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Thoughts on Mercedes E220 Coupe
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Potential-Monke wrote: »Turns out the problem with my heating does appear to be the fan blower motor. Not working at all now, but having barely driven it for a few weeks I wasn't 100% on it.
It's also cutting out after starting from cold if I don't leave it idle for 5-10 minutes. Doesn't even have to be a cold day. Started it today at 3.30pm after 2 days of being parked up. Starts fine, put it into R or D and the revs will drop very low and cut out. Only happens after a certain amount of time not driven.
Not a great time to be having issues!! Still love it. That'll never change. Amazing car.
Have you had it scanned yet??? It's the only way, really when the car behaves erratically. Whats happening with your's is not normal. I know people who only start and use the car once a week, but don't have the problem you describe.
I use an iCarsoft CROPRO Diagnostic's Scanner, and it takes all the guesswork out of it. Problem develops, run a scan, fault code shows and you know straight away where you stand. My advice to you would be to get it scanned, in the 2 years that I have had mine, It has never behaved like that. ( touch wood, it won't either
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Believe it or not, but only today, I was wondering how you had been getting on since ( as you said) It's been awhile since you last posted about the Merc....and I even sent you a private msg enquiring about the car...but I sent it to the wrong Monk....Potential-Monke wrote: »Haven't posted in this is a while, said I'd give an update. Not an even road since the last post, but things going wrong are things that usually go and once replaced should be grand for another 200k.
So what I've had done in the last 6 months:
- 2 front swing arms (i think, aluminum things that are usually only on the back but on all 4 corners for this car)
- 4 new tyres - see attached pic of one of the tyres!! I wouldn't have copped this only i was taking the wheels off to give them a proper clean behind - no idea what caused this and new tyres showing no issue with similar damage.
- 1 of 3 sensors replaced in DPF. Hopefully won't have further issues. Tempted to have it removed and remap ECU - this was the above problem.
- Just failed the NCT, all 4 brake lines/hoses "badly deteriorated", that's getting done next week, handbrake only at 10% on back right (strangely, doesn't look like they tested the emissions, 0 readings, but passed...)
- Fan blower motor is gone
And that brings me to a question, as I've googled and aside from taking the blower motor out, I'm confused. I can replace that myself, looks straight forward, but can't find a part number and mechanic mentioned something about ensuring the new one has the regulator. Anyone able to get me a PN for that?
Still absolutely adore this car. Best car I've ever had, and even though I've close to 1500 spent in the last 6 months, it's still worth it. As I said, all issues which will hopefully be resolved for the remaining time I have this car (min 4 more years).
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And then, Lo and Behold...a post appears !!!
I think that you have the right idea, about the car being worth spending money on...I'd feel the same I think, And as a matter of fact, I've upgraded from a 2010 to a 2014 E 220, that will tell you what I think about them now, after having one. Most of the problems you have had, hand brake, suspension arm's, uneven tyre wear , DPF sensor, etc, would be one off...car suspensions and Irish Roads are a marriage made in hell. But now you have them sorted, that should keep you going for awhile.. For your parts Nrs, try : PartsClub.info - Mercedes-Benz parts catalog from alternative manufacturers.
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Mine is an UK import too actually. Although I think it was only there a few years when new. Could of been enough to start the damage though.
My 2006 is great for what it is. I'm a fan of the 'Kompressor' experience and it came with the full AMG kit and a good few extras. Paint is still in great condition too.
Apart from reverse sensors it still competes with newer cars inside too. Over the last year I averaged 10l/100km.
The timing chain is the big issue on them and I have taken care of it. Because of this I'm afraid of burning myself by getting rid of a car that owes me nothing and is still a nice sporty drive!
But I do like the e class coupes. It would not be until next year I would buy one if I was going to.
What I was thinking of in a car park, is the length of the doors for squeezing out. But with so many SUVs around, is it the same as them?
