British version of Trump becomes PM

ChikiChiki

The fact that he has not been in touch with Leo after a week is the height of disrespect to all of us. Colonial UK mindset is well and truly back. I just hope the EU stick with us but in reality we are only 4.7m out of 500m people this I'd be fearful of getting thrown under the bus.

blinding

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

This man needs to receive my look of contempt. He needs to see it with his eyeballs.

I am sure he is really bothered:D

Stevieluvsye

ChikiChiki wrote: »

The fact that he has not been in touch with Leo after a week is the height of disrespect to all of us. Colonial UK mindset is well and truly back. I just hope the EU stick with us but in reality we are only 4.7m out of 500m people this I'd be fearful of getting thrown under the bus.

He said what he had to say out loud to everyone in the EU

What exactly is he supposed to get in touch with us about?

blinding

ChikiChiki wrote: »

The fact that he has not been in touch with Leo after a week is the height of disrespect to all of us. Colonial UK mindset is well and truly back. I just hope the EU stick with us but in reality we are only 4.7m out of 500m people this I'd be fearful of getting thrown under the bus.

Usually foreign Leaders ring to congratulate a new Leader on their appointment .

Apparently Leo has been busy on his photoshoots :eek:

ChikiChiki

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

ChikiChiki wrote: »

The fact that he has not been in touch with Leo after a week is the height of disrespect to all of us. Colonial UK mindset is well and truly back. I just hope the EU stick with us but in reality we are only 4.7m out of 500m people this I'd be fearful of getting thrown under the bus.

He said what he had to say out loud to everyone in the EU

What exactly is he supposed to get in touch with us about?

Leaving aside the EU leaders, Anglo-Irish relations. Unique in the scheme of things. People of NI are not pawns.

Enter name here

CURRENCY VALUE CHANGE NET CHANGE TIME (EDT)
EUR-USD
1.1142 -0.0003 -0.03% 5:08 AM
USD-JPY
108.5500 -0.2300 -0.21% 5:09 AM
GBP-USD
1.2180 -0.0039 -0.32% 5:09 AM
AUD-USD
0.6889 -0.0013 -0.19% 5:09 AM
USD-CAD
1.3175 0.0011 +0.08% 5:08 AM
USD-CHF
0.9906 -0.0010 -0.10% 5:08 AM
EUR-JPY
120.9600 -0.2500 -0.21% 5:08 AM
EUR-GBP
0.9147 0.0026 +0.28% 5:08 AM
USD-HKD
7.8218 -0.0006 -0.01% 5:09 AM
EUR-CHF
1.1038 -0.0013 -0.12% 5:08 AM
USD-KRW
1,181.9000 -1.5600 -0.13% 2:29 AM


If that doesn't highlight the EU manipulating financial markets, I'll grow wings and fly to the moon.

Stevieluvsye

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Leaving aside the EU leaders, Anglo-Irish relations. Unique in the scheme of things. People of NI are not pawns.

He said the backstop has to go. IPSO FACTO

ohnonotgmail

Enter name here wrote: »

CURRENCY VALUE CHANGE NET CHANGE TIME (EDT)
EUR-USD
1.1142 -0.0003 -0.03% 5:08 AM
USD-JPY
108.5500 -0.2300 -0.21% 5:09 AM
GBP-USD
1.2180 -0.0039 -0.32% 5:09 AM
AUD-USD
0.6889 -0.0013 -0.19% 5:09 AM
USD-CAD
1.3175 0.0011 +0.08% 5:08 AM
USD-CHF
0.9906 -0.0010 -0.10% 5:08 AM
EUR-JPY
120.9600 -0.2500 -0.21% 5:08 AM
EUR-GBP
0.9147 0.0026 +0.28% 5:08 AM
USD-HKD
7.8218 -0.0006 -0.01% 5:09 AM
EUR-CHF
1.1038 -0.0013 -0.12% 5:08 AM
USD-KRW
1,181.9000 -1.5600 -0.13% 2:29 AM


If that doesn't highlight the EU manipulating financial markets, I'll grow wings and fly to the moon.

what is your point?

blinding

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Leaving aside the EU leaders, Anglo-Irish relations. Unique in the scheme of things. People of NI are not pawns.

Eu / Leo should’t be using them as such .

steddyeddy

blinding wrote: »

Excellent for Exports and Tourism and British people will holiday at home .

Yes, they won't have a choice soon.

Enter name here

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

what is your point?

