Poorest town in Ireland

_blaaz

davidk1394 wrote: »

Carrick isn’t too bad. Very few shops closed and there’s always people around the town. Has a massive drug problem though

Theres a phrase,where i come from


Walk through ireland....run through carrick

davidk1394

_blaaz wrote: »

Theres a phrase,where i come from


Walk through ireland....run through carrick

An older saying was Carrick is for a man or a dog. Must of the tough families have died out. I live near the town and think it’s after improving over the last few years.

davidk1394

road_high wrote: »

Thats because they’re all unemployed with nothing else to do!

But there’s drugs in every corner of every town and village in Ireland.

_blaaz

davidk1394 wrote: »

An older saying was Carrick is for a man or a dog. Must of the tough families have died out. I live near the town and think it’s after improving over the last few years.

Another decent sized factory,would make some job of it tbf


But its asking for trouble long term,letting travellers buy up pubs in there?

tuxy

What about Freshford Co. Kilkenny I used to pass through on the way to Killkenny City and the look of the place just filled me with dread.

Or Callen also in Kilkenny, Brekfast on Pluto was shot there because of how depressing it looks.

touts

Tipperary town is like a set from the walking dead. The vast majority of the stores on the main Street boarded up. Empty retail estates out on the edge of town. Vacant industrial units crumbling beyond repair.

County Tipperary in general has suffered from extreme lack of investment by successive governments. Some of it is down to lack of political power. The only senior ministers Tipp have had in recent years were Michael Lowry, who was, shall we say, more interested in personal development than industrial development and Alan Kelly who blew his ministerial "re-election fund" on Nenagh's equivalent of the Springfield Monorail. And despite this they frankly are the best TDs the county has had in 30 years.

But it could have been somewhat different. Had they only built the M24 linking Limerick to Rosalare then suddenly Cahir, and south Tipp in general would sit on a strategic crossroads linking Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway and Waterford. But that got cancelled mainly because ministers from other counties shouted louder that their motorway was more important. So now instead of sitting at the crossroads of the country Tipperary Town, Cahir and Clonmel are turning into ghost towns.

cgcsb

cgcsb wrote: »

They're nice to you because you're from there. Try being a 'blow in'. I lived in the country for years, nothing but curtain twitching, one word answers to polite conversation, passive hostility and outright accusations of stuff they think is immoral. Accusatory questions like: 'I suppose you know that crowd who robbed Mary ****'s place last night, from Dublin they were I'd say'. They're also only helpful as far as their hedge. An extremely covetous, clanish people, highly concerned with their few possessions to the exclusion of all events outside of their hedge.

Definitely not intellectual at all. Just the other day I had a very interesting conversation with a young single mother at a bus stop in Ballyfermot about climate change, she started the conversation and was very well informed about the concept of balancing the national grid to provide better penetration of renewables.



Darndale was the most pro marriage equality area in the country in the 2015 referendum. Being a covetous culchie, you've obviously pre-occupied yourself with how much stuff you own and how others might want to steal them from you. I'm not saying that those areas are cultural meccas, but actually they're the rough underside of a far superior cultural set up. The vast majority of Dublin's population is middle class. Not that the urban poor are deserving of your derision.

You weren't liked and are very sore about it. Id imagine the stereotypical arrogant Dub was oozing out of you and the locals seen it a mile off.

As for you little anecdote about the single mother from Ballyfermot being interested in the environment, my goodness how patronizing. Imagine being interested on the environment when she should have been talking about Love Island or Jeremy Kyle?

Gael23

Tipp Town is a sorry place.

New Ross in Wexford suffers from high unemployment. After that I would think somewhere in the west

Atoms for Peace

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Tipp gets an real battering in here. Cannot really be that bad?

Ahem, Michael Lowry..

rainybillwill

Lots of towns in mayo

tuxy

Deleted User wrote: »

Ahem, Michael Lowry..

But Holycross is a nice village......

Woke Hogan

Vita nova wrote: »

There's something highly ironic and hypocritical about chastising people for being closed-minded or backward while simultaneously using regional slurs like "culchie" to describe them.

Typical “Dubs” dish it out but they can’t take it back.

skooterblue2

davidk1394 wrote: »

Carrick isn’t too bad. Very few shops closed and there’s always people around the town. Has a massive drug problem though

Actually it is. Very little stable manufacturing, never got an Urban Renewal Program in the 90's and until recently (20 years ago) Tipperary had no commutable distance to third level education. All contribute to generational poverty and sustainability.

appledrop

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Athy, Co. Kildare.

That's what I thought aswell.

Mad_maxx

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You weren't liked and are very sore about it. Id imagine the stereotypical arrogant Dub was oozing out of you and the locals seen it a mile off.

