Sexual assaults in Courtown - see OP for mod warning - updated 01/08/19

Anto Lynch

Not surprising. AFA had an actual paedo in their ranks. And they fought with each other over whether to expel him or not. Degenerates.

Boggles

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Even very minor cases in this country has huge levels of detail re suspects

This one. Eh.......no descriptions allowed for some reason.

Wtf like?

It is understood gardaí have made initial enquiries with the girls but that more detailed interviews with specialist gardaí have yet to take place. This is in order to allow for the initial shock of the alleged incident to subside.

As a result, detectives have yet to establish the facts of the case. There have been no arrests so far and gardaí said they do not have a description of the alleged attackers.

Or you know maybe the girls are so fúcking traumatised their immediate well being is far more important then some bottom dwellers on the internet baying to know the color of the alleged attackers.

:rolleyes:

Beechwoodspark

Sorry now but in similar cases descriptions are circulated ASAP to help apprehend the suspects

Your bs reasons above are simply bluster and deflection. Your fooling no one

STB.

Anto Lynch wrote: »

Not surprising. AFA had an actual paedo in their ranks. And they fought with each other over whether to expel him or not. Degenerates.

Which has nothing to do with this thread.

Can we stop with the petty squabbling. There are people quick to jump to conclusions and there are very sensitive PC people out there. I get it. Enough with the point scoring and organisation demonstration pictures.

Lets get back to the story. The reporting has been very strange which would lead any person with any modicum of cop on to realise that precise details have not been released for reasons unknown.

If there was genuine concern that they are actually looking for someone, they would not be reporting it in this manner. There is something overriding this. The press are being overly cautious and there is possibly a reason for that. If the AGS thought there was further threat or needed assistance in ID'ing they would have issued descriptions.

Ballso

Boggles wrote: »

Or you know maybe the girls are so fúcking traumatised their immediate well being is far more important then some bottom dwellers on the internet baying to know the color of the alleged attackers.

:rolleyes:

Yet the media mentions a vicious Kilkenny based gang.

Anto Lynch

STB. wrote: »

Which has nothing to do with this thread.

Can we stop with the petty squabbling. There are people quick to jump to conclusions and there are very sensitive PC people out there. I get it. Enough with the point scoring and organisation demonstration pictures.

Lets get back to the story. The reporting has been very strange which would lead any person with any modicum of cop on to realise that precise details have not been released for reasons unknown.

If there was genuine concern that they are actually looking for someone, they would not be reporting it in this manner. There is something overriding this. The press are being overly cautious and there is possibly a reason for that. If the AGS thought there was further threat or needed assistance in ID'ing they would have issued descriptions.

Sorry it was in a reply to another posters comments.

Assetbacked

The Gardaí aren't looking for anyone, they know exactly who they're after. Otherwise they would say to be on the lookout for an on-the-run gang. Presumably the "gang" are known to the girls in that case.

The allegations have been treated as credible sexual assault allegations at this stage. There doesn't seem to be much more than allegations at this stage released in the media.

Boggles

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Your bs reasons above are simply bluster and deflection. Your fooling no one

The quote was from the Irish Times.

Deflection from what exactly?

STB.

Ballso wrote: »

Yet the media mentions a vicious Kilkenny based gang.

They know who they are.


They have their names. Kilkenny City.

Ballso

There are vicious gangs in Kilkenny now?

eagle eye

Social media running wild as usual looking for names to lynch and destroy online. No waiting for due process, just give them names and let them destroy their reputation and character and if it turns out that nothing happened so what.
The land of the stupid is what I call social media.

Boggles

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

the kk thing is a diversion from what I’ve heard from local contacts voices in my head

Fixed that for you.

Harvey Weinstein

No point speculating at this stage, however it does seem suspicious that a gang of rapists are at large and no description is given to the public.

Its also suspicious that residents of the local direct provision centre were (out of the blue) shipped out of the area less than 24 hours after the incident. It may be nothing but people are obviously going to make a connection there.

Boggles

eagle eye wrote: »

What I'd love to have is information on the average age of parents of victims. I notice younger parents are very eager to hand off kids to other people while older parents spend very little time away from their children.

WTF?

