Boards.ie 2019 Draft Game 3 - SlickRic v jayo26

IncognitoMan

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If one team does not set put their side/tactics inside a 24hr period they will automatically forfeit the tie.

Each poster who votes must give some kind of reason in the thread as to why they voted one way or another to have their vote in the poll counted. This is in the interest of fairness and to discourage voting because you like/dislike a certain poster and to encourage voting for a set of players/ tactical approach instead.

Good luck to both posters.

SlickRic

Will have my full team description up in the morning.

No time to do it in the detail required this evening!

Flowers
Petrescu Carvalho Carragher Pearce
Cazorla Maschersno Dembele
J.Cole Aguero Hazard

SlickRic

So here is my team.



Thinking behind my picks:

Attack
I went with my gut when I was thrown into the draft, that I needed to get my spine right, first and foremost, starting with my attacking areas because there was still top tier talent available. Getting Aguero and Hazard together at the start gave me a platform to which I know from the off that I had goals, no matter what I did with much of the rest of my team.

Solidity
from there, it was about solidity down the centre of the team. Mascherano and Carvalho immediately provided that as two elite players in their positions. I want the team to be flexible in how it plays - able to press when needed, meaning you need energy, but also the tactical and technical nous to not only recover the ball quickly, but to keep the ball when you get it, so as to strangle the opposition. the likes of the aforementioned Mascherano, Dembele, Cazorla, Cole, and Aguero (as seen under Pep) allow that in abundance. But I also wanted a team with grit, and able to soak up pressure against teams that will no doubt be excellent in this draft. I feel Masch and the Carra/Carvalho partnership allow that, with Pearce at LB and Flowers in goal being solid as fúck.

On the Dembele pick, which some (I know) found slightly controversial. I took him early enough because there were very few players left at even that early stage at round 6, that have his skillset in being able to sit and provide bite, but also be able to keep the ball as well as anyone, and perhaps most importantly - dribble with the ball. break the lines. himself, Cazorla and Hazard are all adept at linking up and striking relationships with similarly talented players, but they can also take responsibility and run with the ball.

the other key thing about the midfield 3 is that they are all mobile, and that will be needed. With Petrescu (who I'll get to in a minute) and Pearce (to a slightly lesser extent) playing high at times, the role of those midfielders is to be able to shift across the pitch quickly and instictively when the opposition tries to hit their men directly on the counter. between them, they will fill those gaps left by the full backs, in order to keep the pressure on.

and if the opposition is able to beat them, Carvalho and Carragher are as good at one-on-one defending as you're likely to see. And Carvalho one of the great defensive readers of the game.

Full backs
Petrescu was also a key nab for my team. He was a modern full back before the term existed. He will be needed to provide the width to allow Cole to do a lot of his work on the inside right channel. He can run, cross and see a pass. Pearce, at 30 years old, can do the same on the other, as well as being a dead ball specialist.

Creativity
In Hazard, Aguero, J.Cole and Cazorla, i have some of the most creative collection of talents you could hope for. while i've spoken about the hard work and tactical discipline, at the end of the day, they are there to create and score. I should have no problem doing that.

In conclusion
I hope you will all see that the team is balanced, solid, creative and potent. i don't believe they are too many chinks to speak of, with every player having a specific skillset that is essential to the overall function of the team.

jayo26

Ok so I'll just give my reasons for my picks and what I want from my team.

When I started off I decided that I wanted to emulate the tried and trusted approach from Alex Ferguson that gave him record number of league titles, all of his teams were built around players that work, players that turned up and played their ass off for the team. I wanted a hard working midfield that was content at defending and working hard to get the ball back and could also turn and help out with the attack I think I've got that in Milner and Petit, both players that have excellent stamina and defensive capability but can also pick out a pass and will control a game.

With rooney in the team I also have the flexibility to allow him drop back and help out in midfield and allow speed and Beckham provide wide outlets to recieve the ball to the take pressure off the center of the pitch. When the ball is out wide I don't think I need to explain this much but Nevile and Beckham will go down in folklore as the epitome of how two players should work a wing they would simply overpower and not allow the other team have a chance on the wing. Similar on the other side while they didn't play each other alonso is one of the best attacking full backs in recent premierleague history he will bomb down the wing all game and one of my midfielders will be able drop back and insure the defence isnt stretched without him. Gary speed ahead of him also has the ability to create chances out wide and cut in for extra pressure on the opposition defence and he was a pretty damn good header of the ball for anything that missed the central players.