Ah, yes I see what you mean now..its a Coupe, and it was one of the things I warned Potential Monke about when he was buying his one. I had my eye on a Coupe too...beautiful looking car's !!! and yes, in tight parking, for sure it will be difficult if you need to open the door fully...but having said that, you only need to open it enough for yourself to get in, and thats not a problem...its only when you need to give the rear seat passengers access that you will need to open the doors fully. So even if you are in a tight parking situation, you should still be able to access the drivers seat, start it up and move it forward / backward and give yourself enough room to open the doors for your passengers. it's not an insurmountable problem. Even with my E class, I am very carefull when parking, and in supermarkets, I'll go to the furthest parking space available,,,based on the assumption that people are naturally lazy, and will always try and keep walking to the minimum Don't let the eparking stop you, if you come across a Coupe that you like. The only reason I changed mine was because they got in a lovely black MB estate, with AMG kit, and a 250 engine ( diesel ) and when I went to see it, it had already been sold. But as a consolation, the sales man gave me the keys of another MB that had come in,,,and just not to waste the trip, I drove it.......liked it and bought it, and no regrets. But until I saw the estate, I had absolutely no intention of getting out of the 2010 E class. What mileage is on it? They were and still are a fantastic car inside, and especially if AMG. It's the 1.8 Ltr 170 BHP Petrol engine in yours? Frequent oil changes are the secret in keeping the timing chains in good nick,,,was speaking to a fellow MB owner during the week, and he had a 2010 E class 2.i CDI Diesel that had done 270'000 + miles, and never a chain problem. He always used long life oil, but changed it religiously every 10'000 Klms. Its what I do too. Is it manual or automatic? My friend has absolutely no intention of getting rid of his 2005 E class. So I guess there is no panic for you to change...and worth waiting until the right car turns up. 0 -
Ah, yes I see what you mean now..its a Coupe, and it was one of the things I warned Potential Monke about when he was buying his one. I had my eye on a Coupe too...beautiful looking car's !!! and yes, in tight parking, for sure it will be difficult if you need to open the door fully...but having said that, you only need to open it enough for yourself to get in, and thats not a problem...its only when you need to give the rear seat passengers access that you will need to open the doors fully. So even if you are in a tight parking situation, you should still be able to access the drivers seat, start it up and move it forward / backward and give yourself enough room to open the doors for your passengers. it's not an insurmountable problem. Even with my E class, I am very carefull when parking, and in supermarkets, I'll go to the furthest parking space available,,,based on the assumption that people are naturally lazy, and will always try and keep walking to the minimum Don't let the eparking stop you, if you come across a Coupe that you like. The only reason I changed mine was because they got in a lovely black MB estate, with AMG kit, and a 250 engine ( diesel ) and when I went to see it, it had already been sold. But as a consolation, the sales man gave me the keys of another MB that had come in,,,and just not to waste the trip, I drove it.......liked it and bought it, and no regrets. But until I saw the estate, I had absolutely no intention of getting out of the 2010 E class. What mileage is on it? They were and still are a fantastic car inside, and especially if AMG. It's the 1.8 Ltr 170 BHP Petrol engine in yours? Frequent oil changes are the secret in keeping the timing chains in good nick,,,was speaking to a fellow MB owner during the week, and he had a 2010 E class 2.i CDI Diesel that had done 270'000 + miles, and never a chain problem. He always used long life oil, but changed it religiously every 10'000 Klms. Its what I do too. Is it manual or automatic? My friend has absolutely no intention of getting rid of his 2005 E class. So I guess there is no panic for you to change...and worth waiting until the right car turns up.
hanks for the info on parking. It does seem livable. I let people jump out now before reversing in so not too different to be honest.
Funny I do the same parking method no matter whose car I am driving. Although once I was parked with a space each side of me when a "busy mum" pulled in next to me. Hits my car with the door gerring out - with me sitting in the car! I gave her a look and roll my eyes. No apology from her....then she takes her kid out of the back and hits my car again!
Mine is high mileage, its 180k but the timing chain and sprockets have been done. Tax is high at 636 but it evens out with no car payments. Always seems to be something at NCT though, such as these brake lines. But I do like the drive and the sound of the supercharger when the foot goes down.
I have attached a pic of my car and an example of what I am looking at. I did some work on paint restoration on mine so looks fresh and to be fair looks well for its age. There is just somerhing about those e class coupes that are classy and sporty. Have the itch to change but need to see how it pans out. Like monke it would be a long term change.0 -
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Potential-Monke wrote: »Back online after a while! She's booked into the mechanics for Monday 6th-7th for the brake lines. My mechanic, who I genuinely feel is decent and won't/hasn't messed me about, said about €350 but could be more depending on the work involved. That's including him getting the lines/hoses too. He said it's one of the worst jobs on a Merc, as you pointed out some of them have to have the fuel tank removed. IIRC, he doesn't think he'll have to do it on the coupe (my mechanic friend in another county said it shouldn't be required), but as it's based on the C-Class chassis there's a possibility it might. It's the C207 model, so should have had those brake line issues fixed, but another mates brother got a 2015 one a couple of years back, and same problem. Mechanic held onto the brake lines he removed and they turned to dust in his hands (allegedly).
But as noted, once fixed they shouldn't need to be done again, it's currently at just above 210k km, so good mileage out of them all the same!
