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DoneDeal phone sale turns into violent robbery

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    #32
    minikin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭minikin


    Wompa1 wrote: »
    So they should write the article in a way that curtails people's deep seeded racism?

    You’re conflating nationality and race.

    You’re inferring a negative by accurately describing someone’s nationality, what is wrong with saying a German National is a German National? Or that a Kenyan is a Kenyan? Or a Russian is a Russian?

    It’s counter-factual on your part to suggest we shouldn’t mention nationality in the media.


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    #33
    Wompa1
    Registered Users Posts: 8,172 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    minikin wrote: »
    You’re conflating nationality and race.

    No, I'm not. I believe him to be Irish. Thus this talk of deportation to me is racist or even assuming him not to be Irish based on his name particularly considering he's only 22 is racist.


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    #34
    minikin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭minikin


    Wompa1 wrote: »
    No, I'm not. I believe him to be Irish. Thus this talk of deportation to me is racist or even assuming him not to be Irish based on his name particularly considering he's only 22 is racist.

    I have done none of the above.


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    #35
    minikin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭minikin


    Wompa1 wrote: »
    Do you remember many stories of crime in Ireland that labelled the culprit as Irish?

    You’ve never read an article about Irish crime lords????


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    #36
    endacl
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    Is there a dole/traveller angle at all?


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    #37
    Wompa1
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    minikin wrote: »
    You’ve never read an article about Irish crime lords????

    I read books about John Gilligan. His nationality was relevant in some cases as he was also running overseas operations.


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    #38
    minikin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭minikin


    Wompa1 wrote: »
    I read books about John Gilligan. His nationality was relevant in some cases as he was also running overseas operations.

    Did you get upset when they described him as Irish?
    I’m guessing no, so why get upset when someone else’s nationality is accurately described? Do you only get upset on behalf of those you see as inferior - maybe they can’t stand up for and represent themselves and need a first world voice to speak for them???? European Saviourism at it’s most ironic!


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    #39
    xckjoo
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    minikin wrote: »
    Did you get upset when they described him as Irish?
    Did you get upset when they talked about him without specifying his nationality?


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    #40
    minikin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭minikin


    xckjoo wrote: »
    Did you get upset when they talked about him without specifying his nationality?

    I’m not upset one way or the other, thanks.


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    #41
    xckjoo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,387 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    minikin wrote: »
    I’m not upset one way or the other, thanks.
    Then why do you keep coming back here complaining that they didn't specify the guys nationality in the article? Read most newspaper articles about a crime and it doesn't mention nationality.


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    #42
    gordongekko
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    Jesus... Would it make any difference if he was a white doctor. the nationality colour or job makes no difference to his actions


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    #43
    minikin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭minikin


    xckjoo wrote: »
    Then why do you keep coming back here complaining that they didn't specify the guys nationality in the article? Read most newspaper articles about a crime and it doesn't mention nationality.

    Why do I keep coming back???
    It’s called a discussion!


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    #44
    xckjoo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,387 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    minikin wrote: »
    Why do I keep coming back???
    It’s called a discussion!
    A discussion about a robbery that you keep trying to shoe horn nationality into for some reason....


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    #45
    minikin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭minikin


    xckjoo wrote: »
    A discussion about a robbery that you keep trying to shoe horn nationality into for some reason....

    Can you supply a list of aspects of the subject that are acceptable to you... your honour.


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    #46
    Wompa1
    Registered Users Posts: 8,172 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    minikin wrote: »
    Did you get upset when they described him as Irish?
    I’m guessing no, so why get upset when someone else’s nationality is accurately described? Do you only get upset on behalf of those you see as inferior - maybe they can’t stand up for and represent themselves and need a first world voice to speak for them???? European Saviourism at it’s most ironic!

    In the books? They didn't. They were by Irish authors targeted to an Irish audience so it would have been redundant.


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    #47
    xckjoo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,387 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    minikin wrote: »
    Can you supply a list of aspects of the subject that are acceptable to you... your honour.
    Nope. But I can call you on your bullsh1t attempts to shoehorn nationality into a discussion about a crime where it doesn't seem to be a factor.


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    #48
    minikin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭minikin


    xckjoo wrote: »
    Nope. But I can call you on your bullsh1t attempts to shoehorn nationality into a discussion about a crime where it doesn't seem to be a factor.

    You’re my hero!!!

    Tell me this, if the perpetrator was the victim of this crime would you object to his nationality being mentioned?
    Would you say we shouldn’t shine a light on the fact that someone of foreign origin was beaten up by an Irish person. Or would you, as I suspect, shout from the rooftops that this is a coverup so we don’t look bad?
    Sauce for the goose...


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    #49
    xckjoo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,387 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    minikin wrote: »
    You’re my hero!!!

    Tell me this, if the perpetrator was the victim of this crime would you object to his nationality being mentioned?
    Would you say we shouldn’t shine a light on the fact that someone of foreign origin was beaten up by an Irish person. Or would you, as I suspect, shout from the rooftops that this is a coverup so we don’t look bad?
    Sauce for the goose...
    Lol. I don't generally "shout from rooftops" about perceived coverups, but nice attempt at transference. Your issues are your own man. Don't assume everyone else thinks the same way.

    I'd wonder why it was relevant to mention unless they were beaten up because they were foreign. The flip side being that the criminals nationality is a reason for them committing the crime. And once again, despite what you seem to have inferred from the guys name, we've no basis to believe he isn't Irish.


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    #50
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Ok this is going around in circles now.

    Should anyone have something of note to update thread with - call me maybe


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