Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2019/2020

bucketybuck

Deleted User wrote: »

Neville is such an apologist for the club recently he is sickening to listen to now

It is actually remarkable the extent to which Neville twists himself in knots trying to avoid criticising his mate. And Keane did it as well, which surprised me a little.

I can see a very bad result coming today, dropping points to this Newcastle side would be a disgraceful result but I just can't see any sign that United are going to play any differently than they have all season.

BDI

bmcc10 wrote: »

Ashley Youngs highlights perhaps. Captain, Leader, Legend.

Trying to start a fight during every pre season friendly this year.

BDI

United will smash Newcastle today. Bookmark
It.

Lord TSC

Deleted User wrote: »

Neville is such an apologist for the club recently he is sickening to listen to now

On similar note, it’s amazing how quiet Paul Scholes has gotten in recent times. Couldn’t go a day without moaning about Jose’s United, but nowhere to be seen now that Ole is in charge....

Rayne Wooney

We might be a mid table club but losing to Newcastle today is just not imaginable.

At that point the question of whether Ole should be kept or not doesn’t exist anymore, because we will be in a genuine relegation battle if we can’t get something out of today.

I’m going with a 1-0 with Greenwood or Rashford on the scoresheet, and early lead which we will defend for our lives

StringerBell

BDI wrote: »

United will smash Newcastle today. Bookmark
It.

Bet they won't.

Bookmark.

bucketybuck

bucketybuck wrote: »

It is actually remarkable the extent to which Neville twists himself in knots trying to avoid criticising his mate. And Keane did it as well, which surprised me a little.

I can see a very bad result coming today, dropping points to this Newcastle side would be a disgraceful result but I just can't see any sign that United are going to play any differently than they have all season.

He really is a joke, ya i had wondered about keane but maybe he finds it easier to criticise players due to him being a great player and not managers, that or he was told to clean up his act pr wise.

While Newcastle are crap im half expecting a loss today myself another **** gsme no matter the result

StringerBell

StringerBell wrote: »

Bet they won't.

Bookmark.

Screenshot it

tinofapples

Lord TSC wrote: »

On similar note, it’s amazing how quiet Paul Scholes has gotten in recent times. Couldn’t go a day without moaning about Jose’s United, but nowhere to be seen now that Ole is in charge....

Fact, can't bring himself to be critical of an old friend. Ole was never the man for the job and never will be. Who is, God knows. I wholeheartedly agree with those that say you can't keep sacking managers and that is why the director is needed badly.

kerplun k

noodler wrote: »

What planet are you on?

There's borderline outrage about the penalty being given

Same one as you friend. You know it’s true.. and that was never a penalty.

grames_bond

The game today of ' who can play worse' is actually difficult to call which is incredible! Both teams are just shocking right now!

United vs United
Clash of the ShÍte-uns

Liam O

tinofapples wrote: »

Fact, can't bring himself to be critical of an old friend. Ole was never the man for the job and never will be. Who is, God knows. I wholeheartedly agree with those that say you can't keep sacking managers and that is why the director is needed badly.

Ole had gotten them playing well and was showing some interesting tactical ideas as well as man management. As seems to happen, the mess was made in the Summer. Could even have done with Welbeck coming back. I refuse to believe that the Summer went nearly to plan.

People seem to criticise no matter what. José calls out the board-bad. Ole is positive about the situation and tries to make do-bad. The squad is about 3 attacking players short and every other team United are supposed to be competing with and even the ones below have better players in attack.

Sure look at Wesley for Villa and Haller for West Ham who have both started well. Are United too good for these guys? There have been no smart signings in years. It appears as though a player has to be shoved down the throat of the club for them to consider them. That's what's led to big money, big name signings over building a balanced squad. They're now locked on to young and British. Ignoring any kind of evolution of the squad.

Headshot

I suspect todays game will be torture to watch and will make the AZ game look like the game of the century.

I'll go for 0-0

xtal191

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/1180852734087647236

https://twitter.com/red_cafe/status/1180853136547893248

Mr.Crinklewood

ankles wrote: »

Me then

Why aren't you in Newcastle?

S.M.B.

Thought Andreas wasn't in the squad.

Where's Lindelof?

