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Ireland agrees to plan on migrant resettlement

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    #812
    Jimmy McGill
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    Harvey Weinstein wrote: »
    Don't know if this has been posted already, but sometimes the truth does slip out..

    Strange sort of socialists and leftists we have, on the same page as big business and capitalists in advocating for policies that will suppress workers wages.

    The nutters at PBP/AAA want asylum seekers to have the right to work the second they arrive in this country. Can you imagine the race to the bottom for wages that would then happen next. Paul Murphy et al really show their true colours when they've nothing left to protest about, that they're on the side of the globalists.


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    #813
    Stephen15
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    Jimmy McGill wrote: »
    The nutters at PBP/AAA want asylum seekers to have the right to work the second they arrive in this country. Can you imagine the race to the bottom for wages that would then happen next. Paul Murphy et al really show their true colours when they've nothing left to protest about, that they're on the side of the globalists.

    PBP/AAA are Marxist Communists. Communism does not view people as human beings but merely economic units. At least with the likes of them they are open and honest about being anti Irish unlike FF and FG who pretend to be pro Irish when they are really anything but. Time to vote for An Páirtí Náisiúnta.



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    #814
    Jimmy McGill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭Jimmy McGill


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    PBP/AAA are Marxist Communists. Communism does not view people as human beings but merely economic units. At least with the likes of them they are open and honest about being anti Irish unlike FF nad FG who pretend to be pro Irish when they are really anything but. Time to vote for An Páirtí Náisiúnta.

    It looks like there'll be a decent support for The National Party in the next general election. I for one will be giving them a chance anyway, they're the only ones with the guts to say what's on most people's minds these days.


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    #815
    MarquisDeSad
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    Why would we want a fascist party elected in Ireland???


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    #816
    Harvey Weinstein
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    Jimmy McGill wrote: »
    It looks like there'll be a decent support for The National Party in the next general election. I for one will be giving them a chance anyway, they're the only ones with the guts to say what's on most people's minds these days.

    Never in a million years did I think I would vote for the National Party, I'm familiar with Barrett and know his history and did not like the guy to put it mildly.
    But watching his recent talks and speeches, he definitely has his finger on the malaise afflicting modern Ireland and given the chance I will vote for them.


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    #817
    Stephen15
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    MarquisDeSad wrote: »
    Why would we want a fascist party elected in Ireland???

    We already have them FF and FG


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    MarquisDeSad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 188 ✭✭MarquisDeSad


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    MarquisDeSad wrote: »
    Why would we want a fascist party elected in Ireland???

    We already have them FF and FG

    You really believe fianna fail and fine gael are fascist?


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    #819
    Stephen15
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    MarquisDeSad wrote: »
    You really believe fianna fail and fine gael are fascist?

    I don't see any evidence that NP are a fascist party anymore do than FG. Yes Justin Barrett attended a meeting with some fascists in Germany but wasn't the Blueshirts an actual fascist movement part of FG at one stage that would make FG more of a fascist party than the NP.

    Anyway I think the whole debate about fascism and the NP is completely irrelevant.


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    #820
    MarquisDeSad
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    MarquisDeSad wrote: »
    You really believe fianna fail and fine gael are fascist?

    I don't see any evidence that NP are a fascist party anymore do than FG. Yes Justin Barrett attended a meeting with some fascists in Germany but wasn't the Blueshirts an actual fascist movement part of FG at one stage that would make FG more of a fascist party than the NP.

    Anyway I think the whole debate about fascism and the NP is completely irrelevant.

    The blue shirts where over a hundred years ago. Time moves on.

    Justin Barrett and the national party are fascists. Of course it isn't irrelevant when the people bring up voting for the national party.


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    #821
    Stephen15
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    MarquisDeSad wrote: »
    The blue shirts where over a hundred years ago. Time moves on.

    Justin Barrett and the national party are fascists. Of course it isn't irrelevant when the people bring up voting for the national party.

    So time moves for FG but not for Justin Barrett. Give me some evidence that the NP are fascists because so far I have not seen any. And no just because they are anti immigration dies not make them fascists or maybe that's your logic. Trump was accused of being a fascist too, so was Orban, Salvini and the Polish governement all are in power and I have yet to see any fascism take off in any of those countries.


