Horrific way to go

magic_murph

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/loving-and-caring-grandmother-attacked-by-her-sons-dogs-died-of-massive-injuries-inquest-hears-38348429.html

Why anybody in Ireland has three of these type of dog is madness.

Hector Savage

It's a sure sign of a knuckle dragging moronic ape when you see these dogs.

Tasfasdf

Hector Savage wrote: »

It's a sure sign of a knuckle dragging moronic ape when you see these dogs.

McDonagh

razorblunt

"Didn't know they were dangerous" the wife says.
"I bought them after there were break ins, in the area" says the husband.
The owner here sounds like a right gowl.


Presumably he thought they'd be able to call Gardaí when intruders came or maybe cuddle them into submission.


Awful way to go, poor woman. The first responders were traumatised too.

magic_murph

Great house pet.

ILoveYourVibes

A girl around the corner from me has one and a boxer. She works at an animal shelter so I presume she brought him home.

She walks him twice a day and the other one separately. The boxer gets walked with no muzzle but the mastiff has one.

They don't have great lives. Anytime they are out they must wear a muzzle.

She is very careful with him and crosses the street when she sees a child if she is walking him etc.

The only person I have ever seen the dog actually bark and growl at is HER.

The boxer seems to be fine though.

eviltwin

magic_murph wrote: »

Great house pet.

Poor woman didn't stand a chance

blackwhite

Tasfasdf wrote: »

McDonagh

Common enough name in Galway without the "ethnic" connotations

thomasm

So whats the best thing to do if a dog is attacking you and you cant get away. Go for the eyes, throat, legs??

Fr_Dougal

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

A girl around the corner from me has one and a boxer. She works at an animal shelter so I presume she brought him home.

She walks him twice a day and the other one separately. The boxer gets walked with no muzzle but the mastiff has one.

They don't have great lives. Anytime they are out they must wear a muzzle.

She is very careful with him and crosses the street when she sees a child if she is walking him etc.

The only person I have ever seen the dog actually bark and growl at is HER.

The boxer seems to be fine though.

Boxers don’t need to wear a muzzle.

You don’t have to reply to every. Single. Thread.

callaway92

Fairly upsetting reading that.

I'll never forget seeing my cat being killed by two prick dogs like these belonging to a neighbour that got out of their garden and ran into mine (country road)..

Was in my early 20s and it was frightening.

If I tried to stop it they'd have attacked me.

retro:electro

magic_murph wrote: »

Great house pet.

The fcuking thing has muscles :eek:

Hector Savage

magic_murph wrote: »

Great house pet.

Jesus, is it on steroids ??

EmmetSpiceland

thomasm wrote: »

So whats the best thing to do if a dog is attacking you and you cant get away. Go for the eyes, throat, legs??

The eyes would definitely be a “weak point”.

I heard long ago that the thing to do if a Rottweiler is attacking you is to stick your finger up it’s arse.
Apparently, this causes the dog’s jaw to “lock” open and you can get away.

I’m pretty it’s bullshít but I figure if I’m ever in that situation, of being attacked, I’ll give it a go. But I’d go for the eyes first.

Hector Savage

thomasm wrote: »

So whats the best thing to do if a dog is attacking you and you cant get away. Go for the eyes, throat, legs??

I hear if you tickle their balls they start laughing so much they just roll over - then you make your escape.

ILoveYourVibes

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Boxers don’t need to wear a muzzle.

You don’t have to reply to every. Single. Thread.

I ...KNOW ..that is why i said ..the boxer walks with no muzzle.

You don't have to reply to every post i post like you seem to be doing compulsively and rather ignorantly quite frankly.

Its bullying and its not on.

You don't like what I post use the IGNORE BUTTON! By the way i have just used it on you.

thomasm

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

stick your finger up it’s arse.

Hector Savage wrote: »

I hear if you tickle their balls they start laughing so much they just roll over - then you make your escape.

I'll keep those suggestions in mind

ILoveYourVibes

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

The only person I have ever seen the dog actually bark and growl at is HER.

I thought this is really interesting though. It doesn't bark even when others come to the house. It does bark at her occasionally though.

She seems kind of nervous with it when she is out walking.

Tasfasdf

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I thought this is really interesting though. It doesn't bark even when others come to the house. It does bark at her occasionally though.

She seems kind of nervous with it when she is out walking.

Why are you having a conversation with yourself?

Who posts and quotes themselves lol

jam_mac_jam

Tasfasdf wrote: »

McDonagh

This board is getting really scummy. Don't even make your point just be snakey about it.


The woman is dead.

ILoveYourVibes

Tasfasdf wrote: »

Why are you having a conversation with yourself?