Ninthlife

I cannot wait for the day that its not possible for Ashley Young to be included in a starting XI

Headshot

xtal191 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/1180852734087647236

https://twitter.com/red_cafe/status/1180853136547893248

What an awful 1st team. It's not even good enough for top 10

Ninthlife

Headshot wrote: »

What an awful 1st team. It's not even good enough for top 10

It looks like a team thatcwould get an early round of the FA Cup to give them game time..

Lindleof injured? Wan Bissaka still ill?

Rossi IRL

Newcastle playing a 541 aswell...... We have no chance

Liam O

Liam O wrote: »

Ole had gotten them playing well and was showing some interesting tactical ideas as well as man management. As seems to happen, the mess was made in the Summer. Could even have done with Welbeck coming back. I refuse to believe that the Summer went nearly to plan.

People seem to criticise no matter what. José calls out the board-bad. Ole is positive about the situation and tries to make do-bad. The squad is about 3 attacking players short and every other team United are supposed to be competing with and even the ones below have better players in attack.

Sure look at Wesley for Villa and Haller for West Ham who have both started well. Are United too good for these guys? There have been no smart signings in years. It appears as though a player has to be shoved down the throat of the club for them to consider them. That's what's led to big money, big name signings over building a balanced squad. They're now locked on to young and British. Ignoring any kind of evolution of the squad.

Did you forget the months of February, March, April and May?
The tactical deficiencies were evident months before the summer started. Not related to transfer business. Ole is the manager. The mess started then.

We all know the summer transfer window was an embarrassing mess but this is also the issues we know and have had to deal with for years at the club at board level.

The same tactical deficiencies have now followed through to this season.

BDI

That’s probably the worst competitive United starting 11 I’ve ever seen.

Ole is not the problem here.

Ninthlife

Sean Longstaff is joined in midfield by his brother Matty.....watch how they suddenly have the game of their lives along with Dubravka in goal

LuckyGent88

One of the worst united line ups in recent memory. Have lost all faith and confidence in the club from the top down. Just a shambles.

I genuinely think if we lose this we will be battling relegation this year alongside the fact Liverpool will be winning the league

J. Marston

That's a line-up that would get relegated.

beno619

Liam O wrote: »

Ole had gotten them playing well and was showing some interesting tactical ideas as well as man management.

I really think the early results cloud people’s judgement bar a bounce which saw some pressing he never actually had them playing that well apart for one or two games against cannon fodder in January.

What are the interesting tactical ideas ?

I wouldn’t call forcing our best striker out of the club great man management either. In fact it should have been really easy to keep 3 forwards happy given who he is.

Headshot

Headshot wrote: »

What an awful 1st team. It's not even good enough for top 10

The squad in general is our worst that I can remember in the PL era.

On the bright side - Bournemouth are losing at the moment, with a bit of luck today we could shoot up to the lofty heights of 7th place for the international break. Pretty soon, Europa qualification should be in our own hands. Phew.

S.M.B.

There would have been often times over years that our starting XI would look pretty bad on paper when we're missing 6 first team players.

The worrying thing for United at the moment is the results and performances when this isn't the case.

Hopefully there is enough there to get 3 points.

Is this the new one?

Ole didn't want rid of Lukaku
Ole didn't want rid of Herrera
Ole didn't want rid of Sanchez
Ole didn't want rid of Fellani

It was all the board?
It's the boards fault for not replacing them I'd say. But I doubt they made the push to shove the above out the door in the first place.

More evidence to suggest Ole thought his squad is much better than it actually is. His risk, same with the Rashford / Martial one.

No wonder the starting 11 is muck

Mantis Toboggan

Fcukit City 1 down.

Mantis Toboggan

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Fcukit City 1 down.

Let it go lads and suck it up
Liverpool will win the league
And maybe then it will send fans over the edge and get them to take action at the grounds

bmcc10

Ninthlife wrote: »

Sean Longstaff is joined in midfield by his brother Matty.....watch how they suddenly have the game of their lives along with Dubravka in goal

He can have a shocker if he wants we'll be lucky to muster up a shot on him

Will I Am Not

Ninthlife wrote: »

Sean Longstaff is joined in midfield by his brother Matty.....watch how they suddenly have the game of their lives along with Dubravka in goal

If the last few games are anything to go by, Dubravka will have f*ck all to do.

Mantis Toboggan

We seem to have the biggest injury list in the league. No fear of them not turning up collect their wages though!

How many fecking injuries do we have?