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    #822
    Harvey Weinstein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Harvey Weinstein


    Simon Harris, Varadkar, Coveny, Martin were all Pro Life and switched positions and they were forgiven for it.


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    #823
    Stephen15
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    Harvey Weinstein wrote: »
    Simon Harris, Varadkar, Coveny, Martin were all Pro Life and switched positions and they were forgiven for it.

    Sinn Fein were once Irish Nationalists aswell they changed their positions on that and manage not to get lambasted


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    #824
    Ultimate Seduction
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    MarquisDeSad wrote: »
    The blue shirts where over a hundred years ago. Time moves on.

    Justin Barrett and the national party are fascists. Of course it isn't irrelevant when the people bring up voting for the national party.

    Can you define fascist without googling it?


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    #825
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,427 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    MarquisDeSad wrote: »
    The blue shirts where over a hundred years ago. Time moves on.

    Justin Barrett and the national party are fascists. Of course it isn't irrelevant when the people bring up voting for the national party.


    The Blueshirts were not “over a hundred years ago”.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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    #826
    creeper1
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    Here is a bbc program giving an overview of the crisis

    https://youtu.be/20vztBi6xS0

    John Claude junker comes out looking like a useless softie whereas Donald tusk shows us his pragmatism.


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    #827
    Jimmy McGill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭Jimmy McGill


    MarquisDeSad wrote: »
    Why would we want a fascist party elected in Ireland???

    What exactly makes them fascist? IMO the extreme left are the fascists, in favour of the shutting down of the free speech of others by globalist companies. Also assaulting people and using different forms of violence against anyone that has a difference of opinion from the extreme left.

    I haven't seen the National Party do any of that so I don't know why they are labelled fascists?

    They have Ireland First policies and that's why they'll have my vote, and the vote of many people I know.


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    #828
    MarquisDeSad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 188 ✭✭MarquisDeSad


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    MarquisDeSad wrote: »
    The blue shirts where over a hundred years ago. Time moves on.

    Justin Barrett and the national party are fascists. Of course it isn't irrelevant when the people bring up voting for the national party.

    So time moves for FG but not for Justin Barrett. Give me some evidence that the NP are fascists because so far I have not seen any. And no just because they are anti immigration dies not make them fascists or maybe that's your logic. Trump was accused of being a fascist too, so was Orban, Salvini and the Polish governement all are in power and I have yet to see any fascism take off in any of those countries.


    Justin Barrett has a long history of speaking at neo nazi rallies...

    Though thankfully for us Irish he is a non entity and the Irish don't have an appetite for far right politics.

    You don't have to support the national party because you have issues with migration into the country.

    Democracy brought orban, salvini etc... Into power. Hopefully democracy gets them out of power soon to limit the damage they are doing to their states.


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    #829
    Ultimate Seduction
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    MarquisDeSad wrote: »
    Justin Barrett has a long history of speaking at neo nazi rallies...

    Though thankfully for us Irish he is a non entity and the Irish don't have an appetite for far right politics.

    You don't have to support the national party because you have issues with migration into the country.

    Democracy brought orban, salvini etc... Into power. Hopefully democracy gets them out of power soon to limit the damage they are doing to their states.

    Is a neo Nazi just someone whos not too keen on mass immigration?


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    #830
    MarquisDeSad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 188 ✭✭MarquisDeSad


    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    MarquisDeSad wrote: »
    The blue shirts where over a hundred years ago. Time moves on.

    Justin Barrett and the national party are fascists. Of course it isn't irrelevant when the people bring up voting for the national party.

    Can you define fascist without googling it?

    Why? What is the purpose of your question?


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    #831
    MarquisDeSad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 188 ✭✭MarquisDeSad


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    MarquisDeSad wrote: »
    The blue shirts where over a hundred years ago. Time moves on.

    Justin Barrett and the national party are fascists. Of course it isn't irrelevant when the people bring up voting for the national party.


    The Blueshirts were not “over a hundred years ago”.

    Ok. Ninety years give or take a year.


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    #832
    Ultimate Seduction
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    MarquisDeSad wrote: »
    Why? What is the purpose of your question?

    The purpose was to educate you. You clearly don't understand what facisim is.


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    #833
    Jimmy McGill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭Jimmy McGill


    MarquisDeSad wrote: »
    the Irish don't have an appetite for far right politics.

