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Should Israel really be condemned and boycotted?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    By the way EU law and thus Irish law lists Hamas and the PA as terrorist organizations.

    The UN criticizes their human rights record in the west bank and Gaza.

    As soon as Israel leave the west bank the people there are going to face a humanitarian crisis and everyone knows it.

    Also israel has withdrawn from gaza ...and people in the west bank have a much higher standard of living than in gaza. Hamas has not exactly been successful.

    Since when was Israel fond of the UN or human rights for that matter?
    A UN forum singles out Israel, saying it violated women’s and human rights
    Israel was the only country named Tuesday as a violator or trouble spot by the 54-nation UN Economic and Social Council during the session, according to the UN Watch organization.
    https://www.jta.org/quick-reads
    Resolution condemning Hamas fails at U.N. in setback for Israel and Trump administration
    A resolution that would have condemned the militant group Hamas and its attacks on Israel failed to pass the United Nations on Thursday, despite an aggressive campaign by the United States and Israel to cast it as a vote on peace and terrorism.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/u-n-fails-to-vote-to-condemn-hamas-dealing-a-blow-to-israel-and-the-trump-administration/2018/12/06/e57bb36a-f988-11e8-8d64-4e79db33382f_story.html
    In 2018, Israel became the most condemned nation at the UN
    In 2018, the United Nations issued 27 condemnations and 21 of them were against Israel.
    https://www.trtworld.com/middle-east/in-2018-israel-became-the-most-condemned-nation-at-the-un-22899

    It's a criminal regime saved only by western connections and lobby groups.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Hamas killed a bus full of tourists in Egypt.

    What's that got to do with Israel murdering people and stealing land? Oh wait, a lot.
    You know you're on a loser when you are comparing a supposed civil and legitimate government to a terrorist group.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,177 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Since when was Israel fond of the UN or human rights for that matter?


    I dunno ask the 2 million Palestinians who choose to live there as Israeli citizens.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attacks_attributed_to_Abu_Nidal

    What was there before Hamas.

    Oh and if anyone wanted to destroy Yassar Arafat it was the Palestinians themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    I dunno ask the 2 million Palestinians who choose to live there as Israeli citizens.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attacks_attributed_to_Abu_Nidal

    What was there before Hamas.

    Oh and if anyone wanted to destroy Yassar Arafat it was the Palestinians themselves.

    You're desperately leaning heavily on whataboutery. None of which excuses Israels criminality.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    No its nowhere near that.

    Its roughly 380,000

    The new Interior Ministry numbers show 389,250 Jews living in Judea and Samaria, a jump of 15,000 people since 2013. Another 375,000 live in ‘disputed’ neighborhoods of Jerusalem over the 1949 Armistice line, such as French Hill, Sanhedria, Mount of Olives, and Mount Scopus.
    https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/26966/jewish-population-in-judea-and-samaria-growing-significantly/#DpRV1c2O5HHhPB67.97




    I suggest you send them a sharply worded e-mail.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Again - use the f'n Edit button!

    Here's the wonderful peace-loving Israeli state you keep imagining:

    * Your current prime minister, promoting apartheid: “Israel is not a state of all its citizens,” he wrote in response to criticism from an Israeli actor, Rotem Sela. “According to the basic nationality law we passed, Israel is the nation state of the Jewish people – and only it.

    * Previous prime ministers, just being racist: https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/shocking-quotes-was-every-israeli-prime-minister-a-racist/https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/shocking-quotes-was-every-israeli-prime-minister-a-racist/

    * Israeli government approving building of new settlements in occupied West Bank (I thought they were all just transient hippies, pass the bong?)

    * Israeli destruction of EU-built (legally!) property, total disregard for international agreements that they signed up to and Binny Telling European Leaders Concern for Palestinian Rights Is “Crazy”

    That Binny is a real card, isn't he? What a rascal!

    So yeah - BDS!


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,177 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    What's that got to do with Israel murdering people and stealing land? Oh wait, a lot.
    Munich Olympic Massacre

    That was the PLO.

    Hijacking British Airways flights.

    Killing of a french ambassador to Lebannon


    Quick reminder of what the PLO did.

