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Ireland agrees to plan on migrant resettlement

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    #1322
    creeper1
    Registered Users Posts: 670 ✭✭✭creeper1


    The Nationalist party are the only option here. Only when they garner enough support will the mainstream parties sit up, take notice and wonder if something needs to change in their policies.


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    #1323
    BIGT4464
    Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭BIGT4464


    biko wrote: »
    Leftists - everyone in Syria are running from war and must get permanent residency in Ireland


    At the same time - Syria summer 2018
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ3fkrjP8w4

    Looks a great place for a break. Wonder if flights are possible. will check


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    #1324
    overkill602
    Registered Users Posts: 267 ✭✭overkill602


    BIGT4464 wrote: »
    Looks a great place for a break. Wonder if flights are possible. will check


    Am sure ryanair are looking.....



    but too be fair the benefits system is a problem of our own making it is for life no incentive to ever leave quite the opposite govt can just increase prsi any time no 1 will even notice.


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    #1325
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    https://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=6348105
    Some municipalities allow unaccompanied minors to live with their spouses even though child marriage is illegal in Sweden, reports Swedish Radio News.

    Find everything wrong with the sentence above...


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    #1326
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    WB Yokes wrote: »
    We dont even know if thats what he said. We have the word of one person who has an agenda.

    Below is a transcript of what he said. He said absolutely nothing wrong whatsoever.


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    #1327
    overkill602
    Registered Users Posts: 267 ✭✭overkill602


    absolute nonsense letting in non vetted Africans in to access social welfare where some wont cant or wont have to work because the tax payer is generous enough to cough up
    Fcuk pbp communists if u vote for this lot ur a traitor.


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    #1328
    jmreire
    Registered Users Posts: 8,515 ✭✭✭jmreire


    BIGT4464 wrote: »
    Looks a great place for a break. Wonder if flights are possible. will check

    You just go right ahead !!!...
    Latakia is a bit packed at the moment though,,,full of Russians. Might be better off heading for Tartous, some very nice beaches there. And Hotels, and restaurants, has a good night life too.
    Getting there might be a problem...not too many airlines flying to Syria at the moment...Best bet is Europe -Istanbul by air, then Istanbul-Tartous ( or Damascus ) by road. Be prepared for delay's and holdups and military checkpoints, make sure that your documents are 100% in order....... Tartous and Latakia were relatively undamaged during the war...possibly the only two places that are that way, mainly because they are both Assad stronghold's...every other town and city in Syria will have large areas reduced to rubble. Don't make the mistake that the pic shown is a fair representation of Life in Syria...it's not and very far from it !!! Go to Syria at your peril, maybe in a few year's time it will be a safe holiday location, but not yet. Any Syrians presenting as asylum seekers, are definitely the genuine article


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    #1329
    jay0109
    Registered Users Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭jay0109


    The radio shows went to town on Grealish and are using the FG/Govt angle to apply the pressure.

    The Last Word had Cooper, Loughnane and some other SJW warrior called Pippa 'discuss' the meeting, what Grealish said and asylum in general.
    3 v 0.
    Drivetime went more for the reporting angle initially having a few of their staff give the news on the meeting followed by some insider in the asylum industry in Ireland who talked the party line.

    Make no mistake about it, Grealish is going to be hounded for the next few days. The Sunday morning radio shows, the Sunday papers are all going to want his head.


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    #1330
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,710 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Ireland should accept extra 1,500 refugees per year according to Migrant Council

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/ireland-should-accept-extra-1-500-refugees-a-year-say-ngos-1.4017556


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    #1331
    Calhoun
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    Fan of Netflix wrote: »
    But by anyone of importance? Just a load of far left malcontents like Mark Malone, Joe Loughnane, PBP and all the usual suspects on twitter in their echo chamber.

    Varadkar didn't really say much. I'm not sure much else matters. Grealish should say nothing, by tomorrow everyone will be talking about the All Ireland and it will be forgotten.

    They will do what they did with Casey, try and guilt them into stepping down when in reality they normally all have necks on them like a jockeys bollocks.
    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    he wasn't wrong though was he....

    No he wasn't wrong as there are some who are over here as economic migrants, not all though.

    I am more happy enough that we are doing our part and housing refugees from war torn areas of the world but not so much the economic migrants. If someone wants to come over here to work and earn then apply legally.

    I don't think its racist to call stuff like this out but we are now intolerant of all views but the correct one.