Moving on to my defence and goalkeeper I again concentrated on players that could work together, David Seaman and keown were two of the best players in the early Arsenal teams they know how each other works communication between the centerbacks and keeper is key to a successful defence add into that Ronny Johnson and you have the guy that was the lynch pin of the most successful Premier league side ever the team that won the holy grail the treble. Its telling that Johnson played all the big games in the premier league that year and played all the finals and semi finals Fergie trusted him to tie that defence together and partner Stam.

Upfront I have the workhorse that's Wayne Rooney he partnered up with so many strikers and succeeded with all of them and his partnership with Berbatov was a joy to behold some of their passing and movement haven't been seen in premierleague since, the skill of Berbatov added to his calmness at picking out a pass or taking a chance and natural finishing and reading the game of Rooney they are just unstoppable for any defence and the fact is that I don't have to pretend that they work well together I can point to premier league titles and goals that show they do.

Others talk about spine but in my belief I have an entire team that's a spine, I have fullbacks and wide players that compliment each other, I have strong aggressive defenders that are both physical and Johnson gives the height needed for air protection, I have midfielders that work hard defensively but are also passmasters they can create from nowhere and I have four attacking players that can all link up and again compliment each other with hard work and skill and finesse my entire team is built on players that were winners and made various teams of seasons and won trophies to show the winning mentality that they have.

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Here is how I can see my team working hard if we happen to get pressed in midfield, Rooney will drop back and sit in front of two defensive midfielders and win ball back. All 3 can pick a pass from nowhere and deliver it to the wide players if in space or Berbatov to get in behind rooney then has the speed and stamina to be able get forward and be an attacking option as we have seen him do throughout his career. I have pace and height in central defence to cope with any mixture of high balls or running.



Here is how I like to see my team attacking and where I think we will come and dominate the game. The passing speed and ability of my attacking players would simply overwhelm the opposition I have so many options can play it out wide and in the midle with ease and no one better then Rooney and Berbatov to link up together and with the wide players.

With the fullbacks I have the ability to allow one of them at a time to support the attack and the wide players to cut inside and be overlapped by the fullback and as one fullback pushes forward then either milner or petit has the ability and awareness to drop back and make sure defence isn't stretched. If we do happen to be be hit on the counter we have loads of power in defence and then speed of midfield players and Rooney to track back and help midfield out again this is not imaginery this is what has happened throughout his career.

jayo26

Ok so just to give my opinion on slicks team and his formation is pretty much as I predicted he doesn't have much options to be fair.

I'll start off at the back I was kind of surprised with Tim Flowers he was a decent keeper but one that was prone to glaring mistakes


He also wouldn't be the strongest at commanding his area on crosses.

Moving onto the back four now and on paper they are four names that many will say oh nice picks individually but when you put them all together you have two centerback that thrived with a better stronger partner beside them both been only 6 foot tall leaves them vulnerable in the air, you have two wing backs that lacked pace although you could give Pearce a notable mention for his amazing heart but that's not going to help much when you have hazzard in front of him not helping out defensively and it's worth nothing that all of Stuart Pearce was at his best and team of the season awards were before the days of the premier league. Overall I think the defence is slow and short and with my team working the wings and crosses and running in behind they would be overwhelmed with a weak keeper behind them.

Moving onto midfield and again on paper 3 good midfielders but Mascherano can't do all the defensive work on his own he was an excellent holding mid and box to box but not the fastest and working alongside cazorla and Dembele he wouldn't get much help or freedom to help out attack. Dembele has a good engine but he wasn't great defensively he would easily be caught up the pitch by my team with my excellent passing ability.

Moving onto slicks attack which everyone thought started off great but in reality yes Aguero was a solid pick but he would be isolated against my two physical centerback. Hazard on his day could be a genius but he also can be easily marked out of the game by Gary nevile (one of the best right backs ever and undoubtedly the best in premierleague history) and Petit keeping a close eye on him... Remember how Ander Herrera made hazzard look poor well imagine what two world class players could do to mark him out of the game. Cazorla attacking wise on his day was top quality but he only had one very good season at arsenal he was injury prone and not on that level ever again I think depending on him to be a central playmaker of the team would be a very risky move and something my defence and midfield could easily deal with. Also focusing on Joe Cole and Hazzard defensively this is a major problem area for slick.... They simply don't defend he would be left defending with Aguero, hazard, Cole, cazorla and Dembele upfield and maybe Dembele would get back but he wouldn't have much defensive ability when he did get back.