Who posts and quotes themselves lol

Because I don't want to have one with you?

Doctors room ghost

Rip to the woman.
Horrific way to end up.
Having that type of dog roaming free was idiotic to say the least and the bit about them breeding 20 or 30 pups “incidentally” is absolute boll1x.a handy earner tax free more like.why was he microchipping the pups only then?
If it happened once you would have them neutered after.
Fcuk sake they were bursting van tyres and still kept and left roam.absoloute idiocy.
Tragic for the woman who died.
Totally irresponsible from the owner though and he was warned several times of their dangerous capabilities.

Stevieluvsye

As the owner of large Malamute i can relate to some of the replies in this thread.

Whenever i am walking her i will cross the road if i see a person on the same side and even more so if they have a dog. Unfortunately as a rescue dog she doesn't mix well with any dog and a lot of humans so you need to be so careful.

I had an incident were the front door was left open and she bolted as she could obviously smell another dog, happened to be a terrier type but she had it by the next, thankfully i got out on time to get the other dog released. But my dog didn't listen to verbal instructiion so i had to hit her a few clatters in the head (she has a head like concrete in case animal rights are here), thankfully the other dog was fine but the owner was really shaken up and understandably so.

My point is that you must always ensure you have your dogs kept away from any potential dangers to other animals or humans as this tragic case shows

RIP

fqollere

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

As the owner of large Malamute i can relate to some of the replies in this thread.

Whenever i am walking her i will cross the road if i see a person on the same side and even more so if they have a dog. Unfortunately as a rescue dog she doesn't mix well with any dog and a lot of humans so you need to be so careful.

I had an incident were the front door was left open and she bolted as she could obviously smell another dog, happened to be a terrier type but she had it by the next, thankfully i got out on time to get the other dog released. But my dog didn't listen to verbal instructiion so i had to hit her a few clatters in the head (she has a head like concrete in case animal rights are here), thankfully the other dog was fine but the owner was really shaken up and understandably so.

My point is that you must always ensure you have your dogs kept away from any potential dangers to other animals or humans as this tragic case shows

RIP

Lol

ILoveYourVibes

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

As the owner of large Malamute i can relate to some of the replies in this thread.

Whenever i am walking her i will cross the road if i see a person on the same side and even more so if they have a dog. Unfortunately as a rescue dog she doesn't mix well with any dog and a lot of humans so you need to be so careful.

I had an incident were the front door was left open and she bolted as she could obviously smell another dog, happened to be a terrier type but she had it by the next, thankfully i got out on time to get the other dog released. But my dog didn't listen to verbal instructiion so i had to hit her a few clatters in the head (she has a head like concrete in case animal rights are here), thankfully the other dog was fine but the owner was really shaken up and understandably so.

My point is that you must always ensure you have your dogs kept away from any potential dangers to other animals or humans as this tragic case shows

RIP

That's responsible ownership.

fqollere wrote: »

Lol

Why is that funny?

jam_mac_jam

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

As the owner of large Malamute i can relate to some of the replies in this thread.

Whenever i am walking her i will cross the road if i see a person on the same side and even more so if they have a dog. Unfortunately as a rescue dog she doesn't mix well with any dog and a lot of humans so you need to be so careful.

I had an incident were the front door was left open and she bolted as she could obviously smell another dog, happened to be a terrier type but she had it by the next, thankfully i got out on time to get the other dog released. But my dog didn't listen to verbal instructiion so i had to hit her a few clatters in the head (she has a head like concrete in case animal rights are here), thankfully the other dog was fine but the owner was really shaken up and understandably so.

My point is that you must always ensure you have your dogs kept away from any potential dangers to other animals or humans as this tragic case shows

RIP

Or just not own such a vicious dog?

JohnnyFlash

The travellers are big into the vicious breeds at the moment as they are making a fortune streaming dog fights on the internet.

Mango Joe

Martin McDonagh in originally linked news article wrote:

If anyone thought the animals were capable of killing somebody, they should have told me and the dogs would have been shot.

I feel really sorry for poor Martin here.....For 8 years he had 3 Presa Canario dogs, 2 of which weighed over 40kgs, roaming his house and surrounds totally uncontrolled. Once they attacked the Postman's van bursting his tyres which demonstrates aggression, bad temper, propensity towards violence and ferocious jaw strength with brute power.

......But nobody, absolutely nobody took a minute to tell Martin they were dangerous so that he could shoot them.....The sheer level of apathy and irresponsibility from the public at large here is shocking.

I really hope his thought process never changes here and that he somehow starts blaming himself?

Presumably now Martin is going to track down the owners of the 20-25 Presa Canario dogs he puppy farmed out over the past 8 years and shoot their dogs before they eviscerate someones child?