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    #1332
    Atlantic Dawn
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    jay0109 wrote: »
    Make no mistake about it, Grealish is going to be hounded for the next few days. The Sunday morning radio shows, the Sunday papers are all going to want his head.


    Yes but you get the likes of RTE news tonight at 9 then interviewing 2 asylum seekers who settled in a hotel in Wicklow Town last year, not a single question was asked to either of them about how they actually came to the country, surely getting them to detail how they got here would help in the witch hunt on Grealish and would be a 'fair and balanced' question to ask.


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    #1333
    jay0109
    Registered Users Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭jay0109


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Yes but you get the likes of RTE news tonight at 9 then interviewing 2 asylum seekers who settled in a hotel in Wicklow Town last year, not a single question was asked to either of them about how they actually came to the country, surely getting them to detail how they got here would help in the witch hunt on Grealish and would be a 'fair and balanced' question to ask.

    1 of them a white South African!!!


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    #1334
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    jay0109 wrote: »
    1 of them a white South African!!!

    Living in Fingal now, we just can't determine in what capacity ;)


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    #1335
    kildare lad
    Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    The results of politicians forcing immigration on its citizens leaves us with likes of Donald Trump as president and brexit happening . When will they learn . A good article below describes how the right wing is rising across Europe due to immigration . It seems politicians care for immigrants more than they do their own citizens. They've only themselves to blame

    https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-36130006


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    #1336
    irishproduce
    Registered Users Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    jay0109 wrote: »
    The radio shows went to town on Grealish and are using the FG/Govt angle to apply the pressure.

    The Last Word had Cooper, Loughnane and some other SJW warrior called Pippa 'discuss' the meeting, what Grealish said and asylum in general.
    3 v 0.
    Drivetime went more for the reporting angle initially having a few of their staff give the news on the meeting followed by some insider in the asylum industry in Ireland who talked the party line.

    Make no mistake about it, Grealish is going to be hounded for the next few days. The Sunday morning radio shows, the Sunday papers are all going to want his head.

    RTE news even had a beautiful piece where they collected a few people from a town where a DP dump was opened last yer with much concern, who, would you believe it??! Have had their fears allayed, all is fine actually and things are great.

    People wonder why RTE is retained...of course it is because it is a wonderful propaganda outlet.


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    #1337
    irishproduce
    Registered Users Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Yes but you get the likes of RTE news tonight at 9 then interviewing 2 asylum seekers who settled in a hotel in Wicklow Town last year, not a single question was asked to either of them about how they actually came to the country, surely getting them to detail how they got here would help in the witch hunt on Grealish and would be a 'fair and balanced' question to ask.
    jay0109 wrote: »
    1 of them a white South African!!!

    Both of them women...completely at odds with the statistics of who is illegally migrating


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    #1338
    irishproduce
    Registered Users Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    kildare lad wrote: »
    The results of politicians forcing immigration on its citizens leaves us with likes of Donald Trump as president and brexit happening . When will they learn . A good article below describes how the right wing is rising across Europe due to immigration . It seems politicians care for immigrants more than they do their own citizens. They've only themselves to blame

    https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-36130006

    You've really got to wonder who or what is driving this because politicians aren't thick. They are shrewd operators for the most part. It seems absurd that they would behave in such a way as to alienate their electorate.
    Of course, if there is a monopoly on "the right message" then there is no fear of being voted out because all other options are the same.

    Another politician this week shot from the cuff in a meeting with his constituents, but in another setting he may tow the line instead.
    Something in the public domain makes them say and do things they don't particularly agree with in private.
    What is it? Genuine question.


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    #1339
    creeper1
    Registered Users Posts: 670 ✭✭✭creeper1


    irishproduce wrote: »
    You've really got to wonder who or what is driving this because politicians aren't thick. They are shrewd operators for the most part. It seems absurd that they would behave in such a way as to alienate their electorate.
    Of course, if there is a monopoly on "the right message" then there is no fear of being voted out because all other options are the same.

    If you have an individual of unimaginable wealth supporting the organisation below then I think things get done.

    https://youtu.be/mFFa73h23wU


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    #1340
    kildare lad
    Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    irishproduce wrote: »
    You've really got to wonder who or what is driving this because politicians aren't thick. They are shrewd operators for the most part. It seems absurd that they would behave in such a way as to alienate their electorate.
    Of course, if there is a monopoly on "the right message" then there is no fear of being voted out because all other options are the same.

    Another politician this week shot from the cuff in a meeting with his constituents, but in another setting he may tow the line instead.
    Something in the public domain makes them say and do things they don't particularly agree with in private.
    What is it? Genuine question.