All markets down bar one, except the EU against the pound which seems to buck the world trend at the moment. Can't get Boris to the table the conventional way manipulate the market to make your argument stronger on why not to leave.

blinding

steddyeddy wrote: »

Yes, they won't have a choice soon.

Peak district , Lake district , Cornwall beaches , Scottish Highlands , North Wales etc etc . Great places for holidays .

8-10

There's always Gibraltar

ILoveYourVibes

blinding wrote: »

I am sure he is really bothered:D

He is in his eyeballs!

ohnonotgmail

Enter name here wrote: »

All markets down bar one, except the EU against the pound which seems to buck the world trend at the moment. Can't get Boris to the table the conventional way manipulate the market to make your argument stronger on why not to leave.

clearly you understand very little if you think makes some sort of point.

steddyeddy

8-10 wrote: »

There's always Gibraltar

Yep. More than 95% voted to remain in the EU and they're currently calling for a second referendum. They'll be a rule taker after Brexit. This is everything the Spanish could have hoped for.

In fact I'm starting to think that Brexit was funded by the SNP, Sinn Fein and the Spanish government.

quokula

Enter name here wrote: »

All markets down bar one, except the EU against the pound which seems to buck the world trend at the moment. Can't get Boris to the table the conventional way manipulate the market to make your argument stronger on why not to leave.

You realise that they are exchange rates and not markets?

None of them are "down", the currencies being compared, in the order they're being listed, have dropped in value.

Instead of listing GBP-USD, it could have listed USD-GBP, and all of a sudden that "market" would be "up"

If this is the argument you're resorting too, you might want to have a rethink.

ILoveYourVibes

Well there is only one thing to say really.

Obviously this whole situation is going to be ten times the farce it already was now.

That's it.

Laois_Man

ChikiChiki wrote: »

The fact that he has not been in touch with Leo after a week is the height of disrespect to all of us. Colonial UK mindset is well and truly back. I just hope the EU stick with us but in reality we are only 4.7m out of 500m people this I'd be fearful of getting thrown under the bus.

The reason he has not been in touch with Leo is the same reason he won't meet with EU leaders. He knows he is holding a ludicrous position and he is saving himself some embarrassment!

As for getting thrown under the bus - we've been hearing that now for 2-years and still nobody has outlined under what mechanism we even could be thrown under any bus

ambro25

8-10 wrote: »

There's always Gibraltar

Malvinas aren't too bad this time of year, less competition from penguins for room on the beaches.

Looking forward to shopping for Spanish and French flats and villas going cheap for a quick sale this autumn.

steddyeddy

Boris Johnson in Scotland as Sturgeon criticised his aiming for a no deal Brexit. Ruth Davidson, Scottish Mp couldn't even answer if Boris was bad or good for the Scottish Tory party. Also people who were former Scottish unionists state that they changed their mind as Boris is a complete idiot they don't trust.

https://www.channel4.com/news/fts-katie-martin-no-economist-or-trader-alive-thinks-sterling-can-get-through-brexit-without-getting-punched-in-the-face

blinding

steddyeddy wrote: »

Boris Johnson in Scotland as Sturgeon criticised his aiming for a no deal Brexit. Ruth Davidson, Scottish Mp couldn't even answer if Boris was bad or good for the Scottish Tory party. Also people who were former Scottish unionists state that they changed their mind as Boris is a complete idiot they don't trust.

https://www.channel4.com/news/fts-katie-martin-no-economist-or-trader-alive-thinks-sterling-can-get-through-brexit-without-getting-punched-in-the-face

Channel 4 is not neutral on Brexit . Its also a leftie outlet .

Check youtube for Kathy Newman making a complete plonker of herself in an interview with Jordon Peterson . What an embarrassment that was .

Channel4 lost a lot of credibility after that . Any pretence on being unbiased was washed away .

steddyeddy

No offence but that's no different than any other conspiracy theorist's post. Every channel is reporting the same. I suggest learn to look at the sources yourself. The interviews with Sturgeon and Davidson and you'll be better informed.

blinding

steddyeddy wrote: »

No offence but that's no different than any other conspiracy theorist's post. Every channel is reporting the same. I suggest learn to look at the sources yourself. The interviews with Sturgeon and Davidson and you'll be better informed.

Channel 4 is not neutral on Brexit . I don’t think they would even deny it themselves .

It gives the news from a leftie feminist point of view . Again , I don’t think they would deny this themselves .

steddyeddy

blinding wrote: »

Channel 4 is not neutral on Brexit . I don’t think they would even deny it themselves .

It gives the news from a leftie feminist point of view . Again , I don’t think they would deny this themselves .

