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F1 2019 - Round 11 Germany

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    #392
    Rossi IRL
    Registered Users Posts: 8,369 ✭✭✭Rossi IRL


    Toto is pissed

    Not happy at all

    Mentioned that they shouldn't be fooling around (hinting at the retro stuff) and many mistakes were made.


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    #393
    flazio
    Registered Users Posts: 13,131 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Yeah, do most of that on Friday, keep the livery all weekend of course, but get to business on Saturday


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    #394
    Cork Trucker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    skipper_G wrote: »
    I'm a big fan of Albon but he needs time to mature. Would be a big risk to take

    It'd be the same risk they took with Gasly essentially, stick Kvyat in it for the rest of this season and next, then promote Albon? I'd bring Hartley back quicker than putting Gasly in the TR again.


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    #395
    Cork Trucker
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    flazio wrote: »
    Bit early for Albon in my opinion. Both drivers would still look pedestrian beside Verstappen.

    Both would be great number 2 drivers which Gasly can't even manage


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    #396
    flazio
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    Cork Trucker wrote: »
    Both would be great number 2 drivers which Gasly can't even manage

    Which is why I think it's better to stay at TR and be better than a No. 2 driver.


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    #397
    Faugheen
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    If only there was another driver who has just won back to back titles in another racing series that Red Bull binned too early.


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    #398
    Cork Trucker
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    Faugheen wrote: »
    If only there was another driver who has just won back to back titles in another racing series that Red Bull binned too early.

    Alonso :D


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    #399
    flazio
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    Faugheen wrote: »
    If only there was another driver who has just won back to back titles in another racing series that Red Bull binned too early.

    That whole series was even more of a lottery then this one race. I doubt JEV wants to go anywhere.


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    #400
    Cork Trucker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    flazio wrote: »
    That whole series was even more of a lottery then this one race. I doubt JEV wants to go anywhere.

    JEV said he'd go back but only to competitive machinery, the senior team might just do it for him.


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    #401
    Jordan 199
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    Was ex Mercedes man Norbert Haug handing out a trophy on the podium?


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    #402
    Cork Trucker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    On another note, Kubica finished 12th, behind Hamilton and ahead of Russell, He's now ahead of GR in the championship as a result, Dowtcha Bobby boy!


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    #403
    weekaizer
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    Be an interesting summer break... my gut feeling gasly won’t be in Red Bull seat in spa. Kyvat deserves the seat IMO. Gasly has been septic and only showed 1 or 2 brief moments of reasonableness such as silverstone and one of the practice sessions when they probably ran him with no fuel to try and build his confidence. His goose is cooked.


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    #404
    skipper_G
    Registered Users Posts: 14,647 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    Verstappen has finished in the top 5 for 20 races in a row stretching back to Spa last season. That is the kind of relentless consistency that separates great from good


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    #405
    flazio
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    Jordan 199 wrote: »
    Was ex Mercedes man Norbert Haug handing out a trophy on the podium?

    That wasn't him. Haug is taller and a bit leaner


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    #406
    weekaizer
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    I was fully expecting the headlines to read something along lines off ‘Hamilton, despite being handicapped with a runny nose and sore throat, wins German Gp shortly after he quoted it as his greatest ever achievement in landmark Mercedes race....’ so glad it didn’t materialize!.


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    #407
    Joeface
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    Still too soon for Gasly change. Today was harsh , he lasted as long as Bottas and at least he was fighting for a place when he went out. , Bottas , Lewis , Charles all f'ed up with clean air Infront of them . Everyone's place ment was all over the place with time of pitstops .

    The only team that has to look at their drivers now is Haas . Under performing car and stupid drivers not helping


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    #408
    Cork Trucker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    Joeface wrote: »
    Still too soon for Gasly change. Today was harsh , he lasted as long as Bottas and at least he was fighting for a place when he went out. , Bottas , Lewis , Charles all f'ed up with clean air Infront of them . Everyone's place ment was all over the place with time of pitstops .

    The only team that has to look at their drivers now is Haas . Under performing car and stupid drivers not helping

    Bottas needed 2 good clean races before the summer break, with Ocon waiting in the wings this isn't what he needed.


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    #409
    Faugheen
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    flazio wrote: »
    That whole series was even more of a lottery then this one race. I doubt JEV wants to go anywhere.

    He would absolutely go back if Red Bull came calling. And he's easily a better option than Kvyat and Albon in my opinion.


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    #410
    skipper_G
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    Both the Alfas are being investigated for some infringement at the start procedure


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    #411
    Faugheen
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    Joeface wrote: »
    Still too soon for Gasly change. Today was harsh , he lasted as long as Bottas and at least he was fighting for a place when he went out. , Bottas , Lewis , Charles all f'ed up with clean air Infront of them . Everyone's place ment was all over the place with time of pitstops .

    The only team that has to look at their drivers now is Haas . Under performing car and stupid drivers not helping

    Haas really need to get someone like Alexander Rossi in. He's proven himself in the states and would bring sponsorship. American man driving for an American team etc.


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    #412
    Cork Trucker
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    Stroll led the race as we all know, the only Canadian since Villeneuve, was Luxembourg GP 1997 the last time he led a race?


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    #413
    Cork Trucker
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    Faugheen wrote: »
    Haas really need to get someone like Alexander Rossi in. He's proven himself in the states and would bring sponsorship. American man driving for an American team etc.

    Who should they drop? i think Grosjean has had his day.


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    #414
    Adamocovic
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    What a race. Been waiting for some chaos like that.

    Thought it was gas that Vettel for all the criticisms of being error prone was one of the few to have a clean race. And what a drive he had. Like he said afterwards was very much like DC, not flashy but crept up.

    Also Grosjean pretty much kept it together which was a surprise!


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    #415
    Faugheen
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    Cork Trucker wrote: »
    Who should they drop? i think Grosjean has had his day.

    Don't think it makes much of a difference. They're both as bad as each other and have had plenty of chances.


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    #416
    Adamocovic
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    skipper_G wrote: »
    Both the Alfas are being investigated for some infringement at the start procedure

    Apparently got information from the team which is in breach of the rules.

    Could pop Lewis into the points.


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    #417
    cherryghost
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    Kubica may get a point. Holy crap.

    Isn't Hamiliton still also under investigation for the slow safety car pace?


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    #418
    Cork Trucker
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    Adamocovic wrote: »
    Apparently got information from the team which is in breach of the rules.

    Could pop Lewis into the points.

    If both are thrown out Hamilton will be 9th Kubica 10th


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    #419
    Adamocovic
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    Cork Trucker wrote: »
    If both are thrown out Hamilton will be 9th Kubica 10th

    My lord. A point for Williams??? They'd be on the beer for a week.


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    #420
    Faugheen
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    Adamocovic wrote: »
    What a race. Been waiting for some chaos like that.

    Thought it was gas that Vettel for all the criticisms of being error prone was one of the few to have a clean race. And what a drive he had. Like he said afterwards was very much like DC, not flashy but crept up.

    Also Grosjean pretty much kept it together which was a surprise!

    To be fair, Vettel has form for being error-prone when he's being chased down and you only have to look to this race last year for a good example.

    It was a great drive, but he was under very little pressure because it could not have gone any worse for him barring a retirement. Hopefully his confidence is back though. We need a Vettel on-form to keep up with Hamilton and Max.


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    #421
    Cork Trucker
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    Adamocovic wrote: »
    My lord. A point for Williams??? They'd be on the beer for a week.

    If Hamilton gets into more hot water for his second investigation they might have a double points finish, a week on the beer for one point, a month's holiday for the entire team in barbados for a double points finish


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