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Sexual assaults in Courtown - see OP for mod warning - updated 01/08/19

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    #362
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    This article mentions the guards are looking for a group of "Irish nationals"


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/specialist-garda%C3%AD-interview-girls-at-centre-of-courtown-sex-assault-allegations-1.3973029


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    #363
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,236 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    That’s really odd

    It’s almost like they are trying to bury the story ?!?

    Why would any news outlet try and bury the story? :confused:


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    #364
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,682 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Boggles wrote: »
    Why would any news outlet try and bury the story? :confused:

    This is the question. It’s really odd isn’t it


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    #365
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,236 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    This is the question. It’s really odd isn’t it

    It's been reported on extensively.

    There is no one trying to hide it as a story.

    The only odd thing is you trying to claim it is being buried.


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    #366
    Thinkingaboutit
    Registered Users Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Thinkingaboutit


    Usually when there are minimal to no details on the perpetrators of such crimes, a reasonable surmise can be made. Predictable.


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    #367
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,486 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Really odd how this is being reported.
    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    The way this case is being reported is really odd.
    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Bit weird that the various news articles aren’t giving descriptions of the perpetrators
    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    The reporting on this case has been really strange.
    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Even very minor cases in this country has huge levels of detail re suspects

    This one. Eh.......no descriptions allowed for some reason.

    Wtf like?
    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    There should be detailed descriptions of the suspects circulated by now.
    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    That’s really odd

    It’s almost like they are trying to bury the story ?!?

    You know what I find really odd?


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    #368
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    That’s really odd

    It’s almost like they are trying to bury the story ?!?

    What do you expect from Kilkenny?
    If these lads have connections with the local GAA club no major news outlet will touch it!
    The parish priest will put in a good word for them....


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    #369
    iebamm2580
    Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    Was on tv3 news with reporting in courtown.


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    #370
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,682 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    iebamm2580 wrote: »
    Was on tv3 news with reporting in courtown.

    Did they mention a description of the suspects or?


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    #371
    martingriff
    Registered Users Posts: 11,019 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Hal3000 wrote: »
    Read this

    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057996721/28/#post110802074

    And countless other threads were posters including myself are accused of being barbaric for wanting to have harsh sentences for repeat violent or sexual crimes.

    Non one on that page mentioned you should be lenient


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    #372
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,486 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Did they mention a description of the suspects or?

    Why is it important to you? Seriously.

    The AGS haven't asked for the public's help in a manhunt.


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    #373
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,682 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Overheal wrote: »
    Why is it important to you? Seriously.

    The AGS haven't asked for the public's help in a manhunt.

    It’s important because we want the suspects to be apprehended ASAP and to not give descriptions leads to unwise speculation


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    #374
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,486 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    It’s important because we want the suspects to be apprehended ASAP and to not give descriptions leads to unwise speculation

    How does releasing a description help speed up apprehension by the AGS?

    Have you been deputized? Have your 'contacts' been deputized?


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    #375
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,682 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Overheal wrote: »
    How does releasing a description help speed up apprehension by the AGS?

    Have you been deputized? Have your 'contacts' been deputized?

    It could lead to the general public giving a lead to AGS

    This is absolutely routine in 99% of investigations


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    #376
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,682 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Thinkingaboutit wrote: »
    Usually when there are minimal to no details on the perpetrators of such crimes, a reasonable surmise can be made. Predictable.

    This is what I am talking about when there is a vacuum of information


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    #377
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,577 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Did they mention a description of the suspects or?
    Why are you so obsessed with getting descriptions? If the guards have suspects there is no need to issue descriptions. Indeed doing so may result in the pointing of fingers at people who are completely innocent. Equally any "suspects" would have a right to a fair trial. Putting all their details up in public at this stage may be prejudicial to any prosecution. You seem to think something is unusual when it's very easy to come up with valid reasons for the way it's been handled

    I would suggest leaving all this to the professionals who actually know what they are doing


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    #378
    iebamm2580
    Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Did they mention a description of the suspects or?

    Just mentioned Kilkenny youths were being questioned, sounds like group of homegrown animals.


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    #379
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    It could lead to the general public giving a lead to AGS

    This is absolutely routine in 99% of investigations

    Liar.


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    #380
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    It could lead to the general public giving a lead to AGS

    This is absolutely routine in 99% of investigations

    Consider the reasons they may not go public

    Maybe they know the victims and they want to protect their identity

    Maybe its just too vague, they were tall, dark hair etc. That could be almost anyone

    They already know who they are looking for

    It says it's a Irish gang from kilkenny. Do your contacts know more?


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    #381
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,682 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Consider the reasons they may not go public

    Maybe they know the victims and they want to protect their identity

    Maybe its just too vague, they were tall, dark hair etc. That could be almost anyone

    They already know who they are looking for

    It says it's a Irish gang from kilkenny. Do your contacts know more?

    I’m not getting into what locals are saying


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    #382
    Anto Lynch
    Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭Anto Lynch


    iebamm2580 wrote: »
    Just mentioned Kilkenny youths were being questioned, sounds like group of homegrown animals.

    Why? Because they said they are "kilkenny youths" ?

    Means f all.


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    #383
    Calhoun
    Registered Users Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Beasty wrote: »
    Why are you so obsessed with getting descriptions? If the guards have suspects there is no need to issue descriptions. Indeed doing so may result in the pointing of fingers at people who are completely innocent. Equally any "suspects" would have a right to a fair trial. Putting all their details up in public at this stage may be prejudicial to any prosecution. You seem to think something is unusual when it's very easy to come up with valid reasons for the way it's been handled

    I would suggest leaving all this to the professionals who actually know what they are doing

    Just to back this up we have had a few cases this year alone that have fallen apart due to reporting in the media.

    Our judiciary do not take this kindly what so ever. If people really do believe in the rule of law and justice then we have to let them do their job.

    People can and should be concerned, they should make sure the powers at be know that they care that they follow up on these cases but leave it at that.


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    #384
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    I’m not getting into what locals are saying

    I'm sure anything the locals are saying is just idle gossip.


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    #385
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Consider the reasons they may not go public

    Maybe they know the victims and they want to protect their identity

    Maybe its just too vague, they were tall, dark hair etc. That could be almost anyone

    They already know who they are looking for

    It says it's a Irish gang from kilkenny. Do your contacts know more?


    Specifically, it says "Irish nationals"


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    #386
    Anto Lynch
    Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭Anto Lynch


    eviltwin wrote: »
    I'm sure anything the locals are saying is just idle gossip.

    It always is, until it becomes more than idle gossip.


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    #387
    iebamm2580
    Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    Anto Lynch wrote: »
    Why? Because they said they are "kilkenny youths" ?

    Means f all.

    Could be wrong but don't think Kilkenny is as diverse as Dublin so basing my opinion simply on probability, look it will come out soon enough anyway.


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    #388
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,486 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    It could lead to the general public giving a lead to AGS

    This is absolutely routine in 99% of investigations

    source?


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    #389
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,236 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    I’m not getting into what locals are saying

    Is that because what you all ready said is complete bullshít?

    :p


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    #390
    Anto Lynch
    Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭Anto Lynch


    Boggles wrote: »
    Is that because what you all ready said is complete bullshít?

    :p

    Maybe its because he was told not to my the mods?


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    #391
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,682 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Boggles wrote: »
    Is that because what you all ready said is complete bullshít?

    :p

    No. See mod instructions


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