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    1973

    1974

    1975

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    1976

    • September 27, 1976: Attack and takeover of the Semiramis Hotel, Damascus, Syria. Three of the captured attackers were next day hanged in public.[3]
    • October 11, 1976: Attacks on the Syrian embassies in Islamabad, Pakistan, and Rome, Italy.[4]
    • November 17, 1976: ANO fighters stormed the Intercontinental Hotel in Amman, Jordan, taking several hostages. The hotel was stormed in turn by Jordanaian security forces, and three gunmen, two soldiers and two civilians were killed. The remaining attackers were executed shortly afterwards.[5]
    • December 1, 1976: Syrian foreign minister Abdul Halim Khaddam is shot and wounded in an attack on his car in Damascus.[6]
    • December 13, 1976: Foiled attack on the Syrian embassy in Istanbul.
    1977

    • October 1977: Second assassination attempt on Khaddam at Abu Dhabi airport, during which the foreign minister of the United Arab Emirates is killed by accident.
    • November 15, 1977: Assassination of the director of the Arab Library, Paris.
    1978

    • January 4, 1978: Assassination of Said Hammami, PLO representative in London, Great Britain
    • February 18, 1978: Egyptian journalist Youssef al-Seba'i killed whilst acting as president of the Conference of the Organization for the Solidarity with the Peoples of Africa, Asia and Latin America.
    • 1978: Assassination of PLO representative in Brussels, Belgium.
    • June 15, 1978: Assassination of Ali Yassin, PLO representative in Kuwait.
    • August 3, 1978: Izz al-Din al-Kalak, PLO representative to Paris, France is assassinated along with an assistant.[7]
    • August 5, 1978: PLO offices in Islamabad, Pakistan are attacked.
    • 1978: Assassination of PLO representative in Rome, Italy.
    • 1978: Assassination of PLO representative in Madrid.
    1979

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    List of attacks attributed to Abu Nidal 1980s: 1980 1981 1982 1983 1984 1985 1986 1987 1988 1989 External linksReferences 1980

    • January 17, 1980: Yussouf Mubarak, director of the Palestinian library-shop, is assassinated in Paris, France.[7]
    • July 27, 1980: 1980 Antwerp summer camp attack. Carried out with 2 hand grenades carried Abu Nidal operative Said Al Nasr on group of Jewish children waiting with their families for a summer camp bus in Antwerp, Belgium. (Killing one 15-year-old bystander and seriously wounding 8)
    • July 27, 1980: Claims responsibility for murder of Israeli commercial attaché in Brussels.
    1981

    • February 6, 1981: Hisham Muheissen, the Jordanian charge d'affairs in Beirut was kidnapped and three of his bodyguards killed by unidentified attackers, later believed to be ANO. Mulheissen was released unharmed 67 days later.[8]
    • May 1, 1981: Assassination of councilman Heinz Nittel in Vienna, Austria. Nittel was President of the Austrian-Israeli Friendship Association and had been involved in the peace process in Israel.[9]
    • June 1, 1981: Killing of Naim Khader, the PLO's representative in Belgium.
    • August 1, 1981 A series of bombings damage several French banks and businesses, the Air France office and the Saudi Arabian embassy in Beirut, but no one is seriously hurt.[10][11]
    • August 29, 1981: 1981 Vienna synagogue attack Three men attacked a Vienna synagogue with machine guns. Two civilians were killed and 23 wounded, including 3 policemen. The attackers were arrested and imprisoned.[12]
    • September 4, 1981: The French ambassador to Lebanon, Louis Delamare was assassinated on a Beirut street in a bungled kidnap attempt.[13]
    • September 23, 1981: Five Greek Cypriots are injured in a grenade attack on shipping offices in Limassol.[14]
    • October 6, 1981: PLO officer Majed Abu Sharar was assassinated by a bomb hidden in his hotel room in Rome, Italy. ANO claimed he was compromising the principles of the revolution.[15]
    • November 7, 1981: A kidnap attempt on a Saudi Arabian diplomat is foiled in Beirut.[16]
    1982