Overall I'm looking to exploit slicks teams lack of defensive support on the wings the low defensive workrates of his attacking players, im looking to exploit the lack of height and strenght in his back four and lack of pace also in the back line. I'm looking to exploit his keaper that is prone to errors when put under pressure.

SlickRic

I agree with jayo that he has a strong and aggressive defence, but I just believe my attacking options would be too slick, with Alonso being a particular weak link in a four man defence.

Hazard will pull whoever he wants all over the place, and will take turns with Cole to pick on Alonso all day. in fact, i think they'll be pulled around by most of my front players. we can switch the ball quickly from side to side with any number of players, as I've a few great passers of the ball. Petrescu and Pearce will be able to get involved.

and don't forget, Aguero is up there with the very best to have ever done it in front of goal in this league. he can score a half chance, and he'll get more than that.

and I've too many dribblers to handle. Hazard, Aguero, Cole, Cazorla. my midfield 3 will be too much, and will get far too much ball to my attackers for us not to win IMO. they also have too much nous in defence to allow too many dangerous counters. they're all mobile enough to cover the gaps, and effective in their tackling - particularly Masch/Dembele. They will help Petrescu to keep Alonso and Speed honest. Speed, in particular, is going to have so much to worry about going the other way.

i like the Beckham, Rooney, Berbatov axis. that will give me the most trouble. though with Pearce, Masch, Carra the principle people covering that quarter of the pitch, that'll be a humdinger of a battle. Beckham's delivery is always a problem, and will be no matter who your defence is, but i'm confident in my centre halves, as well as the pressure Pearce et al will be able to put on the delivery so as it's at least pressured. they also won't be dribbled past by the attack. Rooney is the only one to worry about from that perspective.

any notion that my front players would be easily handled is fanciful at best and hurts your argument. Aguero would not be isolated in that team, far from it. he'll have support from all over the place. and we're talking about Hazard at his best, not when he downed tools for Mourinho. he runs the show. Neville is great and all, but he'd need Beckham to nullify him, as was often the case. and that will hurt Becks going the other way.

in all, I think the pressure my team will exert will be just too much.

jayo26

May the best team win pal.

SlickRic

100%. let's see what happens.

jayo26

Didn't know we were allowed edit our posts after seen the others tactical response. Ohh well.

SlickRic

jayo26 wrote: »

Didn't know we were allowed edit our posts after seen the others tactical response. Ohh well.

I've taken it out.

jayo26

No interest mate I had my tactics and defence set out before you even post your lineup pal nothing you post changed my thinking or caused me to have to put in a sneaky edit.

SlickRic

jayo26 wrote: »

No interest mate I had my tactics and defence set out before you even post your lineup pal nothing you post changed my thinking or caused me to have to put in a sneaky edit.

to be fair, i've taken it out now. it wasn't meant to be sneaky FFS, it saved me doing another post, like Morzadec did in another thread on Tevez.

Trigger

Moving on.. 2 nicely set up line ups, will really have to think about the setups of each before voting.. gonna be a tough one.. good going lads

Skylinehead

jayo26

I'd give this one to Ric probably. Midfield is stronger purely in numbers, sure Rooney can help out but he won't be there all the time and it's 3 hard-working midfielders vs 2. Unless Speed comes inside, which is possible with Alonso getting forward a lot. Creative force the same, looking at Cazorla, Cole and Hazard vs really only Beckham and a little bit of Rooney in midfield.

I think Jayo would have benefitted from a more goal-getting centre forward than Berbatov, great player but I don't think he's the type to benefit from Beckham service. Maybe Rooney in one of his 20 goal seasons leading the line?

Defensively the same really. Keown and Neville, that side is excellent. But Alonso is a genuinely poor defender (good going forward) and I think Cole will rinse him. Johnsen was pretty good, but I think he could get overwhelmed a bit. Rics is a bit more balanced but I'd have concerns over Pearce at his age. Beckham will have fun there, but again will the strikers capitalise?

Hazard and Aguero, which should work wonderfully, together with more midfield solidity gives this one to Ric for me.

jayo26

SlickRic wrote: »

to be fair, i've taken it out now. it wasn't meant to be sneaky FFS, it saved me doing another post, like Morzadec did in another thread on Tevez.