Deebles McBeebles

Terrible incident but I would lay the blame on the owner as opposed to the dogs or the breed. Any dog can be raised properly but this chap was obviously in it for the puppy money.

Stevieluvsye

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Or just not own such a vicious dog?

She is a rescue dog and i had a chance to save her from being put down.

She is in no way vicious with me or mrs or child but very protective.

Although with regards smaller dogs, cats and rabbits that's just the breeds natural prey drive they have

blackwhite

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Or just not own such a vicious dog?

Malamutes are not vicious dogs. They're known to be pretty docile and amiable with people.

They have a fairly high prey instinct though, meaning they're naturally inclined to hunt smaller animals (and sometimes smaller dogs too) which is why there can be problems with them roaming if not contained

facehugger99

thomasm wrote: »

So whats the best thing to do if a dog is attacking you and you cant get away. Go for the eyes, throat, legs??

Throw a stick and then run in the opposite direction.

ILoveYourVibes

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Or just not own such a vicious dog?

Number one breed for dog attacks is the golden lab retrievers followed by pitbulls.

But people don't see golden lab retrievers as vicious.

I was attacked by one when i was about ten. The owner just used to allow the dog out unsupervised.

Dachshunds and chihuahuas can be pretty aggressive too. They are not that strong though or fast and kind small so not so dangerous.

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Terrible incident but I would lay the blame on the owner as opposed to the dogs or the breed. Any dog can be raised properly but this chap was obviously in it for the puppy money.

That's not true. There are some breeds that are more aggressive that others. Its measurable. But its the combination of strength, size and aggression that makes them lethal.

We have a Dachshund personality wise he is much more aggressive than most dog breeds. But he is a mini and tiny with a tiny muzzle that is not very strong. Therefore he is easier to control. If you put his personality in a bigger dog though it would be different.

Spanish Eyes

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

As the owner of large Malamute i can relate to some of the replies in this thread.

Whenever i am walking her i will cross the road if i see a person on the same side and even more so if they have a dog. Unfortunately as a rescue dog she doesn't mix well with any dog and a lot of humans so you need to be so careful.

I had an incident were the front door was left open and she bolted as she could obviously smell another dog, happened to be a terrier type but she had it by the next, thankfully i got out on time to get the other dog released. But my dog didn't listen to verbal instructiion so i had to hit her a few clatters in the head (she has a head like concrete in case animal rights are here), thankfully the other dog was fine but the owner was really shaken up and understandably so.

My point is that you must always ensure you have your dogs kept away from any potential dangers to other animals or humans as this tragic case shows

RIP

Sounds like a lot of hard (and potentially dangerous) work owning a dog or dogs like this. Crossing the road if you see anyone approaching? That tells me all I need to know.

I'm very wary of dogs since I was charged at in the park last year. Knocked me down, not one of those brutish looking dogs either. But anyway I suppose I am a melting snowflake, but I value my safety.

charlietheminxx

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Or just not own such a vicious dog?

Yep, I really love dogs, they're family to me and I think some breeds get a bad rap because of the type of people who usually own them (e.g. staffies, which are generally loveable cuddly dogs in the right hands). However, if you have a dog that you know is vicious, and you know does not obey recall instructions, and they cannot be trained to be otherwise, then you're being completely reckless and irresponsible by keeping it.

EDIT: Just to clarify, this isn't a breed thing, this is based on the dogs behaviour.

dhaughton99

razorblunt wrote: »

"Didn't know they were dangerous" the wife says.
"I bought them after there were break ins, in the area" says the husband.
The owner here sounds like a right gowl.


Presumably he thought they'd be able to call Gardaí when intruders came or maybe cuddle them into submission.


Awful way to go, poor woman. The first responders were traumatised too.

I wonder who could have been doing the “break-ins”?

fqollere

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

The travellers are big into the vicious breeds at the moment as they are making a fortune streaming dog fights on the internet.

I'm calling BS on this

Stevieluvsye

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Sounds like a lot of hard (and potentially dangerous) work owning a dog or dogs like this. Crossing the road if you see anyone approaching? That tells me all I need to know.

I'm very wary of dogs since I was charged at in the park last year. Knocked me down, not one of those brutish looking dogs either. But anyway I suppose I am a melting snowflake, but I value my safety.

I only do this as i don't know if the person approaching is afraid of dogs and as they have wolf like features and are rather large and is known to "talk" when people are close by it may frighten some people

Useless fact for you

The voice of Chewbaca is actually from the sounds malamutes make

jam_mac_jam

charlietheminxx wrote: »

Yep, I really love dogs, they're family to me and I think some breeds get a bad rap because of the type of people who usually own them (e.g. staffies, which are generally loveable cuddly dogs in the right hands). However, if you have a dog that you know is vicious, and you know does not obey recall instructions, and they cannot be trained to be otherwise, then you're being completely reckless and irresponsible by keeping it.