    • June 3, 1982: Attempted assassination in London of Shlomo Argov, Israeli ambassador to the United Kingdom. The Israeli government blamed the PLO for the attack, and this was one of the incidents which provoked a large-scale invasion of Lebanon on June 6. Argov was permanently disabled and died of his injuries 21 years later.[17]
    • June 4, 1982: A Kuwaiti diplomat is assassinated outside his home in New Delhi, India.[18]
    • July 7, 1982: A Jordanian diplomat was assassinated and another seriously injured in an attack on an Athens street in Greece.[19]
    • August 9, 1982: Gun and grenade attack on Goldenberg Restaurant in Jewish quarter of Paris, France leaves six dead, 22 wounded.[20]
    • August 26, 1982: Two failed assassination attempts - on the United Arab Emirates consul in Bombay and a Kuwaiti diplomat in Karachi, Pakistan.
    • 1982: Assassination of PLO official in Madrid, Spain.
    • September 16, 1982: Kuwaiti diplomat Najeed Sayed al-Rafaia is assassinated in Madrid, Spain when he was mistaken for the ambassador.
    • September 18, 1982: Four people are wounded when a synagogue in Brussels is attacked in a "shoot and run" incident.[21]
    • October 9, 1982: 1982 Great Synagogue of Rome attack: five elegantly dressed attackers threw at least three hand grenades and sprayed a crowd of people with submachine fire, as they were leaving the central synagogue in Rome, Italy. A 2-year-old toddler (Stefano Gaj Taché) was killed in the attack, and 37 people were injured.[22]
    1983

    • April 10, 1983: Noted PLO dove and Arafat aide Issam Sartawi is killed at the Socialist International conference in Albufeira, Portugal.[23]
    • 1983: Attack on the Jordanian ambassador to Italy, in Rome, who survives.
    • August 29, 1983: A French aircraft was hijacked from Vienna, Austria and taken to Tehran. No one was hurt in the incident.[24]
    • September 23, 1983: Bombing of Gulf Air Flight 771. 117 people killed.
    • October 26, 1983: Jordanian ambassador to India was shot six times in an ambush in New Delhi, but survived his injuries.[25]
    • October 27, 1983: Jordanian ambassador to Italy, Taysir AlaEddin Toukan, was shot and wounded along with his driver during an ambush by two gunmen in Rome. Both men survived.[26]
    • November 7, 1983: Attack on the Jordanian embassy in Athens, Greece. A guard is killed.
    • December 26, 1983: Two people are injured by a bomb explosion outside a Marks and Spencers department store in London, England. The Provisional Irish Republican Army are blamed, but it later emerges that the ANO is responsible.[27]
    • December 1983: Accused of responsibility for the bombing of the French Cultural Center in İzmir, Turkey.
    • December 29, 1983: The Jordanian ambassador to Spain is assassinated in Madrid.
    1984

    • 1984: Assassination of Jordanian ambassador in India.
    • 1984: Assassination of Jordanian ambassador in Spain.
    • 1984: Assassination of Jordanian ambassador in Italy.
    • February 8, 1984: The United Arab Emirates' ambassador to France, Khalifa Abdel Aziz al-Mubarak, was assassinated on a Paris street.[28]
    • March 7, 1984: Three were killed and nine injured in the bombing of a civilian bus in Ashdod, Israel.[29]
    • March 24, 1984: In Amman, a bomb was found and removed at the Intercontinental Hotel, coinciding with the visit of Queen Elizabeth II to Jordan.[30]
    • March 28, 1984: British Cultural Attache and British Council representative Kenneth Whitty was assassinated on an Athens street in Greece by a single gunman, coinciding with the start of a European tour of A School For Scandal, to celebrate the British Council’s 50th anniversary, which opened in Athens three days later on 31 March.[2][31]
    • April 2, 1984: 48 people are wounded by a machine gun attack on a crowded shopping mall in Jerusalem, Israel.[32]
    • May 24, 1984; Bomb explodes in an Athens restaurant, no one is hurt.[33]
    • June 5, 1984: Assassination attempt on Israeli diplomat in Cairo, Egypt.
    • October 4, 1984: A car bomb exploded in the Israeli embassy car park in Nicosia, Cyprus. One person was hurt[34]
    • October 4, 1984: An Israeli intelligence agent was killed with four other people in an ambush on a Beirut street.[35]
    • October 26, 1984: The attempted assassination of a senior UAE diplomat in Rome, Italy, leaves him in a coma and a woman bystander dead.[36]
    • November 28, 1984: Percy Norris, British Deputy High Commissioner in Bombay, India, is shot and killed by an unidentified gunman as he drove through traffic.[37][38]
    • November 29, 1984: British Airways' offices in Beirut, Lebanon, are bombed.
    • November 1984: Attempted assassination of Jordanian diplomat in Greece.
    • December 4, 1984: Kills a Jordanian diplomat in Bucharest, Romania, using the name Black September.
    • December 26, 1984: Bombing of the home of veteran Fatah and PLO leader Hani al-Hassan (a.k.a. Abu Tariq, Abu al-Hassan), in Amman, Jordan. Uses the name Black September.
    • December 29, 1984: Assassination in Amman, Jordan of former Hebron mayor and West Bank moderate Fahd Qawasma, who had previously been deported by Israel for alleged incitement to violence; in Amman, Jordan; uses the name Black September.
    1985