Again you're doing it wrong. Look at the things presented as facts in each report and deal with them. Otherwise it appears you're unable to comprehend them and instead attack the messenger. It's one of the reasons there's a rule against attacking the poster here. People unable to deal with the points use that as a defence.

rob316

ChikiChiki wrote: »

The fact that he has not been in touch with Leo after a week is the height of disrespect to all of us. Colonial UK mindset is well and truly back. I just hope the EU stick with us but in reality we are only 4.7m out of 500m people this I'd be fearful of getting thrown under the bus.

They can't throw us under a bus if they do that the EU collapses. Unity is the only way the EU come out of this.

blinding

steddyeddy wrote: »

Again you're doing it wrong. Look at the things presented as facts in each report and deal with them. Otherwise it appears you're unable to comprehend them and instead attack the messenger. It's one of the reasons there's a rule against attacking the poster here. People unable to deal with the points use that as a defence.

We are going to have to agree to disagree on channel 4 .

Anything they produce is tainted from the bias they are coming from . No different than CNN or FOX News in their own way .

Why would anyone put credence on output that is coming from a biased broadcaster . They have an agenda and they promote that agenda .

I for one would love to go back to when broadcasters presented un-biased facts and let the viewers / listeners / readers make up their own mind .

Those days are long gone . There was a time when you would not know / have great difficulty guessing the presenters / journalists own views .

Sadly these days are long gone .

steddyeddy

blinding wrote: »

We are going to have to agree to disagree on channel 4 .

Anything they produce is tainted from the bias they are coming from . No different than CNN or FOX News in their own way .

Why would anyone put credence on output that is coming from a biased broadcaster . They have an agenda and they promote that agenda .

I for one would love to go back to when broadcasters presented un-biased facts and let the viewers / listeners / readers make up their own mind .

Those days are long gone . There was a time when you would not know / have great difficulty guessing the presenters / journalists own views .

Sadly these days are long gone .

But you're clearly biased and also unable to analyse the facts. So I can't take your posts any more serious than those from the conspiracy theory forum.

blinding

steddyeddy wrote: »

But you're clearly biased and also unable to analyse the facts. So I can't take your posts any more serious than those from the conspiracy theory forum.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Bias+of+channel+4

Just a sample .

Channel 4 are no more credible than CNN and Fox News .

Stevieluvsye

Sky News i find is Neutral.

Sophy Ridge on Sunday is an excellent watch and not afraid to ask either side difficult questions.

With regards Channel 4 news, i actually find them slightly more centrist right. I have seen Corbyn and Jon Snow get in to some ding dongs in the past, although i am talking specifically about C4news and not any other programmes it airs.

Actually dispatches usually swings a bit to the left

Twenty Grand

My search results are:
The Telegraph
The Sun
The Express
Conservapedia
The Spectator.

All these are arguably right wing sources. So what's it to be?
You can't dismiss a source because they're left leaning, and justify yourself using one which is right leaning.

NKante

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Sky News i find is Neutral.

Sophy Ridge on Sunday is an excellent watch and not afraid to ask either side difficult questions.

With regards Channel 4 news, i actually find them slightly more centrist right. I have seen Corbyn and Jon Snow get in to some ding dongs in the past, although i am talking specifically about C4news and not any other programmes it airs.

Actually dispatches usually swings a bit to the left

Are you mental?

Enter name here

Leo finally got his call today. Thanks for the heads up Leo, apparently Boris said there will no be negotiations until the backstop is removed and the UK are leaving on the 31st end of story. If negotiations are to be held it will be after the backstop is removed all together.

I'm so glad we have a leader like Leo to clear things up for us, up until today I was so confused as to what the UK were going to do under Boris's leadership.

On a side note, how are those Irish bonds working out for us Leo?

Professor Moriarty

Enter name here wrote: »

Leo finally got his call today. Thanks for the heads up Leo, apparently Boris said there will no be negotiations until the backstop is removed and the UK are leaving on the 31st end of story. If negotiations are to be held it will be after the backstop is removed all together.

I'm so glad we have a leader like Leo to clear things up for us, up until today I was so confused as to what the UK were going to do under Boris's leadership.

On a side note, how are those Irish bonds working out for us Leo?

Bonds are working out fine. Excellent, in fact.

Calhoun

Thats fair enough, hard brexit it is so.

Enter name here

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Bonds are working out fine. Excellent, in fact.