It still there.. The bit about Flowers and Aguero that you wrote in afterwards? Still see it.

Counter with posts if you feel the need thats the proper way to do it like Morzadec did then anyone can see and respond also, I just didn't think an edit that was done like that was needed if I hadn't of seen it I couldn't counter if I actually needed to.

SlickRic

jayo26 wrote: »

It still there.. The bit about Flowers and Aguero that you wrote in afterwards? Still see it.

Counter with posts if you feel the need thats the proper way to do it like Morzadec did then anyone can see and respond also, I just didn't think an edit that was done like that was needed if I hadn't of seen it I couldn't counter if I actually needed to.

'proper way'?

i didn't think an edit was that big a deal, as everyone would see it anyway. it was within a 2 minutes. it made no odds, and the point wasn't to make you miss it or to hoodwink anyone.

anyway, it's all as originally done. just going to leave this now. i honestly didn't think it would be an issue. can't be arsed doing more posts on the match if there are issues over this.

Morzadec

jayo26

I think the pace, skill, movement and dribbling ability of Hazard and Aguero is going to cause problems for absolutely any team, and for me Keown and Johnson are not quite at the elite level of centre-back to deal with this - both were partnered with a more established world class centre backs (Stam and Adams / Campbell). Both spent part of their time as backup, and neither ever made it into a PFA team of the year, so this is what I'm getting at - both were competent but not sure quite at the very highest class - I also think that they are attritional physical centre-backs that would deal well with a Shearer perhaps, but could really struggle with the trickery pace and movement of Slick's attack. I prefer Slick's balance here of one mobile and classy (Carvalho) and one old-fashioned / no nonsense (Carragher), and I also think that both these centre-backs were probably at one time considered amongst the top 10 in Europe.

I think Jayo's team is set up to get crosses in and they could get some joy here, with both Slick's centre backs coming in at only just about the 6ft mark. With Beckham's delivery and Rooney and Berb on the end I could see some joy here. Having Pearce as a defence minded full back might help here, but there could be goals here in this route.

As for how the midfield battle goes, I think Slick has the perfect balance of a mobile destroyer who can also pass well enough if the passes are simple (Macsherano), a powerful dribbler hard to knock off the ball (Dembele), and the Spanish class and creativity (Cazorla). Jayo has good physical players and Milner is far from a bad player on the ball, and Petit has a lot of class, but I would expect Slick to largely win the passing battle in the middle and Jayo to try to make it more physical.

Hazard will drop in here too, as will Rooney for Jayo - opinion can be mixed on Hazard but I truly think he's one of the all time greats and he can dominate a game and suck players into him which is going to cause problems.

I think Jayo's best chance would to be to sit quite deep, try to frustrate Slick's team, and see what joy he could get from quick transitions out wide to create crossing opportunities and set pieces.

On his day this could win it for Jayo. But I think the majority of the time the defence struggles to keep Slick's attack from scoring a couple of goal.

So overall I'm going with Slick here as I feel he just overall has the better players, particularly when you look at the main attack vs defence matchups, and while Jayo's team would be hard-working and attritional I think this class would win out.

jayo26

SlickRic wrote: »

'proper way'?

i didn't think an edit was that big a deal, as everyone would see it anyway. it was within a 2 minutes. it made no odds, and the point wasn't to make you miss it or to hoodwink anyone.

anyway, it's all as originally done. just going to leave this now. i honestly didn't think it would be an issue. can't be arsed doing more posts on the match if there are issues over this.

Mate I've no issues about been countered whatsoever it's only a game at end of the day. The only issue I had is we both post at the exact same time with our tactics which I thought was great it was two honest assessments of each other's tactics then I read yours and and was a good reply but when I refreshed page I see you had edited it to counter what I had written up about your keeper selection and how I planned to deal with aguero

You had two posts one talk about your tactics and second to talk about how you would counter my tactics. Anything after that then we debate back and forth.

Anyway I'm leaving this as it is now I'll allow people judge the teams as they see fit.

SlickRic

jayo26 wrote: »

Mate I've no issues about been countered whatsoever it's only a game at end of the day. The only issue I had is we both post at the exact same time with our tactics which I thought was great it was two honest assessments of each other's tactics then I read yours and and was a good reply but when I refreshed page I see you had edited it to counter what I had written up about your keeper selection and how I planned to deal with aguero

You had two posts one talk about your tactics and second to talk about how you would counter my tactics. Anything after that then we debate back and forth.