@Filla, that's a fine bus you have. I can't say whether to upgrade or not, I haven't driven your model, nor have I driven a petrol Merc (my last/first one was a 02 E220 CDI), and the current one is the E220 Bluetec CDI. I'm averaging about 6.7l/100km, but that's because it's mainly country roads and very little motorway driving, so the odd time I go on the motorway the reading for that drive brings it up to about 7.8l/100km. Tax is the highest of the 2010 E220 range, because it's a coupe it's €570 or thereabouts, whereas the saloons of the same year/model are in the €320 range. All because of the wheels apparently, everything else is the same! Wouldn't mind having a burn of the Kompressor models, but the one I have has plenty of power and I don't drive the balls out of cars anymore (even if I still like to get up to speed as quickly as possible sometimes!).
Parking is alright, but I've always had big cars so used to them anyway. Getting in and out of the back in a carpark is always done before I park, as jmeire pointed out you do need the door nearly fully open for people to get in and out of the back. I got a 3 month warranty when I got mine, and it was used for the AC issue. Don't think you'll get much more than that, depending on the garage. So any issues you will be paying for yourself, but to be expected in a 10 year old car. I was also very lucky, the interior in mine is mint save for a couple of small issues on the leather on the drivers seat, but still amazing for the year. Don't know if anyone ever sat in the back of it before I got it!
After the issues with the DPF recently, I would consider a petrol for the next one. You're getting serious mileage out of yours though, most petrol cars I've had have been worse mpg wise. Mine is also a pretty standard model, no reversing sensors, etc. If I was to go again, I'd be looking at the AMG trim versions of the E250. They have a few extras that might have been nice, but still happy out with what I have, just a case of having one cake and wanting another now.
I can't recommend it enough though, it's by far the best car I've ever had. Driving is easy, simple and enjoyable, I don't get a sore back (not do passengers, front and back) on long journeys, it's giving me a pretty reasonable mpg considering the driving I do, and I think it's a beautiful looking car before the newer ones went a bit too smooth on the shape. I'll have it for another 4 years at least and even then I'll be hard pushed to get rid of it I reckon, might be pure fancy and get me an S-Class next!
I was also told to stay away from the 2012/13 onwards in the C-Class, as they apparently use French engines (Renault and Peugeot I believe). So that's a no go for me anyway. Either way, I wouldn't go below an E-Class at this stage. Would be a step down I reckon. The one you've shown from Done Deal is lovely, but I'd keep looking for a black interior one! Don't like the brown/cream interiors personally, and I was lucky with the one I got (mostly all black with some silver trim). But that's a personal thing, and the black interiors are harder to find.
Whatever you do, best of luck with it. One of the best purchases I've made in my life tbh, and no going back now, not that I want to! I've ruined driving in one sense, because I don't believe I'll be able to change from Merc now. My dream car has changed from a Dodge Viper to an AMG GT now!
As I mentioned earlier, I've upgraded to a 2014 E class, 220 CDI,,,had the first one 2 and half years, nearly 30'000 Klms. Was not in the plan to change at all, but saw a Estate with AMG trim and 250 engine, it looked really fantastic so I went to have look...but too late, was gone when i got there, but they had another one , so I had a test drive and was so impressed that I bought it.....and now after driving it for the last 3 week's, I glad that I did buy it...and up to this, the 2010 E class was one of the most comfortable cars that I ever drove. In the 2009 - 2012 ( I think) the leather was not real leather, but an artificial fabric called "Artico" and in nearly all of them, ( mine as well ) the drivers seat fabric split...it was a known fault, Thankfully, in the new one, it's black leather ( real leather this time) Its possible to get them
repaired,,,involves removing the seat, stripping the fabric off, and taking it to a good seamstress / leather worker. My new one was originally an Northern Ireland car. bought just this side of the border, when it was about 2 years old, and where it has remained since. With full MB service history up to a bout a year ago, so I'm presently chasing down one or two service gaps... most notably the Transmission ATF change and flush...this need's to be done every 40'000 Miles or 65'000 Klms. But according the onboard service assist, the next engine oil change is due in 150 days time. No mention of the ATF change, so I'll do it myself and I have already got the Transmission oil and filter kit plus while I'm at it, I will change the brake fluid and the coolant too. These are relatively small jobs,,so I'll get them done, ad then forget about them ( until next time,,2 years into the future;) Since I got it 3 weeks ago, the low coolant warning light has come on, so I took it back to the dealership, and they got it fixed...it was the fuel filter housing, which is connected to the engine block, and hot water from the engine circulates around the fuel filter to keep it at the proper temp. Its a known fault in the OM651 engine, but it's now crossed off the list of possible future problems Apart from that, I intend to enjoy it every chance I get.;) 0 -
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