    • March 25, 1985: British journalist Alec Collett, working for the UN, was kidnapped in Beirut, Lebanon along with an Austrian who was soon released. On 23 April 1986, he was hanged in revenge for Operation El Dorado Canyon.[39]
    • 1985: Attack on resort hotel in Athens, Greece. 13 wounded.
    • March 21, 1985: Bombing of the Royal Jordanian Airlines (ALIA) offices in Rome, Italy, under the name Black September.
    • March 21, 1985: Bombing of the Royal Jordanian Airlines (ALIA) offices in Athens, Greece, under the name Black September.
    • March 21, 1985: Bombing of the Royal Jordanian Airlines (ALIA) offices in Nicosia, Cyprus, under the name Black September.
    • April 3, 1985: Rocket attack on ALIA airliner taking off from Athens Airport. No casualties.
    • April 4, 1985: Rocket attack against Jordanian embassy in Italy.
    • May 1, 1985: An assassination attempt on a Kuwaiti newspaper editor believed to be soft on Israel failed.[40]
    • June 19, 1985: The Frankfurt Airport was bombed in an attack that killed 3 people, including two children, and wounded 74.[41][42]
    • July 1, 1985: Bombing of the British Airways office in Madrid, Spain. One person was killed, 27 wounded. Near simultaneous attack on ALIA offices nearby, with two wounded.
    • July 11, 1985: Eleven people were killed and 90 injured in two large bomb explosions in cafés in Kuwait City. Amongst the dead was the target of the bombings, the head of Kuwait's investigative branch of the police. A third bomb was successfully defused.[43]
    • July 7, 1985: A yacht carrying French and Belgian Jews was hijacked off the Gaza Strip and sailed to Libya with eight civilian hostages. These people are then used as "bargaining chips" in Libyan dealings with France, and Abu Nidal dealing with Belgium, until they are all released in 1990. Abu Nidal takes responsibility for this act in November 1987 (Silco incident).[44]
    • July 22, 1985: Failed bombing of the US embassy in Egypt.
    • July 21, 1985: A Kuwati Airlines office was destroyed in Beirut. No one was hurt.[45]
    • July 24, 1985: Jordanian diplomat Zayed Sati was assassinated in Istanbul, Turkey.[46]
    • September 16, 1985: Grenades were thrown into a popular tourist attraction, the Cafe de Paris in Rome, Italy, wounding 38 people.[47]
    • November 1985: Hijacking of EgyptAir Flight 648 at Malta. Resolved after Egyptian commandos stormed the plane, slaying 1 of the 3 hijackers, one of which had been killed in an in-flight shootout with a sky marshal, although 58 of the 91 passengers died.
    • October 7, 1985: Eleven people were injured by a bomb which exploded in a residential building in Jerusalem.[48]
    • November 20, 1985: Two Palestinians were assassinated in Jordan by ANO because they were apparently associated with Yasser Arafat.[49]
    • December 19, 1985: A courtroom in Nantes, France was held hostage by a gunman for several hours in a symbolic protest. No one was hurt. [2]
    • December 27, 1985: Attacks on Israeli El Al airport counters in Rome and Vienna. 18 dead, 111 wounded.
    1986