    Well Angela Merkel decided to do it and look how that ended up , who taught taking millions of young men from North Africa was a good idea. Lots of them aren't from war zones they're just coming to ride the gravy train . Just as well Ireland furthest away or we'd be overran with them .


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    #1341
    kildare lad
    Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    Drive up around the big tree pub in Dublin and see the amount of gyspies hanging around every morning , ready to go off begging and pick pocketing for the day. All live in bedsits or houses paid for by the state. They're all getting social welfare aswell , all they're good for is begging and having babies , so much for taking in all these " doctors and engineers "


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    #1342
    fisgon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭fisgon


    The hypocrisy and ignorance of some people on this thread is typified by Grealish himself, who has ranted about people coming to Ireland to improve their lives. From his website....

    "Like so many in the West of Ireland, many of the Grealish family had to emigrate in search of work — at one point there were seven of them abroad, and currently Noel has three siblings living in Boston and one each in Copenhagen, Chicago and Nebraska."


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    #1343
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,550 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    fisgon wrote: »
    The hypocrisy and ignorance of some people on this thread is typified by Grealish himself, who has ranted about people coming to Ireland to improve their lives. From his website....

    "Like so many in the West of Ireland, many of the Grealish family had to emigrate in search of work — at one point there were seven of them abroad, and currently Noel has three siblings living in Boston and one each in Copenhagen, Chicago and Nebraska."

    No no you don't get it, it's ok for the Irish to emigrate to other countries because they do it "legally" and sure don't they always go to work. You're not allowed to mention Ireland's history of emigration around the world you can only talk about people coming to Ireland to better their lives.


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    #1344
    Patrick2010
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    No no you don't get it, it's ok for the Irish to emigrate to other countries because they do it "legally" and sure don't they always go to work. You're not allowed to mention Ireland's history of emigration around the world you can only talk about people coming to Ireland to better their lives.

    No, they don’t always do it legally and if they are caught in America I have no problem with them being deported. Of course you can talk about emigration but this is a different thread.
    Also I don’t believe any Irish people went to America and expected to be supported with social welfare and free housing


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    Timberrrrrrrr
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    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    No, they don’t always do it legally and if they are caught in America I have no problem with them being deported. Of course you can talk about emigration but this is a different thread.
    Also I don’t believe any Irish people went to America and expected to be supported with social welfare and free housing

    Plenty in the UK.


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    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    fisgon wrote: »
    The hypocrisy and ignorance of some people on this thread is typified by Grealish himself, who has ranted about people coming to Ireland to improve their lives. From his website....

    "Like so many in the West of Ireland, many of the Grealish family had to emigrate in search of work — at one point there were seven of them abroad, and currently Noel has three siblings living in Boston and one each in Copenhagen, Chicago and Nebraska."

    IN SEARCH OF WORK


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    #1347
    biko
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    it's ok for the Irish to emigrate to other countries because they do it "legally"
    What's with the quotation marks? Are you saying Irish emigrants illegally sneak into countries?


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    #1348
    Yurt2
    Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    IN SEARCH OF WORK

    With 5 of them in the US, I'd bet my last Nigerian naira at least one of them went over illegally on a spoof intending to stay.

    Who cares if they were in search of work or in search of El Dorado, if they entered illegally and pursued work they were immediately in violation of their terms of entry.

    Why the US needs a mini-army of Grealishs on the spoof I'll never know.


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    #1349
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Yurt! wrote: »
    With 5 of them in the US, I'd bet my last Nigerian naira at least one of them went over illegally on a spoof intending to stay.

    Who cares if they were in search of work or in search of El Dorado, if they entered illegally and pursued work they were immediately in violation of their terms of entry.

    Why the US needs a mini-army of Grealishs on the spoof I'll never know.

    Well if you’d say, that’s irrefutable evidence. Case closed.


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    #1350
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,550 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    biko wrote: »
    What's with the quotation marks? Are you saying Irish emigrants illegally sneak into countries?

    They have been doing it for years, or have you never heard of "undocumented" irish in the states?


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    #1351
    Yurt2
    Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Well if you’d say, that’s irrefutable evidence. Case closed.

    Most Irish in the 80s (I'm guessing it was around then given Grealish's age) went over on a spoof and had to regularise themselves afterwards via whatever means.

    Let's be real, it's more likely than not at least one of them went over under such circumstances. They weren't going over on a extraordinary ability visa doing rocketry with NASA.


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