As for you little anecdote about the single mother from Ballyfermot being interested in the environment, my goodness how patronizing. Imagine being interested on the environment when she should have been talking about Love Island or Jeremy Kyle?

If you aren't seed - breed and generation, it doesn't matter if you look like George Clooney and with a personality to boot, rural types hate those from the next parish over , never mind Dublin or a far away county.

corner of hells

Woke Hogan wrote: »

Vita nova wrote: »

There's something highly ironic and hypocritical about chastising people for being closed-minded or backward while simultaneously using regional slurs like "culchie" to describe them.

Typical “Dubs” dish it out but they can’t take it back.

Do you need some salt ?

Wildly Boaring

Gimme A Pound wrote: »

It's kinda a tricky one as some towns are absolute sh1t-holes yet in areas of wealth. E.g. Mitchelstown. What a grim kip. My friend teaches there - rife with problems disproportionate for such a small town. Yet right in the Golden Vale.

jimgoose wrote: »

Another mention of Tipperary town here. It's a pity to see a once-bustling farmer's town go downhill so. It's strange to compare it with Midleton, which would appear to be a very similar sort of setup - small-ish, tidy farming town, about the same distance roughly to the larger city, and yet Midleton is booming.

Who compared Tipperary Town to Midleton? They haven't a clue whoever they are!

Mitchelstown???
Hardly one of the poorest towns in ireland.
Great big Dairygold processing plant.
40 min commute to cork sure half the town work in pharma in ringaskiddy.

Pass through a lot. It's a village not a town at this stage. But it's middle of the road as far as countryside goes.

If we're talking poor it's got to be west and lacking in tourism. Was in Clare a lot lately.
Kilkee Kilrush Lisdoonvarna
Assume lot of donegal, mayo

And obviously Tipp town

Fann Linn

Badabing wrote: »

Bridgetown in South Wexford was a bit of a kip a few years ago.

What changed?

tuxy

What about Buttavant?

Some wealthy cultured people during the horse fair though!

skooterblue2

tuxy wrote: »

What about Buttavant?

Some wealthy cultured people during the horse fair though!

Aint that the truth, boss!
What with d'Julia an' de child on the way and de social on your back. Shure a great day out for de childers and you have a pint and fight and sure its all good fun boss

appledrop

Ok so looked up Tipperary Town + Athy + there are definitely up there as one of poorest towns. Tipperary Town has a number of areas marked as very disadvantaged + disadvantaged. Athy is the same it even has an extremely disadvantaged area which you really only get in places like Darndale or Moyross.

The stats don't lie.

6541

Castlebar, nothing but scratching around here. We are like hens, scratching.

rainybillwill

6541 wrote: »

Castlebar, nothing but scratching around here. We are like hens, scratching.

Its the best mayo can off though

Stovepipe

East Galway, as a resident of that area told me, is more aligned to the Roscommon hinterland and they regard West Galway, Spiddal and the like, as a different county. It's like Donegal people who regard Derry as their natural hinterland.

Joe Daly

tuxy wrote: »

What about Freshford Co. Kilkenny I used to pass through on the way to Killkenny City and the look of the place just filled me with dread.

Or Callen also in Kilkenny, Brekfast on Pluto was shot there because of how depressing it looks.

Freshford has a well kept green, park, forest walks never a problem in it. It would be a lot better place to live than a lot of places mentioned, if it got the flooding problem sorted it would be thriving.

Kevhog1988

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Edenderry would appear to have a very large population of scumbags, knackers, junkies, and dirtbirds.

Completely agree. Place is gone too far

L1011

rainybillwill wrote: »

Its the best mayo can off though

Ballina is far wealthier. Not that Castlebar is actually even vaguely poor.

Ballina has the medtech money, Coca Cola, forestry and so on. Had to go there a few times during the depths of the recession and there wasn't a closed shop in the centre; shops selling hundred quid kids dresses and so on.

micky jammy delahunty

jimgoose wrote: »

Another mention of Tipperary town here. It's a pity to see a once-bustling farmer's town go downhill so..

It's the conservatism of "bustling" farmers, that creates these environments....If you pilled all those farmers together in one city, you'd basically have Knackeragua...The "bustling" farmers surrounding Tipperary Town have more money than ever, the money isn't the problem. The money is not the problem....Hopefully, they'll develop a strong taste for heroin, and wipe themselves out...

These people are beyond saving....they're beyond being what you could call people already....The fluoride in the water is not controlling their minds, contraceptives should be added, to control their numbers, and fentanyl to get them hooked and the to wipe them out...