EDIT: Just to clarify, this isn't a breed thing, this is based on the dogs behaviour.

Yeah, fair enough. Don't mean to be blaming a breed, the dog just sounded vicious with attacking a small dog.

Charles Babbage

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Number one breed for dog attacks is the golden lab retrievers followed by pitbulls.

But people don't see golden lab retrievers as vicious.

I was attacked by one when i was about ten. The owner just used to allow the dog out unsupervised.

Dachshunds and chihuahuas can be pretty aggressive too. They are not that strong though or fast and kind small so not so dangerous.

there are dogs that will attack you, but which don't have the strength or the jaws to kill you.

Three dogs of a breed with that strength is a lethal combination.

jam_mac_jam

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

She is a rescue dog and i had a chance to save her from being put down.

She is in no way vicious with me or mrs or child but very protective.

Although with regards smaller dogs, cats and rabbits that's just the breeds natural prey drive they have

Fair enough. Sorry.

magic_murph

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

As the owner of large Malamute i can relate to some of the replies in this thread.

Whenever i am walking her i will cross the road if i see a person on the same side and even more so if they have a dog. Unfortunately as a rescue dog she doesn't mix well with any dog and a lot of humans so you need to be so careful.

I had an incident were the front door was left open and she bolted as she could obviously smell another dog, happened to be a terrier type but she had it by the next, thankfully i got out on time to get the other dog released. But my dog didn't listen to verbal instructiion so i had to hit her a few clatters in the head (she has a head like concrete in case animal rights are here), thankfully the other dog was fine but the owner was really shaken up and understandably so.

My point is that you must always ensure you have your dogs kept away from any potential dangers to other animals or humans as this tragic case shows

RIP

Real question - why would you want such a large dog - from the post above it sounds like you might live in an estate so surrounded by other people / animals?

Deebles McBeebles

Charles Babbage wrote: »

there are dogs that will attack you, but which don't have the strength or the jaws to kill you.

Three dogs of a breed with that strength is a lethal combination.

If you are a scumbag and "raise" the dogs as such. I can only imagine those dogs were never exercised and on the rare occasion they were, the guy was getting dragged up the road by them. That's when I cross the road, no matter the size of the dog, when the dog is walking the owner and they obviously have no control.

Doctors room ghost

I for one can’t see the point of owning that type of dog.
What comfort can you have having to worry constantly is it going to escape and attack someone or something.
What good is it going for a walk and needing eyes in the back of your head Incase someone with a dog approached you and all hell breaks loose.
What are the actual advantages of owning this type of dog?
Give me a nice quiet paddy Irishman sheepdog or an old mongerel out of the pound any day before I’d have one.
It’s like leaving a loaded gun in the house and wondering if anything will happen when there’s no fcukin need for guns at all.

Stevieluvsye

magic_murph wrote: »

Real question - why would you want such a large dog - from the post above it sounds like you might live in an estate so surrounded by other people / animals?

I don't actually. I live on a private bit of land not that close to another house. About maybe 200 yards or so.

With regards other dogs we avoid walking her at "peak" time which is generally between 5 and 7 around our way, so she gets walked at 10.30 in the morning and about 7 in the evening

fqollere

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

I don't actually. I live on a private bit of land not that close to another house. About maybe 200 yards or so.

With regards other dogs we avoid walking her at "peak" time which is generally between 5 and 7 around our way, so she gets walked at 10.30 in the morning and about 7 in the evening

You're very self entitled with your dog

Should have got rid after nearly chewing a small dog to death

Stevieluvsye

fqollere wrote: »

You're very self entitled with your dog

Should have got rid after nearly chewing a small dog to death

Constructive post. If you have nothing else to add then jog on

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Number one breed for dog attacks is the golden lab retrievers followed by pitbulls.

But people don't see golden lab retrievers as vicious.

Two labs beside my parents house savaged both our dogs on two separate occasions. Parents dogs are contained and are not off the property. They are truly two disgusting beasts. No idea why they were not put down after the first incident.

The same dogs, rared correctly, may not be vicious at all. I don't get the ignorance in the first couple of posts on here.

Mongfinder General

Vicious bastards. Should be shot on site.

freshpopcorn

This is the thread when it took place!

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=103710648

Doctors room ghost

Think about that though.
The postman was in the van complaining to the owner that the dogs had bust his tyres and the fcukers jump out and do it again while he’s there complaining.
What in the name of god was going on.ffs.