British version of Trump becomes PM

ChikiChiki

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Ireland by comparison.

Organised Gang Warfare with guns
Massive homeless problem
Health service on its knees
Working class wage collapse
Retirement age the highest in Europe
Hellish retirement homes
Massive welfare bill for non working immigrants
Areas becoming no go due to immigrants
Road deaths due to speeding still way too high
Policing is a joke
Elderly people dying in dirty hospitals
Massive cruelty to animals allowed carry on by a section of our society
Rural home invasions by the same section of our society
Young people still forced to leave this country

Political correctness rammed down our necks 24/7
Anybody who disagrees branded a Nazi

Yes the Prime Minister of another country being a bit of a plonker really is causing me sleepless nights.:D

Cannot disagree with a lot of that and you have even left out some big ones:eek:

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

I hate to be that guy but it’s borders. Not boarders.

Always strange to me anyone railing against open borders always seems to make that spelling mistake.

Anyways. Even within the Eu open borders are a myth.
Your passport will be checked in Berlin or Dublin or Paris no matter what.
It’s kind of a red herring that people are freaking out over it when it’s actually baseless

?

Passports aren’t in fact checked throughout the schengen zone.

In any case it’s not passport checks that are pertinent, it’s the rights to work or live in any EU countries coming from any other EU country.

Stop moaning ffs

Enter name here wrote: »

Sorry for the late reply but couldn't let this go unanswered.

The EU was never a peace arrangement, the EU was simple way of Germany to control Europe after 2 failed wars, they managed to succeed by economic means instead of a 3rd war. Countries like France you have very short memories and sold their countries for a pot of gold just like Ireland. The EU is nothing more than an extension of Germany and should be viewed for what is truly is which are member states of the German Empire.

Now the good news, once the UK leave the EU and establish trade deals with the US and together with the US start to undermine and already weakening EU the other member states will start to realise there is life after German rule and start there own referendums and start the process of leaving also. The EU is already an economic crash just waiting to happen. That is why top economists from around the world and outside the EU are recommending to stay away from the EU markets, they are tipping a recession within the next 3 to 5 years and the complete crash of the EU within 10 to 20 years. Italy is just about there and after brexit the EU will start the slide into oblivion.

Now luckily for some of the posters here and Leo fan club members the great German empire will once again be happy to accept Ireland's soul for another pot of gold right after we agree to take ship loads of immigrants that the German public no longer want in their country.

Honestly can't believe what this country has become of late with all the PC crap and the EU fan club. How is living under German rule any different than living under British rule, i mean really what did our previous generations fight for exactly?

Impeachment investigation of trump has just today been announced.
Pelosi said there’ll be no US UK trade deal if it’s a no deal brexit that threatens th GFA.
All trade deals have to be approved by the house before they can even start.
So the us uk ain’t happening if it’s no deal brexit.
But you keep living in your bubble. The real world and the facts maybe don’t suit your head canon you should probably have a look outside.
Even once and again

Stop moaning ffs

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

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Passports aren’t in fact checked throughout the schengen zone.

I’ve always been checked in the cities I’ve mentioned and others.
Maybe it’s cos I look forrin even do I’m irish

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Enter name here wrote: »

Sorry for the late reply but couldn't let this go unanswered.

The EU was never a peace arrangement, the EU was simple way of Germany to control Europe after 2 failed wars, they managed to succeed by economic means instead of a 3rd war. Countries like France you have very short memories and sold their countries for a pot of gold just like Ireland. The EU is nothing more than an extension of Germany and should be viewed for what is truly is which are member states of the German Empire.

It’s nothing like a German empire. The opposite in many ways, Germany wants to fade away in Europe.

Now the good news, once the UK leave the EU and establish trade deals with the US and together with the US start to undermine and already weakening EU the other member states will start to realise there is life after German rule and start there own referendums and start the process of leaving also.

There will be no trade deal with the US. The U.K. is just too insignificant.