By the way...to explain my attitude...I have deep scars all over my face, from being gay bashed in knicker stink smalltown salt of the arse Ireland...And I sincerely believe, the best thing that could happen to the place, is choking nerve gas....and the fat mammies and fat daddies, who raised their children to be worthless backward violent scum vermin, choke and spasm on the ground in death, in the death they deserve....

Roscommon .....Life can only be for those worthy of life...

LuasSimon

I think this thread has given us a clear winner for 2019 poorest town been Tipperary town .
Other towns that got notable mentions include Portlaoise , Athy , Carrick on Suir .
Starting another thread for Ireland’s roughest town , see is the result any different .

I see sheep

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Then again Galway hasn't one decent town, the city is the only built up place worth visiting, mayo has better towns than Galway

Clifden, Spiddal and Kinvarra are lovely towns.

cgcsb

Deleted User wrote: »

You weren't liked and are very sore about it. Id imagine the stereotypical arrogant Dub was oozing out of you and the locals seen it a mile off.

As for you little anecdote about the single mother from Ballyfermot being interested in the environment, my goodness how patronizing. Imagine being interested on the environment when she should have been talking about Love Island or Jeremy Kyle?

Wasn't just me, friend of mine from Wicklow got same treatment as did a friend from Clare (he was domesticated at UCD)

The point isn't that he was talking about the environment. The point is she was talking about something which was outside of her possession, and behind the boundaries of her property. Such conversations wouldn't be possible down the bog, it's all about owning stuff and potentially owning stuff.

skooterblue2

I think it is about the people. The people make a place. My Aunt was in Rhodesia, the bread basket of africa in the 1960's. By the 1970s they had civil unrest and then civil war. The next thing all the managers, farmers and technicians, engineers and Doctors left. The country collapsed and is now the **** holes we now refer to as Zambia and Zimbabwe.

The same thing is happening in these midland towns. Due to crap rural development planning has decimated rural midland towns with the talented youth drawn away and not returning. Then the majority left behind are well those not smart enough to go to college get a trade or join the army or have significant ties to the area (farm, business, land ownership etc). Hence the development of the Tracksuit brigade and with reduced decent individual employment prospects drugs creep in.

EmmetSpiceland

Stovepipe wrote: »

East Galway, as a resident of that area told me, is more aligned to the Roscommon hinterland and they regard West Galway, Spiddal and the like, as a different county. It's like Donegal people who regard Derry as their natural hinterland.

I know a lad from the west part of Galway, an odd fellow but he views everywhere east of the Corrib as Britain.

micky jammy delahunty

LuasSimon wrote: »

I think this thread has given us a clear winner for 2019 poorest town been Tipperary town .
Other towns that got notable mentions include Portlaoise , Athy , Carrick on Suir .
Starting another thread for Ireland’s roughest town , see is the result any different .

I'm from one of the towns you've listed.

I'll give you my earliest memory. I'm a toddler, and I'm in the local park with my grandmother. I can piece together what happened that I was not aware of at the time. Some school boys from the local secondary school were in the park on their lunch break, they somehow separated me from my grandmother, led me someplace, and when they got me there they had another child, not a toddler, but much older and bigger than me but still a small child, beat me up as they cheered on. I was badly hurt, someone had trained that small child.

Put this from another perspective; imagine as an adult you are in a park, minding a toddler, you turn your back for a minute, and they're gone. When you find them, they've obviously been physically harmed, and they're going in and out of consciousness. What kind of horrific place would that be.

When my cousin was 8 years old, a sixteen year old girl, snuck up behind him on the street outside his house, and nearly beat him to death with an iron bar. When you were a small child, were you filled with apprehension leaving the house, that there was a realistic possibility, that once you were outside, someone would sneak up behind you and beat you to death or serious injury with an iron bar. And with this going on, all the way into adulthood, how would it effect the way you see the world.

fryup

Jobstown in Tallaght.....ironically named on purpose i think seeing that 90% of the residents don't have a job

Doctors room ghost

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

I know a lad from the west part of Galway, an odd fellow but he views everywhere east of the Corrib as Britain.

I’d well believe it emmet. The cunny is a strange breed of person

Mantis Toboggan

6541 wrote: »

Castlebar, nothing but scratching around here. We are like hens, scratching.

You haven't been to ballinrobe so!

fryup

fryup wrote: »

Jobseekerstown in Tallaght.....ironically named on purpose i think seeing that 90% of the residents don't have a job

Tough spot.

Panthro

Ballinaslowitdownta**** is a poop hole.

EmmetSpiceland

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

I’d well believe it emmet. The cunny is a strange breed of person

This lad would be living in a caravan out in the middle of nowhere, might be in a shack now. Says he’s a “farmer” but, literally, every time I’ve seen him he has his hands in his pockets. He’s getting those cheekbrows too.

