses to identify is their choice alone. Jessica Yaniv, whatever you might think of her actions elsewhere, chooses to identify as male-to-female transgender. Discuss the person's actions all you want, but from here on in, use the correct pronouns.

    Ah fukc off with that ****e. Absolute bollocks. sad state of affairs with moderation like this. Ban away


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 skybox2014


    I would encourage you all to stay and keep talking. This topic rarely gets discussed frankly in Irish social media circles. Have a look at Irish woke Twitter accounts and you can see the "cis" Irish Twits patrolling the Irish conversation looking for people to screem 'transphobe' at.

    Schools are well on their way to teaching gender ideololgy as the norm and strating down the mixed sex toilets route. Irish institutions are been captured by gender ideology - education, governemnt departments, unions, universities.

    THe Irish Gender Recognition act was introduced without any real debate and I know there is genuine unease among many women (everyday types, not the online woke variety) who are concerned that it is only a matter of time before they encounter a legally entitled male in their local gym or swimming pool changing room - a male who says they are a women, but looks male to everyone, posing the exact same threat as any other male. Or that these new 'women's professorships' that have been set up for women will be taken by a male declaring they are a woman, or Parkrun and sports start accepting males who declare they are females.

    Remember the Irish GRA doesn't require any medical transition of any sort, males with a GR cert are still male. There is no reason why we coudn't have a Yaniv case in Ireland. ANd the Mod threat to force everyone to adhere to someone elses pronound demands is the thin end of the wedge. We need to keep talking about this issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Faith+1


    petros1980 wrote: »
    Ah fukc off with that ****e. Absolute bollocks. sad state of affairs with moderation like this. Ban away

    Lol


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    When the pronoun the pedo prefers to use for the pedo is somehow more important than the fact the pedo is a pedo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭ingalway


    'Jessica' deliberately used the original name of Jonathan when s/he rang a waxing salon to book a waxing appointment. It was not until the end of the conversation he came out to them as a trans woman. It's on his conversation with Sean Moncrieff. So it's ok for him/her to use it to entrap people but not for anyone else to 'dead name' him/her?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    biko wrote: »
    When the pronoun the pedo prefers to use for the pedo is somehow more important than the fact the pedo is a pedo.

    Yaniv, without the gender issues, as an Irish 'male', would be jailed for the screen grabs (captured by a child) that are surfacing in the last few days.

    Exclusively contacting children under 15 and sending unwanted and decrepid questions.

    Someone was just before the courts here in Dublin for exactly the same thing and has been sent to prison for a few years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    Of all the threads there have been on transgender topics, this is the person that you set a precedent on? Seriously? A perverted, litigious, nasty individual with an unhealthy interest in young girls.
    F*cking wow.

    It's only because this person is all the things you say that this thread wasn't locked on page 1.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    biko wrote: »
    When the pronoun the pedo prefers to use for the pedo is somehow more important than the fact the pedo is a pedo.


    Except it isn't. Mike clearly said to discuss her actions all you want but just refer to her as a woman as that is what she identifies as. That's it. Simply refer to her as a woman. Talk about her disgusting fantasies, her behaviour towards kids, her case, even her genitalia all you want, just refer to her as a woman while doing so. But what the last two pages of tantrums show is that the very idea of referring to a bio born man as a woman so enrages some people they would rather be banned than do that one small thing. And some people wonder why trans people feel harassed?


  • Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MrFresh wrote: »
    Except it isn't. Mike clearly said to discuss her actions all you want but just refer to her as a woman as that is what she identifies as. That's it. Simply refer to her as a woman. Talk about her disgusting fantasies, her behaviour towards kids, her case, even her genitalia all you want, just refer to her as a woman while doing so. But what the last two pages of tantrums show is that the very idea of referring to a bio born man as a woman so enrages some people they would rather be banned than do that one small thing. And some people wonder why trans people feel harassed?

    He is a man.

    It's that simple. The rest is pandering to some people with ridiculous notions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    JayZeus wrote: »
    He is a man.

    It's that simple. The rest is pandering to some people with ridiculous notions.


    And that same reasoning has been used to suppress other minorities in the past too. better get with the times folks because the future is only going to get more complicated.


  • Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭petros1980


    MrFresh wrote: »
    Except it isn't. Mike clearly said to discuss her actions all you want but just refer to her as a woman as that is what she identifies as. That's it. Simply refer to her as a woman. Talk about her disgusting fantasies, her behaviour towards kids, her case, even her genitalia all you want, just refer to her as a woman while doing so. But what the last two pages of tantrums show is that the very idea of referring to a bio born man as a woman so enrages some people they would rather be banned than do that one small thing. And some people wonder why trans people feel harassed?

    Why do we have to do that if our opinion is that he's a man....

    I'm all in favour of trans people taking on whatever identity they want and if requested will happily address them by their preferred pronoun.

    But I'm not addressing this person here. I'm engaging in a discussion on an internet forum.

    I therefore assert my right to state my opinion as do others......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Are you following the discussion? We are talking about trans in changing rooms with young children, particularly young girls. And you are being very disingenuous in your comments about drunkmonkey but it’s to be expected from the likes of you - pick a point and then twist it until you can beat that person with it repeatedly. It won’t work here since most of us know exactly what point that poster was making but it’s lost on you.




    ^This
    That's what their side of the argument consists of - leave out the actual facts, deflect, cry somethingaphobe. That's if they are not crying to universities, RTE, BOARDS.IE et al and getting the other side of the debate banned.



    The fact this poster completely ignored the premise of intact men being naked in womens changing rooms/showers is proof of it.



    I notice none of them ever have any smidgen of concern for actual womens rights and spaces.


    It's always women that have to move aside.


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  • Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MrFresh wrote: »
    And that same reasoning has been used to suppress other minorities in the past too. better get with the times folks because the future is only going to get more complicated.

    Not my future. I know what makes a man a man, what makes a woman a woman. The genitalia you’re born with defines this. The pronouns you elect to use to describe yourself are up to you and I can’t stop you doing so. But I’m going to call a man a man and a woman a woman. And I know the difference. You can’t force me to accept something I know to be untrue as being the truth.


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