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US congresswoman states America should be "more fearful of white men"

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    #1112
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,483 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Not to mention the climbing deficit and national debt. He will bankrupt the US if this trajectory were to continue through a 2nd term. Slapping tariffs on US importers and using the money to bail out soybean farmers. I must be missing the genius; this guy pledged to eliminate the national debt, and keep GDP above 3% (already broken). Must be true what they say about the IQ of the MAGA brigade.


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    #1113
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    You don't follow the stock markets so?
    Him 'ordering' U.S. companies to stop doing business with China...hilarious.
    China is not all that the economy is about. What about unemployment, manufacturing rebound, job creation. And the China thing is a short term hit because of the trade tit-for-tat going on in negotiations. When it's resolved watch the DOW jump up. But I’m sure you will credit Obama for it once it does.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #1114
    Billy Mays
    Registered Users Posts: 3,237 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Turns out Ilhan Omar does believe in separating families after all.

    https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1166418612996866048

    People who defend Donald "grab them by the pussy" Trump on a regular basis expect us to condemn the Ilhan for entering into a consensual relationship?

    Seriously we're not that stupid Pete!
    To be fair Donski has had consensual relations aswell. Barebacking a pornstar weeks after his wife gave birth being one example


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    #1115
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,483 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    notobtuse wrote: »
    China is not all that the economy is about. What about unemployment, manufacturing rebound, job creation. And the China thing is a short term hit because of the trade tit-for-tat going on in negotiations. When it's resolved watch the DOW jump up. But I’m sure you will credit Obama for it once it does.

    Real wages have stagnated, and many of the jobs being created are boosted by numbers from the Gig economy. Even a few hours of DoorDash a week, you will be reported as self-employed.

    For a “short term hit” this trade war with China has been going on for 18 months and shows no sign of cooling off.

    The national debt is growing still at a rate of $1T/year under Trump. That’s before you dive into the nitty gritty of the cost of his policies, like the tax cuts or the extinction of the estate tax, which will end up costing the country far more in the long run. Not seeing the business genius that was promised.


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    #1116
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    To be fair Donski has had consensual relations aswell. Barebacking a pornstar weeks after his wife gave birth being one example
    Perhaps you should read more closely. The issues… It is being reported that Omar married her brother to scam the immigration process to get her brother into the country, then while professing devout Muslim ideals does things, consensual mind you, that would get her stoned in the country she came from for sins against the religion she professes, and how she uses that faith against those who criticize her. Seems if it weren't for double standards, the left wouldn't have any standards at all.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #1117
    hetuzozaho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Perhaps you should read more closely. The issues… It is being reported that Omar married her brother to scam the immigration process to get her brother into the country, then while professing devout Muslim ideals does things, consensual mind you, that would get her stoned in the country she came from for sins against the religion she professes, and how she uses that faith against those who criticize her. Seems if it weren't for double standards, the left wouldn't have any standards at all.

    Trump did what to a porn star?


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    #1118
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    Trump did what to a porn star?
    If allegations are correct relations BEFORE taking office... unlike Bill Clinton, Lyndon B Johnson and John F Kennedy who seemingly treated the oval office as their private sex dens.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #1119
    hetuzozaho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    notobtuse wrote: »
    If allegations are correct relations BEFORE taking office... unlike Bill Clinton, Lyndon B Johnson and John F Kennedy who seemingly treated the oval office as their private sex dens.

    Deplorable carry on from Trump and them isn't it


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    #1120
    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Perhaps you should read more closely. The issues… It is being reported that Omar married her brother to scam the immigration process to get her brother into the country, then while professing devout Muslim ideals does things, consensual mind you, that would get her stoned in the country she came from for sins against the religion she professes, and how she uses that faith against those who criticize her. Seems if it weren't for double standards, the left wouldn't have any standards at all.

    Hang on, she married her own brother? Are they genetically related or is one adopted / fostered?


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    #1121
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    notobtuse wrote: »
    China is not all that the economy is about. What about unemployment, manufacturing rebound, job creation. And the China thing is a short term hit because of the trade tit-for-tat going on in negotiations. When it's resolved watch the DOW jump up. But I’m sure you will credit Obama for it once it does.

    You're being selective. If the stock market isn't related to the economy maybe you're right ;)

    Yeah totally, Obama :)
    You realise I'm not American? You should know I think the Democrats are too right wing. Trump is what we call a chancer. May your God bless you if you genuinely believe half the nonsense you spout.


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    #1122
    hetuzozaho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    You're being selective. If the stock market isn't related to the economy maybe you're right ;)

    Yeah totally, Obama :)
    You realise I'm not American? You should know I think the Democrats are too right wing. Trump is what we call a chancer. May your God bless you if you genuinely believe half the nonsense you spout.

    You have to pick a side :) haha


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    #1123
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Sonny noggs wrote: »
    Hang on, she married her own brother? Are they genetically related or is one adopted / fostered?
    Reports indicate she married her own biological brother. She and her family refuse to answer questions on the subject.

    https://alphanewsmn.com/city-pages-expose-omar-family-secrets/
    https://www.city-journal.org/html/curious-case-ilhan-omar-14724.html

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #1124
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Reports indicate she married her own brother. She and her family refuse to answer questions on the subject.

    https://alphanewsmn.com/city-pages-expose-omar-family-secrets/
    https://www.city-journal.org/html/curious-case-ilhan-omar-14724.html

    absolutely disgusting.