    You're wrong. Support for The National Party is growing by the day.


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    #834
    [Deleted User]
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    Jimmy McGill wrote: »
    You're wrong. Support for The National Party is growing by the day.

    Give a prediction for the number of TD's they get in the next Dail?


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    Augme
    Registered Users Posts: 5,893 ✭✭✭Augme


    Jimmy McGill wrote: »
    Stephen15 wrote: »
    PBP/AAA are Marxist Communists. Communism does not view people as human beings but merely economic units. At least with the likes of them they are open and honest about being anti Irish unlike FF nad FG who pretend to be pro Irish when they are really anything but. Time to vote for An Páirtí Náisiúnta.

    It looks like there'll be a decent support for The National Party in the next general election. I for one will be giving them a chance anyway, they're the only ones with the guts to say what's on most people's minds these days.


    Decent support? Funniest thing I have heard all week.


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    #836
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    Jimmy McGill wrote: »
    You're wrong. Support for The National Party is growing by the day.

    Erm, have they been remotely near getting elected anywhere? Like even to a community center board or something?


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    #837
    MarquisDeSad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 188 ✭✭MarquisDeSad


    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    MarquisDeSad wrote: »
    Justin Barrett has a long history of speaking at neo nazi rallies...

    Though thankfully for us Irish he is a non entity and the Irish don't have an appetite for far right politics.

    You don't have to support the national party because you have issues with migration into the country.

    Democracy brought orban, salvini etc... Into power. Hopefully democracy gets them out of power soon to limit the damage they are doing to their states.

    Is a neo Nazi just someone whos not too keen on mass immigration?
    Of course not. Though a neo nazi is a neo nazi.


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    #838
    MarquisDeSad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 188 ✭✭MarquisDeSad


    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    MarquisDeSad wrote: »
    Why? What is the purpose of your question?

    The purpose was to educate you. You clearly don't understand what facisim is.

    Yet, butyou haven't wrote one word educating me about fascism.

    I have no care for needlessly aggressive posts. If you want people to converse with you. Show them respect.


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    #839
    MarquisDeSad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 188 ✭✭MarquisDeSad


    Jimmy McGill wrote: »
    MarquisDeSad wrote: »
    Why would we want a fascist party elected in Ireland???

    What exactly makes them fascist? IMO the extreme left are the fascists, in favour of the shutting down of the free speech of others by globalist companies. Also assaulting people and using different forms of violence against anyone that has a difference of opinion from the extreme left.

    I haven't seen the National Party do any of that so I don't know why they are labelled fascists?

    They have Ireland First policies and that's why they'll have my vote, and the vote of many people I know.

    I would say the extreme left(AAA) and the extreme right(NP) have the same want for authoritarian power. Certainly AAA have shown they are incapable of civil discourse, compromise and pragmatism.
    Though I can't see where the likes of AAA/PBP would be supporters of transnational companies.

    Not quite sure what your referencing in terms of free speech?. The likes of YouTube and Dailymotion have terms and conditions the content creators have to abide by. It's quite hard to get yourself taken off in reality though.

    I abhor political violence myself.

    If you read the party manifestos of each of the Irish political parties their policies are 'Ireland first'.

    I'll get time later to spell out why the national party are fascist.


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    Stephen15
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    MarquisDeSad wrote: »
    Though thankfully for us Irish he is a non entity and the Irish don't have an appetite for far right politics.

    We will when the demographics start to change with regards to immigration. Mainstream parties won't do anything about immigration so it will have to be "far right" parties that people will vote for if they don't want the tidal wave of mass immigration
    You don't have to support the national party because you have issues with migration into the country.

    They're the only parties along with ACI, Identity Ireland and Irexit that appear willing to talk about the issues with immigration. If any of the mainstream parties change their tune on immigration which they won't then I might vote for them
    Democracy brought orban, salvini etc... Into power. Hopefully democracy gets them out of power soon to limit the damage they are doing to their states.

    What damage are they doing to their countries. I think Salvini is doing an excellent job preventing illegal immigration into Europe which can only be a good thing.


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    Stephen15
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Give a prediction for the number of TD's they get in the next Dail?

    Justin Barrett was speaking at the Google protests yesterday that they and/or ACI would have TDs running in every constituency


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