The EU is already an economic crash just waiting to happen. That is why top economists from around the world and outside the EU are recommending to stay away from the EU markets, they are tipping a recession within the next 3 to 5 years and the complete crash of the EU within 10 to 20 years. Italy is just about there and after brexit the EU will start the slide into oblivion.

There are problems in the EU alright but it’s hardly that apocalyptic.

Now luckily for some of the posters here and Leo fan club members the great German empire will once again be happy to accept Ireland's soul for another pot of gold right after we agree to take ship loads of immigrants that the German public no longer want in their country.

There’s no real evidence that Germany is trying to ship immigrants to Ireland. That said merkel’s immigrant policy was highly destabilising.

Honestly can't believe what this country has become of late with all the PC crap and the EU fan club. How is living under German rule any different than living under British rule, i mean really what did our previous generations fight for exactly?

How is living under “German rule” different from living under British rule? We’re richer, not starving, not subject to penal laws, not getting shot at in peaceful demonstrations. I could go on.

As for PC ideologies, look west for the reason they have permeated Irish society not to Europe.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

I’ve always been checked in the cities I’ve mentioned and others.
Maybe it’s cos I look forrin even do I’m irish

You’ve been checked where? Walking around? Taking a train from Brussels? Crossing the Italian border from France?

Ireland is not in the schengen zone if that’s what confusing you.

And do you really think other people from Ireland weren’t checked.

8-10

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

I’ve always been checked in the cities I’ve mentioned and others.
Maybe it’s cos I look forrin even do I’m irish

Ireland isn't in Schengen so will be checked if you're entering from Ireland.

You don't get checked when travelling between 2 Schengen countries, even if you're Irish, are you saying you were checked doing this?

Stop moaning ffs

8-10 wrote: »

Ireland isn't in Schengen so will be checked if you're entering from Ireland.

You don't get checked when travelling between 2 Schengen countries, even if you're Irish, are you saying you were checked doing this?

Always Dublin to ______

8-10

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Always Dublin to ______

Well then you'd be checked as you're entering a Schengen country from a non-Schengen one.

Schengen countries are the following with no passport controls when you pass from one to the other: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and Switzerland

steddyeddy

Enter name here wrote: »

Sorry for the late reply but couldn't let this go unanswered.

The EU was never a peace arrangement, the EU was simple way of Germany to control Europe after 2 failed wars, they managed to succeed by economic means instead of a 3rd war. Countries like France you have very short memories and sold their countries for a pot of gold just like Ireland. The EU is nothing more than an extension of Germany and should be viewed for what is truly is which are member states of the German Empire.

Now the good news, once the UK leave the EU and establish trade deals with the US and together with the US start to undermine and already weakening EU the other member states will start to realise there is life after German rule and start there own referendums and start the process of leaving also. The EU is already an economic crash just waiting to happen. That is why top economists from around the world and outside the EU are recommending to stay away from the EU markets, they are tipping a recession within the next 3 to 5 years and the complete crash of the EU within 10 to 20 years. Italy is just about there and after brexit the EU will start the slide into oblivion.

Now luckily for some of the posters here and Leo fan club members the great German empire will once again be happy to accept Ireland's soul for another pot of gold right after we agree to take ship loads of immigrants that the German public no longer want in their country.

Honestly can't believe what this country has become of late with all the PC crap and the EU fan club. How is living under German rule any different than living under British rule, i mean really what did our previous generations fight for exactly?

You realise a trade deal has to go through the US House of Congress? Pelosi stated that any action that damages peace in Ireland will result in no trade deal.

splinter65

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

There will be no trade deal with the US. The U.K. is just too insignificant .

Are you insane? Why would you be making stuff up just to prove a point? The UK is the US 7th largest trading partner with $127 billion going between the 2.

Stop moaning ffs

splinter65 wrote: »

Are you insane? Why would you be making stuff up just to prove a point? The UK is the US 7th largest trading partner with $127 billion going between the 2.