    1987

    • January 19, 1987: Two Israeli youths were non-fatally stabbed in Jerusalem, apparently after stumbling upon some ANO operatives by accident.[57]
    • March 5, 1987: Two Palestinian men were abducted and hanged in Turkey on unproven "charges" of being Jordanian secret agents.[58]
    1988

    • 1988: Car bomb outside the Israeli embassy in Cyprus. Three dead.
    • February 5, 1988 Two Scandinavian aid workers were kidnapped in Beirut and released a month later.[59]
    • March 23, 1988: A man fired on a bus in Bombay, India, which was carrying an Alitalia flight crew. One person wounded. Two days later, grenades were discovered and removed from the Saudi Arabian consulate in the city.[60][61]
    • May 15, 1988: Simultaneous gun and grenade attacks on the Acropole Hotel and the Sudan Club in Khartoum aimed at Western diplomats and their families. Four Britons, three Americans and two Sudanese killed, 21 people wounded.[62]
    • May 11, 1988: A large truck bomb explodes close to the Israeli embassy in Nicosia, Cyprus. The driver is one of the three people killed, apparently when an accomplice remotely detonated the device early. 19 people were injured.[63]
    • July 11, 1988: A car bomb explodes prematurely at a pier in Athens, killing two ANO members. This is followed by an attack on the cruise ship City of Poros, which leaves nine dead and 98 wounded.
    • August 20, 1988: 25 people are injured in a hand grenade explosion at a shopping centre in Haifa, Israel.[64]
    • November 17, 1988: A Swiss Red Cross worker was kidnapped in Sidon, Lebanon, and held for a month before being released unharmed.[65]
    1989

    • January 4, 1989: A Saudi diplomat, Salah Al-Maliki, is killed and another man injured near the embassy in Bangkok, Thailand[66]
    • March 29, 1989: Two Muslim clerics opposed to the Salman Rushdie fatwah were assassinated in a mosque in Brussels, Belgium.[67]
    • October 4, 1989: Dr Joseph Wybran, a Belgian Jew and peace activist was assassinated in Brussels.[68]
    • October 6, 1989: Two Swiss Red Cross workers were kidnapped in Beirut. Both were released unharmed in August 1990.[69]



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    ..............

    Quick reminder of what the PLO did.






    None of which justifies the occupation and colonisation of the OT.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,177 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Odhinn wrote: »
    None of which justifies the occupation and colonisation of the OT.
    If it stopped it?

    How many lives around the world do you think Israel saved?

    Take a look at that list of attacks.

    That is just ONE man within the PLO.

    By the way corbyn went to the funeral of one the munich attackers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    If your only argument is whataboutery, you've lost. Just... stop?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    If it stopped it?

    How many lives around the world do you think Israel saved?




    I don't understand what you're trying to say. What "it" stopped what "it"?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,177 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Odhinn wrote: »
    I don't understand what you're trying to say. What "it" stopped what "it"?
    How many PLO attacks have there been world wide of late?

    There used to be hundreds.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    How many PLO attacks have there been world wide of late?

    There used to be hundreds.


    They gave it up as it was hurting the Palestinian side politically. In much the same way as Israels assasination program hasn't extended to Europe since the early 90's.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,177 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Odhinn wrote: »
    They gave it up as it was hurting the Palestinian side politically. In much the same way as Israels assasination program hasn't extended to Europe since the early 90's.
    No.

    Checkpoints work my naive friend.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    No.

    Checkpoints work my naive friend.




    ........bizarre nonsense. And we aren't 'friends', naive or otherwise.


    You admit you were wrong on settler numbers?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,177 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Odhinn wrote: »
    ........bizarre nonsense.


    Every check point saves hundreds of lives in Europe every year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Every check point saves hundreds of lives in Europe every year.


    Do you admit you were wrong with regard to settler numbers?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,177 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Do you admit you were wrong with regard to settler numbers?


    How many people in Europe nothing to do with the conflict have the PLO killed over the years?

    They bombed buses in London ...

    Hijacked i don't know how many flights.

    Abu Nidal alone killed 600.

    Settler numbers ..no i don't think i was wrong.