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    #1125
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    absolutely disgusting.
    Personally I do not think the marriage was one of intimacy. But done instead to scam the US immigration process and get her supposed brother/husband into the US... which IS illegal and should be investigated.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #1126
    Overheal
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    If allegations are correct relations BEFORE taking office... unlike Bill Clinton, Lyndon B Johnson and John F Kennedy who seemingly treated the oval office as their private sex dens.

    Did Omar reportedly allegedly marry her own brother while in office, supposedly?


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    #1127
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Personally I do not think the marriage was one of intimacy. But done instead to scam the US immigration process and get her supposed brother/husband into the US... which IS illegal and should be investigated.

    either way, absolutely horrific no matter what it is.


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    #1128
    Overheal
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    either way, absolutely horrific no matter what it is.

    Allegedly.

    There is no evidence to support the accusation - which is years old.


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    #1129
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    notobtuse wrote: »
    That deductive cognitive wherewithal must have a short-circuit because as it turns out Trump was what was best for the economy of the country.

    How could anyone who knows about American politics think that a Republican president could be good for the economy? 18 out of 19 of the poorest states are Republican controlled. Wanting a good economy and voting Republican is the stupidest thing someone could do.
    Eighteen of the 19 poorest states have legislatures where both chambers are Republican controlled. New Mexico (46th richest, fifth poorest) is Democratic. But there isn’t another blue or purple state until you get to purple Maine (31st richest, 20th poorest) with its “split” legislature of one party in each chamber. All the states in between (such as Tennessee and Florida) are Republican, both chambers. So is Michigan, where Republicans hold all high state offices (where Donald Trump won in 2016). Above New Mexico, you jump all the way to middle of the pack Vermont (27th richest, 24th poorest) to find a state with both legislative chambers held by Democrats.


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    #1130
    Rufeo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭Rufeo


    How's this US story relevant to us here in Ireland?


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    #1131
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    either way, absolutely horrific no matter what it is.

    Is it real Eric? It's worth reading this study on Conservatives being gullible:
    Significant evidence suggests that fake news and misinformation impact, for the moment at least, predominantly the right side of the political spectrum (e.g., Lazer n.d., Benkler, 2017).


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    #1132
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    How could anyone who knows about American politics think that a Republican president could be good for the economy? 18 out of 19 of the poorest states are Republican controlled. Wanting a good economy and voting Republican is the stupidest thing someone could do.
    Is the cost of living far lower in those poorest states compared to the cost of living in the richest states? You do realize cost of living has a tremendous impact on the terms poor and rich.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #1133
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,483 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Rufeo wrote: »
    How's this US story relevant to us here in Ireland?

    Current affair, in my humble opinion.

    Plenty of ‘yanks’ and ‘expats’ on the website to discuss this.


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    #1134
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Is it real Eric? It's worth reading this study on Conservatives being gullible:
    Like Elizabeth Warren and other democratic hopefuls continuously repeating the lie and fake news of “hands up, don’t shoot?"

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #1135
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,483 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Is the cost of living far lower in those poorest states compared to the cost of living in the richest states? You do realize cost of living has a tremendous impact on the terms poor and rich.

    We can do it by net contributors and net takers from the federal treasury if you prefer? Republican states make up a disproportionate amount of the “taker” states, that pay pennies against the dollars they receive in federal handouts. South Carolina being one of the worst, and at the bottom in education rankings. So, if the insinuation is that people living in Republican states are just more frugally savvy or something I’m here to tell you that isn’t it.


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    #1136
    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Reports indicate she married her own biological brother. She and her family refuse to answer questions on the subject.

    https://alphanewsmn.com/city-pages-expose-omar-family-secrets/
    https://www.city-journal.org/html/curious-case-ilhan-omar-14724.html

    That’s not good. I hope it wasn’t consummated.


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    #1137
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Is the cost of living far lower in those poorest states compared to the cost of living in the richest states? You do realize cost of living has a tremendous impact on the terms poor and rich.

    It does indeed. There's a low cost of living because people who live there make sweet f all. Just like in Africa.


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    #1138
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,483 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I think you were right about gullible conservatives, Steddyeddy


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    #1139
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Is US dollars...

    Rich:
    Average salary in New Jersey $64,621. Average cost of home in New Jersey $300,000. Average property tax bill in New Jersey $8,690.

    Poor:
    Average salary in Mississippi $43,529. Average cost of home in Mississippi $98,000. Average property tax bill in Mississippi $508.

    Now... who is really rich and who is really poor?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #1140
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,483 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Is US dollars...

    Rich:
    Average salary in New Jersey $64,621. Average cost of home in New Jersey $300,000. Average property tax bill in New Jersey $8,690.

    Poor:
    Average salary in Mississippi $43,529. Average cost of home in Mississippi $98,000. Average property tax bill in Mississippi $508.

    Now... who is really rich and who is really poor?
    Median too, please.

    Nobody builds $12 million mansions in Mississippi- not at near the rate of NJ. Average is easy to skew.


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    #1141
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users Posts: 2,502 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Is US dollars...

    Rich:
    Average salary in New Jersey $64,621. Average cost of home in New Jersey $300,000. Average property tax bill in New Jersey $8,690.

    Poor:
    Average salary in Mississippi $43,529. Average cost of home in Mississippi $98,000. Average property tax bill in Mississippi $508.

    Now... who is really rich and who is really poor?

    That should be copied and pasted every time steddy brings up that topic.


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