Anyway I'm leaving this as it is now I'll allow people judge the teams as they see fit.

fair enough. it wasn't meant as sneaky. that's what i wasn't happy with, so apologies for jumping the gun.

this is just meant to be a bit of fun, so I don't want it seen that i was trying to gain a sneaky advantage. honestly, i couldn't be bothered going to those lengths

MrKingsley

jayo26

If these two teams were to meet with everyone at their peak then I can't see anything other than a straightforward win for Ric.

I just do not see how Johnsen and Keown could come close to keeping Aguero (and Hazard when he cuts in) quiet.

I think Jayo's team would be over-reliant on play coming down the right hand side.

I think milner & petit v Dembele & masch would be a great match up but then Cazorla would offer Ric so much more. If Speed had to tuck in and help out then that could leave Alonso up against Cole and an over lapping Petrescu which would be an absolute nightmare.

bucketybuck

jayo26

Random thoughts:

-Tim Flowers was a superb keeper, they all have a mistake in their career so I don't get that bit.
-Stuart Pearce had lots of great years in the PL. More to the point, Beckham will not like having to get past Pearce, that is not a good match up for Beckham at all.
-Carvalho was a great defender but I never rated Carragher and although there are not many good right full backs, that still doesn't mean I rate Petrescu too much either.
-In midfield, I think Dembele was a mistake but the other two will complement each other well. Joe Cole was talented but he never hit the heights he should have done, I wouldn't see him as particularly dangerous in a draft like this.
-Peak Hazard and Aguero? Yeah, you aren't stopping them.

On the other side:

- Alonso a definite weakness, although it is true that the team is set up defensively to compensate. Ronny Johnson getting underrated in here as well, he was a damn fine defender.
- I'm not sure about the use of Gary Speed, he seems to be positioned far too wide for my liking.
- Rooney and Beckham are top class as everybody knows. My problem there is Berbatov, he didn't have much of a partnership with Rooney when he was at the club so whats different now? And he isn't the best target for Beckham at all, if Les Ferdinand or Diego Costa were there I would give that attack far more chance, but I'm not a Berbatov fan at all.
- Milner and Petit are good solid midfield options but they aren't giving much attacking input, Rooney and Beckham both will have to come deep to get on the ball, how will that affect the attack? Although that might suit Beckham to get away from Pearce who will be shutting down those wide crosses quite effectively.


Two good teams here, but I'm going to go with Slickric. It has a good balance and good players in their own right, but while Jayos team will be hard to break down the likes of Hazard, Cazorla and Aguero are well fit to do it.

redzerdrog

jayo26

When I first saw slicks team I thought his defence wasn't the most mobile and that it could be a weakness however Jay's team doesn't really have the players to exploit this fully.

I don't know if I am picking this up right but it looks like Jay plans on playing a 4-2-3-1 with Beck's and speed as wingers and Rooney as a 10. I have to say I hate this and looks like pigeon holing players into a formation.

Imo with the players at hand you play a natural 4-4-2 and get Rooney who was a phenomenal goalscorer as close to the goal as possible. I'd even have berba dropping the deeper of the two if required.

Slicks team just functions better for me

I will go for a narrow 2-1 win for Slick

Dickerty

I'm leaning towards Jayo. A lot of star quality, a lot of leaders and would be hard to score against...

dr.kenneth noisewater

jayo26

Jayos team, I like the midfield but would have swapped Milner and Speeds positions. Very strong RW with Becks and Neville would cause serious damage but dont think Berba is the man to do. Berba always worked best with a natural finished like Keane I thought as he likes to drift to the no 10 position so think him and Rooney could both end up in the same position with neither really staying up top. Think Alonso is a poor choice in a back 4 but think the CB's are solid enough. Never really rated Seaman but he was much better than Flowers.

Slick's team, looks better balanced. Good CB pairing but wouldnt be overly gone on either full backs. The front 3 look great and was very close to picking Cole myself. Good link men in Dembele and Cazorla while Mascherano gives great defensive cover. Cant see the 2 full backs giving much attacking support so thats a very solid back 4 with Masch. Flowers I wouldnt rate that highly but suppose I didntsee enough of him but always seemed dodgy under high balls from what I remember.

Overall I think SlickRic has a better balanced team with a better defence and strikeforce.

Trigger

I do think this is a lot closer than it looks, slicks attack is very good and should create chances, I'd be worried about Hazard and Aguero taking up similar positions to often though.