Martial has been out about 6 weeks with something that was onlt meant to be 1 or 2

beno619

BDI wrote: »

That’s probably the worst competitive United starting 11 I’ve ever seen.

Ole is not the problem here.

Who engineered and sanctioned the departures of Lukaku and Alexis respectively ?

S.M.B.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

How many fecking injuries do we have?

Martial has been out about 6 weeks with something that was onlt meant to be 1 or 2

I'd consider Shaw, Lindelof, AWB, Pogba, Martial and Lingard all to be first teamers and all missing today.

wanderer100

Ah here just give em the title already Fcuking Wolves

That lineup is so depressing. Not looking forward to this one at all

S.M.B.

S.M.B. wrote: »

I'd consider Shaw, Lindelof, AWB, Pogba, Martial and Lingard all to be first teamers and all missing today.

Thats kind of insane tbf, something has to be wrong at the club over the fitness training

S.M.B.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Thats kind of insane tbf, something has to be wrong at the club over the fitness training

Yeah, to me it's not just bad luck. It has to be another area of the club that's not at a level on a par with the world, or even the UKs best.

I'd say there are so many elements of our club that are simply bang average at the moment.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Is this the new one?

Ole didn't want rid of Lukaku
Ole didn't want rid of Herrera
Ole didn't want rid of Sanchez
Ole didn't want rid of Fellani

It was all the board?
It's the boards fault for not replacing them I'd say. But I doubt they made the push to shove the above out the door in the first place.

More evidence to suggest Ole thought his squad is much better than it actually is. His risk, same with the Rashford / Martial one.

No wonder the starting 11 is muck

Fúcking sure he thought that. Remember when he first came in last December? He was almost fuming at the (then) current state and placing of the club. "These players are better than this...we will be known as the fastest and most aggressive team in the league" etc.

Fast forward to this season, his tune has changed something serious. Except for Herrera, he definitely (IMO) identified Lukaku, Fellaini and Sanchez as surplus to his requirements.

The club is in shíte no matter who the manager is and the rot won't stop with an Ole sacking, however he has put himself out on multiple unnecessary limbs in the midst of a shítstorm and it's gonna hurt him and his managerial career.

The Rooster

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Fcukit City 1 down.

Wrong thread.
Surely?

Ninthlife

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Thats kind of insane tbf, something has to be wrong at the club over the fitness training

Really the sports science and medical team need to be asked questions. The season is only started.

Id also be asking Carrick and McKenna if they do anything other than set out cones at training

J. Marston

Going on a football media blackout for a while. Football is misery. Peace, lads!

Mantis Toboggan

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Thats kind of insane tbf, something has to be wrong at the club over the fitness training

Has been like that for some time regardless of manager. Then again most of our lads if they sneeze once their out for 2 weeks.

Mantis Toboggan

The Rooster wrote: »

Wrong thread.
Surely?

Sure all the United lads are supporting city already.

Ninthlife

Ninthlife wrote: »

Really the sports science and medical team need to be asked questions. The season is only started.

Id also be asking Carrick and McKenna if they do anything other than set out cones at training

They do, however Ole gave a SS interview in the last 24 hours praising them to the hilt. "If you saw what I saw behind the scenes, you'd be impressed"...that kind of thing.

I'm not expecting him to hang them out to dry in a public interview, but there are other ways to answer that question without just putting it down to "They're great and injuries are just a part of football".

wanderer100

We're going to get some battering against Liverpool. They're at an all time high, cloud 9 right now.

Would love for us to end their streak and disrupt their title chances but it's so so unrealistic. Don't even think Ole believes he can get anything from that game

Will I Am Not

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Thats kind of insane tbf, something has to be wrong at the club over the fitness training

Down there with the worst teams for work rate last season. Ole stated he wanted to make them the hardest working in the league... with a threadbare squad, what could possibly go wrong?

Ninthlife

[Deleted User] wrote: »

They do, however Ole gave a SS interview in the last 24 hours praising them to the hilt. "If you saw what I saw behind the scenes, you'd be impressed"...that kind of thing.

I'm not expecting him to hang them out to dry in a public interview, but there are other ways to answer that question without just putting it down to "They're great and injuries are just a part of football".

I just dont think Ole has it in him to be negative, maybe behind closed doors hes different but we could lose 8-0 and he would smile and find something positive