Yes. Within the framework of being an Eu member currently.
If they do actually leave that all changes.
Pelosi said there’ll be no deal allowed by the house and even if they manage to the US is going to carve up the uk especially the NHS
https://www.cato.org/publications/white-paper/ideal-us-uk-free-trade-agreement-free-traders-perspective



‘As for other services areas, health services are an area where both sides would benefit from openness to foreign competition, although we recognize any changes to existing regulations will be extremely controversial. Perhaps, then, for other areas the initial focus should be on other fields such as education or legal services, where negotiators can test the waters and see what is possible. That said, we would envisage a swift, time-tabled implementation of recognition across all areas within 5 years."

Twenty Grand

splinter65 wrote: »

Are you insane? Why would you be making stuff up just to prove a point? The UK is the US 7th largest trading partner with $127 billion going between the 2.

And the EU minus the UK is the second largest.

steddyeddy

splinter65 wrote: »

Are you insane? Why would you be making stuff up just to prove a point? The UK is the US 7th largest trading partner with $127 billion going between the 2.

When they're within the single market! You can't compare current economic merits to a post-Brexit Britain.

Stop moaning ffs

8-10 wrote: »

Well then you'd be checked as you're entering a Schengen country from a non-Schengen one.

Schengen countries are the following with no passport controls when you pass from one to the other: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and Switzerland

So ireland is under a different set of rules for travel than Europe?

But I thought the EU were dictators and put all kinds of crazy rules on us?

Seems the rule about travel should be top of that list no?




100%sarcasm

Franz Von Peppercorn II

splinter65 wrote: »

Are you insane? Why would you be making stuff up just to prove a point? The UK is the US 7th largest trading partner with $127 billion going between the 2.

Being 7th of course often means that it’s a tiny fraction of the first two or three. These things tend to be a power distribution.


Trade with the U.K. 1/6 of China alone.

It’s far better to measure percentages of total trade. The U.K. is about 3% of the US total trade of ~$3.8T

The European Union is about $770B, although that includes the U.K. at the moment.

Twenty Grand

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Being 7th of course often means that it’s a tiny fraction of the first two or three.


Trade with the U.K. 1/6 of China alone.

It’s far better to measure percentages of total trade. The U.K. is about 3% of the US total trade of ~$3.8T

And this is facilitated under the US EU trade deal, which won't exist in 3 months for Britain and may well take years to renegotiate.

You can also guarantee the EU will have a hand in some protectionist clauses in whatever deal the US and UK come up with.

The UK has a service and high tech manufacturing based economy. Their only markets are industrialised countries.

No point talking about 168 non EU countries.
What the f"ck is Mauritius or the Seychelles going to do with UK exports? (These are 2 of the only 7 countries the UK has managed to sign trade deals with BTW)

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

So ireland is under a different set of rules for travel than Europe?

But I thought the EU were dictators and put all kinds of crazy rules on us?

Seems the rule about travel should be top of that list no?




100%sarcasm

Dude, stop digging that trench. You clearly know nothing about travel movement in the EU.

Stop moaning ffs

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Dude, stop digging that trench. You clearly know nothing about travel movement in the EU.

I was having a dig at the anti eu crowd here but it clearly went over head at a height. I’ve moved all around Europe by the way and it’s wonderful being able to.

Stop moaning ffs

Birth rates in Britain set to plummet overnight haha

Enter name here

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Impeachment investigation of trump has just today been announced.
Pelosi said there’ll be no US UK trade deal if it’s a no deal brexit that threatens th GFA.
All trade deals have to be approved by the house before they can even start.
So the us uk ain’t happening if it’s no deal brexit.
But you keep living in your bubble. The real world and the facts maybe don’t suit your head canon you should probably have a look outside.
Even once and again

Where is the link to Trump's so called impeachment? More dreams from the unwashed and left.
I must have slept through the US election where Nancy(friend to the unwashed and left) was elected new US president.
The UK is leaving i know its hard for you to accept but it is time for a reality check. And Trump has already stated on numerous occasions the US trade deal is as good as done and paperwork only needs drawing up.
And sorry the EU fan club here in Ireland are the ones living in there bubble under the rainbow next to Leo.