Drives a 99 Peugeot 106, still thinks anything past 00 is “exotic”. Firmly believes you need no NCT, tax or insurance for driving in the Gaeltacht. Keeps a copy of the constitution in the glove box for dealing with any “peelers” who stop him.

Still, I’ve heard he’s not alone in his assertion about the land “east of the Corrib”.

skooterblue2

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

This lad would be living in a caravan out in the middle of nowhere, might be in a shack now. Says he’s a “farmer” but, literally, every time I’ve seen him he has his hands in his pockets. He’s getting those cheekbrows too.

Drives a 99 Peugeot 106, still thinks anything past 00 is “exotic”. Firmly believes you need no NCT, tax or insurance for driving in the Gaeltacht. Keeps a copy of the constitution in the glove box for dealing with any “peelers” who stop him.

Still, I’ve heard he’s not alone in his assertion about the land “east of the Corrib”.

I have a friend teaching psychology, could she have him for "show and tell" day?

micky jammy delahunty

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

This lad would be living in a caravan out in the middle of nowhere, might be in a shack now. Says he’s a “farmer” but, literally, every time I’ve seen him he has his hands in his pockets. He’s getting those cheekbrows too.

Drives a 99 Peugeot 106, still thinks anything past 00 is “exotic”. Firmly believes you need no NCT, tax or insurance for driving in the Gaeltacht. Keeps a copy of the constitution in the glove box for dealing with any “peelers” who stop him.

Still, I’ve heard he’s not alone in his assertion about the land “east of the Corrib”.

The average Irish dairy farmer, milks about 12 or 13 dairy cows..because of refrigeration, the vast majority only milk from the mid Spring to early Autumn. And the average income is above 50k (no mortgage, no rent). When I was a teenager, I used to milk on a farm, with between 100 and 120 milkers...What the average Irish dairy farmer does, isn't even work....

Wildly Boaring

I have never seen a farm that milks less than 50 in summer.
Twice a day, every day, clean down the place after. Looking at 3 or 4 hours before you do anything else.

Now boys with 20 or 30 sucklers. That's handy but it ain't 50k a year.

micky jammy delahunty

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

I have never seen a farm that milks less than 50 in summer.
Twice a day, every day, clean down the place after. Looking at 3 or 4 hours before you do anything else.

That would be the same where I come from, and I would have expected that to be the norm, but it isn't. The average is in fact 12 or 13 cows (since no one can milk half a cow).

And many people who have "cushy" office jobs, have 3 to 4 hour commutes, and when they get to work, they have to swallow all the bullshish rained down into their gobs, with a smile.

Now boys with 20 or 30 sucklers. That's handy but it ain't 50k a year.

Can you show specific statistics?. . . . . Or is this a rabbit hole we should not be going down.

Let's not go down this rabbit hole. . . . The play the Jackeens and Tinkers for fools rabbit hole

Your Face

Stovepipe wrote: »

East Galway, as a resident of that area told me, is more aligned to the Roscommon hinterland and they regard West Galway, Spiddal and the like, as a different county. It's like Donegal people who regard Derry as their natural hinterland.

I worked in East Galway for a few years.
Awfully strange people.
League of Gentleman vibe.

DEFTLEFTHAND

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I was up there last year and couldn’t get over how backward the place was. Some beautiful scenery, but a very poor tourist product in general - frozen fish in a restaurant half a mile from the sea for example. The people up there seem a bit simple as well.

Yeah it's very backward alright, real bang of poverty and neglect off the place. I was up at the Rory Gallagher festival in Ballyshannon and couldn't get over how rundown the area is. Loads of early 90s reg cars still on the roads for instance.

It's also very difficult for me to communicate with locals as I can't understand the accent.

ILoveYourVibes

Bunclody in Wexford according to an Teagasc.

Jimmy McGill

_blaaz wrote: »

but special shout out to gorey,bleakest wasteland of the east coast

It's been taken over by junkies and immigrants in a very short space of time. Walk down the main street and it's like the land of the living dead at all times of the day.

lisasimpson

Surprise tipp town wasnt followed by Thurles. Theres a town that has gone rapidly downhill in the last 10 15 years. Mostly bookies and charity shops now. Only for the 2 3rd level colleges the place would be a abandoned

Mad_maxx

micky jammy delahunty wrote: »

The average Irish dairy farmer, milks about 12 or 13 dairy cows..because of refrigeration, the vast majority only milk from the mid Spring to early Autumn. And the average income is above 50k (no mortgage, no rent). When I was a teenager, I used to milk on a farm, with between 100 and 120 milkers...What the average Irish dairy farmer does, isn't even work....

BS