Both have good defences with some weaknesses, I seen it said previously that Beckham wouldnt be getting by Pearse, I dont think that would be needed with his link down the right, Beckham would have Neville there to create the space and cant see Hazard doing too much tracking back to help him out. They are sure to create chances from that side.

I would actually predict this as a draw in 90min and seeing jayo's back for holding out during extra time.

Jayo with a narrow 2-1 victory AET

dfx-

jayo26

Slick's team outside of the full backs are a very tough team and will take this one. Carvalho will complement Carragher very well. Two different defenders when in others teams seen to date there have been one or two tall and slow centrebacks.

Rooney dropping deep is not something I think works and Berbatov is another who lets games drift by, not getting into the game much..

Ferris_Bueller

I'll go for SlickRic. His team seems better balanced overall and I think having the three in midfield up against Petit and Milner will see them dominate the ball and create better opportunities going forward. Aguero and Hazard will be a lethal duo for anyone to deal with and even Cole/Cazorla linking up on the other side could has major problems for Marcos Alonso who I don't rate. Berbatov and Rooney are a great strike partnership in fairness but I think Carragher and Carvalho would work well together and have a good partnership. I would see Slicks team edging this game 2-1 and would see Alonso/Johnsen as an area that he would exploit in particular.

Mr.Nice Guy

jayo26

Aaargh, been agonizing over this one as I see it as a very tough one to call, and one being decided on small margins.

The midfield battle is a tight affair for me and I can see it being a close run thing. Not sure the game will be decided here.

Hazard linking up with Aguero would be a nightmare for anybody but if anyone could handle that it's jayo's combo of Neville and Keown which I think would prove frustrating. I also see jayo getting joy on that side of the field in attack with Neville and Beckham linking up to overlap on Pearce, and Rooney lurking to take advantage.

On the other side of the field though I think it suits Slick more. I can see Joe Cole and Aguero striking up a good relationship akin to Sterling and Aguero. I think that would give Alonso and Johnson a big problem.

For me it would come down to which team can get the most joy offensively and I think that Cole and Aguero combo would ultimately prove decisive. I'll say Slick to edge it 2-1.

Turtyturd

jayo26

Most one sided match so far for me. Slic has some questionable picks (Carragher and the golf ball Messi) but runs out an easy winner here. As someone else said Rooney dropping deep just doesn’t work, and he wasn’t at his peak doing that. It always reminds me of him playing deep under Van Gaal/Mourinho and spraying ineffective cross field balls around.

Blue giant

Not a major fan of either team. Think Jayo has a serious lack of pace going forward apart from Rooney. I don’t think Berbatov suits the team brilliantly and a more poacher type player would do better I feel. Alonso is also a liability defensively although Speed would offer good protection there and the rest of the back 4 should be rock solid. Joe Cole is probably not the greatest player to take advantage of this either. The Beckham-Neville link is very nice though and could see Rooney capitalising on the crosses put in by them.

Not a fan of Slickrics midfield either. Mascherano is an excellent dm but mainly needed Alonso to progress the ball at Liverpool. Dembele is a great dribbler but is a relatively poor passer of the ball. This will cause Cazorla to have to drop deep and lose the link between midfield and attack. Hazard and Aguero should link up excellently though.

Ultimately I’m going to go with Jayo and would fancy a tight 1-0 victory for them but both teams have problems and strengths.

Lucas Hood

jayo26

Dembele had 90.7% passing accuracy during his Spurs time I'm not sure anyone could ever say he was a poor passer.

Hazard & Aguero simply too much for Jayos so Slic for me

Blue giant

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Dembele had 90.7% passing accuracy during his Spurs time I'm not sure anyone could ever say he was a poor passer.

Hazard & Aguero simply too much for Jayos so Slic for me

He has always been a very safe passer and wouldn't be someone I'd rely on to split the lines with his passing. High pass accuracy doesn't necessarily translate to being a great passer.

brinty

For me it's quite easy.

Jayo26 a clear winner.

His team is more balanced and will work by way harder than hazard,kun, cazorla and Joe Cole, who would be lazy and not get back.

They lack a midfield creative presence which would dictate tempo and get the ball forward.

That leaves a lot on his defence and carragher be would get exposed.

For Jayo, Breba would stroll about but Rooney would drop into midfield to help out and died and Beck's would tuck in if needed. Milner not a great pick but petit was a beasty lad in his day.