Stop moaning ffs

Enter name here wrote: »

Where is the link to Trump's so called impeachment? More dreams from the unwashed and left.
I must have slept through the US election where Nancy(friend to the unwashed and left) was elected new US president.
The UK is leaving i know its hard for you to accept but it is time for a reality check. And Trump has already stated on numerous occasions the US trade deal is as good as done and paperwork only needs drawing up.
And sorry the EU fan club here in Ireland are the ones living in there bubble under the rainbow next to Leo.

It’s all over the news today and you somehow missed it.
Impeachment investigations was what I said. Be careful to try read what was said.
Link
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/why-house-democrats-are-choosing-now-to-launch-impeachment-investigation?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app


As to your taking trumps word as gospel, you’re beyond help there I’m afraid. I’ve a huge statue for sale in New York while you’re buying everything anyone tells you

Enter name here

It’s nothing like a German empire. The opposite in many ways, Germany wants to fade away in Europe.

Absolute load of PC crap of course we are under German rule. Wake up before its too late.


There will be no trade deal with the US. The U.K. is just too insignificant.

The UK is the worlds 5th largest economy, as for being insignificant you are correct, that's exactly what the EU will become within 10 to 20 years.


There are problems in the EU alright but it’s hardly that apocalyptic.

The world's leading economists would strongly disagree with you and have issued warnings about the imminent crash of the euro.

There’s no real evidence that Germany is trying to ship immigrants to Ireland. That said merkel’s immigrant policy was highly destabilising.

Ireland just agreed to sign the new immigrant intake put forward by the Finnish people even after stated they wouldn't sign it. Again our values and traditions sold for another pot of gold from the overlords.

How is living under “German rule” different from living under British rule? We’re richer, not starving, not subject to penal laws, not getting shot at in peaceful demonstrations. I could go on.

Correct now we live under German rule and are subject to greater homeless than ever, lowest ever home owner rates, local gangs have more weapons than the Gardi and we cant really arrest anyone because it infringes on their human rights. And lastly we will be starving and unemployed after the EU crashes because we burned the UK with our holy than now attitude.

nthclare

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

It’s all over the news today and you somehow missed it.
Impeachment investigations was what I said. Be careful to try read what was said.
Link
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/why-house-democrats-are-choosing-now-to-launch-impeachment-investigation?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app


As to your taking trumps word as gospel, you’re beyond help there I’m afraid. I’ve a huge statue for sale in New York while you’re buying everything anyone tells you

That huge statue in New York is a statue of liberty, not freedom.

Liberty is not freedom, it's subject to capability and has limitations.

Very much like communism, there's no such thing as freedom especially in the liberal sense.

Sofiztikated

Enter name here wrote: »

Where is the link to Trump's so called impeachment? More dreams from the unwashed and left.
I must have slept through the US election where Nancy(friend to the unwashed and left) was elected new US president.
The UK is leaving i know its hard for you to accept but it is time for a reality check. And Trump has already stated on numerous occasions the US trade deal is as good as done and paperwork only needs drawing up.
And sorry the EU fan club here in Ireland are the ones living in there bubble under the rainbow next to Leo.

As good as done, except the paperwork? You mean just like Brexit?

Catch yourself on.

Enter name here

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

It’s all over the news today and you somehow missed it.
Impeachment investigations was what I said. Be careful to try read what was said.
Link
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/why-house-democrats-are-choosing-now-to-launch-impeachment-investigation?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app


As to your taking trumps word as gospel, you’re beyond help there I’m afraid. I’ve a huge statue for sale in New York while you’re buying everything anyone tells you

Nothing I have read on that mentions anything other than the normal dribble, they are considering impeaching Trump. Nowhere that i read does it state that it has began? Happy to be corrected please show me where though.