Yes so much market confidence around at the moment, on the back of Leo's call we suffered our largest single day slump in almost 8 months down 2.2%.
Instead of trying to burn our closest neighbour and trading partner why don't we step up and try and protect our own interest instead of being German puppets.

Professor Moriarty

Enter name here wrote: »

Yes so much market confidence around at the moment, on the back of Leo's call we suffered our largest single day slump in almost 8 months down 2.2%.
Instead of trying to burn our closest neighbour and trading partner why don't we step up and try and protect our own interest instead of being German puppets.

Compared to today, let me know how the bonds were doing six months ago, July 2018, July 2014, July 2009. In your own time.

Enter name here

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Compared to today, let me know how the bonds were doing six months ago, July 2018, July 2014, July 2009. In your own time.

I'm more interested in our future than our past. We are going to be sold down the river by Germany and no one can see it coming.

Professor Moriarty

Enter name here wrote: »

I'm more interested in our future than our past. We are going to be sold down the river by Germany and no one can see it coming.

I'll answer my own question. Our 10 year bond yield today was 0.183. July 2018: 0.904. July 2014: 2.22. July 2009: 4.96. Bonds are doing fine, contrary to what you claimed.

Enter name here

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

I'll answer my own question. Our 10 year bond yield today was 0.183. July 2018: 0.904. July 2014: 2.22. July 2009: 4.96. Bonds are doing fine, contrary to what you claimed.

Well thought out and explained. Now care to explain today's market crash also?

steddyeddy

Enter name here wrote: »

I'm more interested in our future than our past. We are going to be sold down the river by Germany and no one can see it coming.

How would that look?

steddyeddy

Enter name here wrote: »

Well thought out and explained. Now care to explain today's market crash also?

A man who many describe as of low IQ is at the helm of the UK and carrying out a plan that every serious economist says will damage the UK beyond recognition. It's simple.

Danzy

Laois_Man wrote: »

Not really sure what the point is. There has always been recessions and there always will be. It’s a natural cycle not unique to the EU. There’s nothing genius about it.

The problems in the Eurozone are more than normal economic cycles.

Normal in post 90s Japan, maybe.

Enter name here

steddyeddy wrote: »

A man who many describe as of low IQ is at the helm of the UK and carrying out a plan that every serious economist says will damage the UK beyond recognition. It's simple.

I suppose it depends on what you read and who you believe. Ireland will be the big loser in this equation, to believe anything else if crazy.
The UK will be fine, it was before the EU and will be again after exiting. Us on the other hand have very short memories. Who was one of the first countries to bail us out last time?

Professor Moriarty

Enter name here wrote: »

Well thought out and explained. Now care to explain today's market crash also?

Thanks you. What crash?

Danzy

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

I'll answer my own question. Our 10 year bond yield today was 0.183. July 2018: 0.904. July 2014: 2.22. July 2009: 4.96. Bonds are doing fine, contrary to what you claimed.

That is actually very serious.

It is more serious than if they went the other way in time.

Nice that we can borrow cheap to handle the massive debt we were loaded with but the problem is people are buying 10 yr bonds knowing they'll lose value, that is serious and shows the deflationary risk in the Eurozone.

Bond prices are more out of touch with normality than the crazy days of 2005 was with borrowing.

Enter name here

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Thanks you. What crash?

The 2.2% hit our stock market took today, already stated before you must have missed that one.

steddyeddy

Enter name here wrote: »

I suppose it depends on what you read and who you believe. Ireland will be the big loser in this equation, to believe anything else if crazy.
The UK will be fine, it was before the EU and will be again after exiting. Us on the other hand have very short memories. Who was one of the first countries to bail us out last time?

Well put it this way. You said you bought your house from proceeds from a bet over Trump becoming president. So in terms of belief I don't believe your posts.

Prior to joining the EU the UK was close to bankruptcy. It then availed of the largest loan in the history of the IMF.

Professor Moriarty

Danzy wrote: »

That is actually very serious.

It is more serious than if they went the other way in time.

Nice that we can borrow cheap to handle the massive debt we were loaded with but the problem is people are buying 10 yr bonds knowing they'll lose value, that is serious and shows the deflationary risk in the Eurozone.

Bond prices are more out of touch with normality than the crazy days of 2005 was with borrowing.

Of course there are various tensions that could affect our yields but I'll take the low yields, that we've had for a number of years, for as long as we can have them.

Professor Moriarty

Enter name here wrote: »

The 2.2% hit our stock market took today, already stated before you must have missed that one.

That's a crash? But the Iseq was lower a few weeks ago? And a few months ago? And a few months before that? You'll have to explain this to me.