    As far as i know no israeli settler has ever hijacked a plan or blown up a bus in london though.

    That is the govt in the west bank. These are attacks that government carried out.

    Were the bus bombings part of a Palestinian expansion plan into london or something?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    .....................
    Settler numbers ..no i don't think i was wrong.

    ........................


    I think - in fact know - you were.


    The new Interior Ministry numbers show 389,250 Jews living in Judea and Samaria, a jump of 15,000 people since 2013. Another 375,000 live in ‘disputed’ neighborhoods of Jerusalem over the 1949 Armistice line, such as French Hill, Sanhedria, Mount of Olives, and Mount Scopus.


    https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/26966/jewish-population-in-judea-and-samaria-growing-significantly/#DpRV1c2O5HHhPB67.97


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,177 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes




    Rome and Vienna in 1985

    This was the PLO.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,177 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    There are hundreds of attacks carried out by the PLO in europe ....so many plane hi-jackings.

    And all you can say is ..they stopped it didn't look good.

    No they didn't stop Odhiin. The checkpoints and security measures stopped them.

    French embassy attack the hague





    There hundreds more.Most of those plane hijackings in the 80s.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    There are hundreds of attacks carried out by the PLO in europe ....so many plane hi-jackings.

    And all you can say is ..they stopped it didn't look good.

    No they didn't stop Odhiin. The checkpoints and security measures stopped them.




    Given the extent of the Palestinian diaspora across the middle east, thats a nonsense.


    Why can't you admit you were wrong?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    We're not talking about the PLO. Or about Egypt. Or Iran or Syria. Or the conflict between Hamas and Fatah.

    That's all deflection and whataboutery. Stop it.

    We're talking about why Israel should be condemned. We've all demonstrated why, with multiple points you can't actually refute. When faced with cold, hard figures you've gotten wrong, and are called on it, you still won't admit you're wrong.

    Are you paid by the post, or something? Cos I really hope it's not on hearts and minds won...


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,177 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    We're not talking about the PLO..


    They are the palestinian authority. Or didn't you know?
    they are the elected govt in the west bank.

    So maybe the check points in the west bank are a good thing???

    Less of this.


    We're talking about why Israel should be condemned

    I am talking about why Israel should be commended. Because their soldiers RISK THEIR Lives to keep you and the rest of Europe safer.

    Now i can start post EVERY single terrorist attack the PLO and hamas carried out on European soil or we can start to have a real converstaion.

    Maybe its time people start remembering who the PLO and Hamas are.


    By the way Hamas have a kids magazine they distribute in London it incites kids to carry out suicide attacks in the UK.

    Its called Al-Fateh.

    They haven't changed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Odhinn




    I am talking about why
    (...............)the PLO and Hamas are.


    Diversionary nonsense, little better than Tactic No 1.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,177 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Diversionary nonsense, little better than Tactic No 1.

    By the way Hamas have a kids magazine they distribute in London it incites kids to carry out suicide attacks in the UK.

    Its called Al-Fateh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,177 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    I really can't believe that a country being governed by a party that hijacked numerous planes in the 80s and carried out numerous terror attacks on Europeans and has never apologized for those attacks is one you are defending.

    And the country that is trying to keep all those organizations from getting over the border and into Europe is the one being boycotted by those same Europeans.

    I mean you couldn't make it up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    I really can't believe that a country being governed by a party that hijacked numerous planes in the 80s and carried out numerous terror attacks on Europeans and has never apologized for those attacks is one you are defending.

    And the country that is trying to keep all those organizations from getting over the border and into Europe is the one being boycotted by those same Europeans.

    I mean you couldn't make it up.




    ....anything to take the spotlight off the colonial project of the Israeli state.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    By the way Hamas have a kids magazine they distribute in London it incites kids to carry out suicide attacks in the UK.

    Its called Al-Fateh.

    You realise you are arguing against nobody? We're talking about Israel and is a boycott warranted? The answer is, certainly.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,177 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Odhinn wrote: »
    ....anything to take the spotlight off the colonial project of the Israeli state.
    Anything to take the spotlight off the fact that hamas is an off shoot of the muslim brotherhood. And the PLOs bloody history in Europe and the potential danger it still poses.



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