Stop moaning ffs

Enter name here wrote: »

Nothing I have read on that mentions anything other than the normal dribble, they are considering impeaching Trump. Nowhere that i read does it state that it has began? Happy to be corrected please show me where though.

You were already corrected in my original post. It’s. Right. There.

Jaysis it’s like talking to donkeys

Twenty Grand

Sofiztikated wrote: »

As good as done, except the paperwork? You mean just like Brexit?

Catch yourself on.

Trade deals take years to work out.
I wouldn't believe a word Trump says on it.

Also, Britain is at a major disadvantage in any negociation, so don't expect the terms to be favourable.

Sonny noggs

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

You were already corrected in my original post. It’s. Right. There.

Jaysis it’s like talking to donkeys

Jesus, pot kettle.

Enter name here

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

You were already corrected in my original post. It’s. Right. There.

Jaysis it’s like talking to donkeys

I misread your original statement fair enough. But they have been trying to impeach him for ages, how is this any different its an investigation that again will be unsuccessful but nice to see them keeping the dream alive for you.

Stop moaning ffs

Sonny noggs wrote: »

Jesus, pot kettle.

You again. Anything of substance to say? Pretty sure attacking a poster across multiple threads is not allowed. As lame as your attempts are.
Let’s report and find out shall we?

Sonny noggs

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

You again. Anything of substance to say? Pretty sure attacking a poster across multiple threads is not allowed. As lame as your attempts are.
Let’s report and find out shall we?

You really don’t like people calling out your spoofing.

Stop moaning ffs

Sonny noggs wrote: »

You really don’t like people calling out your spoofing.

Still waiting on evidence of that.

Still waiting on you to actually make a post that isn’t ‘at’ someone.

I’m here all day. Come on at me.

Stop moaning ffs

Enter name here wrote: »

I misread your original statement fair enough. But they have been trying to impeach him for ages, how is this any different its an investigation that again will be unsuccessful but nice to see them keeping the dream alive for you.

I don’t care either way. The Americans got what they deserved and are suffering for it. No skin off my nose at all.

Sonny noggs

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Still waiting on evidence of that.

Still waiting on you to actually make a post that isn’t ‘at’ someone.

I’m here all day. Come on at me.

Stop spoofing ffs.

Enter name here

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

You again. Anything of substance to say? Pretty sure attacking a poster across multiple threads is not allowed. As lame as your attempts are.
Let’s report and find out shall we?

Yes lets see, I am deeply offended by your very hurtful insult against me. Now I wont be able to walk into a field ever again through fear of seeing a donkey and reminding me constantly of your insult.

dudara

Cut out the bickering. Next poster who continues it will get carded.

And Trump’s potential impeachment can be discussed in one of the Trump threads.

dudara

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Enter name here wrote: »

It’s nothing like a German empire. The opposite in many ways, Germany wants to fade away in Europe.

Absolute load of PC crap of course we are under German rule. Wake up before its too late.

Saying it again doesn’t prove it. If we were under German rule then we’d be speaking, er, German. In fact your mind is still a british colony.

There will be no trade deal with the US. The U.K. is just too insignificant.

The UK is the worlds 5th largest economy, as for being insignificant you are correct, that's exactly what the EU will become within 10 to 20 years.

3% of US trade. The EU as a whole is the largest trade partner.

There are problems in the EU alright but it’s hardly that apocalyptic.

The world's leading economists would strongly disagree with you and have issued warnings about the imminent crash of the euro.

Your world’s leading economist was one bloke you linked to.

There’s no real evidence that Germany is trying to ship immigrants to Ireland. That said merkel’s immigrant policy was highly destabilising.

Ireland just agreed to sign the new immigrant intake put forward by the Finnish people even after stated they wouldn't sign it. Again our values and traditions sold for another pot of gold from the overlords.

Is Finland Germany now?

How is living under “German rule” different from living under British rule? We’re richer, not starving, not subject to penal laws, not getting shot at in peaceful demonstrations. I could go on.

Correct now we live under German rule and are subject to greater homeless than ever, lowest ever home owner rates, local gangs have more weapons than the Gardi and we cant really arrest anyone because it infringes on their human rights. And lastly we will be starving and unemployed after the EU crashes because we burned the UK with our holy than now attitude.

All of those issues are local failures precisely because the Germans aren’t ruling us. They run their own country well enough. Better healthcare. Fewer gangs. Better judiciary. Maybe they should run the place.

As for starving you may want to investigate which country is in food deficit and it’s not ireland. We import british food only because of the british super market supply chain which is (unlike the German super market chains here) bring in their processed food from the UK. M&S for instance entirely sources it’s packaged food from the U.K.

They will have to adapt as the Germans have by sourcing here. Meanwhile Ireland still has a huge market for its food in the EU.

If Britain has a trade war on food it will starve.

Funny enough I tend to dislike parts of the EU, including the half hearted attempt at the Euro but this kind of nonsense needs debunking.

blinding

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Birth rates in Britain set to plummet overnight haha

Brexit didn’t fook my wife :eek:;)

Franz Von Peppercorn II

U.K. stats on food sources from their very own government.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/food-statistics-pocketbook-2017/food-statistics-in-your-pocket-2017-global-and-uk-supply

50% of British food is imported.

Calhoun

The posturing the past few days has been great let's see where it gets them.

Stop moaning ffs

Calhoun wrote: »

The posturing the past few days has been great let's see where it gets them.

It won’t be even a managed climbdown.

It will be Boris falling from a great height for contradicting everything he said that got him here.


Old Irish proverb.

Busllh!t will get you to the top. But it won’t keep you there.

blinding

Calhoun wrote: »

The posturing the past few days has been great let's see where it gets them.

Who Leo and Simon :eek:;)

blinding

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

It won’t be even a managed climbdown.

It will be Boris falling from a great height for contradicting everything he said that got him here.


Old Irish proverb.

Busllh!t will get you to the top. But it won’t keep you there.

The reality of Irish politics from the 60’s does not back that up

BorneTobyWilde

I'm sure on D Day a lot of people in the UK and USA were thinking, wtf have we done. We've loss thousands upon thousands of lives, what a complete F C K U P!
But history looks back on it as a necessary catastrophe that led to the tide turning in World War 2, and in the end it brought freedom.
A No Deal will be tough, but give it a few years and they'll look back on it with pride, and they'll praise all those who had to suffer so that they could find their freedom from the EU. What ever hardship a No Deal brings, it will be worth it in years to come.
Boris will look like an idiot on OCT 31st if he takes them out, but history will look back on him kindly, and label him a hero for being brave enough to do it.

Stop moaning ffs

blinding wrote: »

The reality of Irish politics from the 60’s does not back that up

You’re clearly some bored bastard somewhere who doesn’t hand a clue but needs to be heard to make up for whatever you’re missing in life.

But if not you could at least get the facts right. Not like you have anything else to do.

dudara

Stop moaning ffs carded for ignoring mod warning to cut out the bickering.

dudara

Calhoun

blinding wrote: »

Who Leo and Simon :eek:;)

No Boris and Sammy Wilson, we have a legally binding backstop.

We don't need to posture only advise what would happen if the great British empire engaged in perfidious albion.

Calhoun

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

It won’t be even a managed climbdown.

It will be Boris falling from a great height for contradicting everything he said that got him here.


Old Irish proverb.

Busllh!t will get you to the top. But it won’t keep you there.

I cannot wait

blinding

Calhoun wrote: »

No Boris and Sammy Wilson, we have a legally binding backstop.

We don't need to posture only advise what would happen if the great British empire engaged in perfidious albion.

You don’t have a legally binding backstop if the British do not sign up to it which they won't;):P