They were allegedly sexually assaulted by a gang of men, do you think their parents handed their kids to these men?

Boggles

Harvey Weinstein wrote: »

Its also suspicious that residents of the local direct provision centre were (out of the blue) shipped out of the area less than 24 hours after the incident. It may be nothing but people are obviously going to make a connection there.

I thought they refused to leave?

Also starting your post with "No point Speculating" and then widely speculating is pretty funny.

Beechwoodspark

Boggles wrote: »

Fixed that for you.

Sorry you havnt a clue on this one boggles

Have plenty of local contacts in courtown from the wife’s family.

antix80

DrumSteve wrote: »

A child has been attacked and the same assorted tossers come in to **** themselves into a frenzy thinking the perps have a tan.

Utter Consternation wrote: »

Excellent post Stevo. Same cowardly cnuts hiding behind the old forked tongue comments.

The usual leftist extremists sniffing out threads like this, using vulgar language in an attempt to shame people who dare to ask the question: Who are these violent criminals committing these vile acts and what should we do about it?

You're right.. God forbid they "have a tan" as you put it. Translation: God forbid they may come from ****hole countries that neither respect children, women nor the citizens or laws of the countries they colonise - because then we'd have to wonder is their culture compatible with ours, and what does that mean for our immigration policy.

Harvey Weinstein

Boggles wrote: »

I thought they refused to leave?

Also starting your post with "No point Speculating" and then widely speculating is pretty funny.

I'm saying that without any description or information, its natural that people are going to make a connection there..even if there is no connection at all.

This is what happens when descriptions of perpetrators are withheld.

BPKS

Mirium is going to "have the latest on the story" on the Sean O Rourke show this morning.

splinter65

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

There should be detailed descriptions of the suspects circulated by now.

They can’t put out detailed descriptions until they are sure that the descriptions are accurate.
Getting accurate descriptions from 3 different alleged victims is difficult enough but when they’re young girls and the alleged attacks happened in a dark unlit wooded area late at night it’s even harder.
The best approach for the public to take until the matter has been investigated is for parents to supervise young teenagers properly and avoid being unnecessarily in remote areas known for anti social behavior late at night.
It’s not like we need vigilante gangs roaming around looking for anyone who fits the description is it?

Augme

weldoninhio wrote: »

Augme wrote: »

Why? What's the point of that?

Well if as the papers say, they are a “Leinster based sex gang”, then I’d imagine they have done this type of thing before. Putting out a description or photofit might jog someone’s memory, might be someone’s neighbour, might get them caught before they ruin someone else’s life.

But shure we wouldn’t want that, would we?? FFS.

No offence but you come across as very naive. I can't imagine they know they are Leinster based but have no clue who they are. Also, honestly, there isn't even any point in arresting them know if they have no evidence against them.

boombang

Boggles wrote: »

How so?

Let's be explicit about it. If they have some info on the alleged perpetrators, why would they not give details that would help catch them? The absence of any such details makes me think that they could be members of some minority (black, Muslim, traveller take your pick), but the media won't publish for fear of hurting the feelings of whatever minority this could be. This happens often in the Irish media reporting, be it black youths in Balbriggan, or thefts by traveller gangs.

Such omissions might be justified if there's a real risk that vigilantees might mistakenly attack innocent men from those minorities. That's an if. This could be justified if that risk is greater than the benefit of having the public's help in tracking down the attackers. Also an if.

I don't know what the balance is here. If the Guards already have a good idea who the perpetrators are, then there may be little benefit of making the profile known. However, I hope the Gardai and the media are getting it right and they're not withholding useful information that could help catch criminals and stop further crimes because of misplaced oversensitivity about minorities.

eagle eye

Boggles wrote:

They were allegedly sexually assaulted by a gang of men, do you think their parents handed their kids to these men?

Accidentally posted in wrong thread.

Boggles

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Sorry you havnt a clue on this one boggles

Have plenty of local contacts in courtown from the wife’s family.

Are they detectives working the case?

If not, then you or them haven't a fúcking clue, stop spoofing.

splinter65

Ballso wrote: »

There are vicious gangs in Kilkenny now?

Possibly. Why would Kilkenny be exempt?

Ballso

Ballso wrote: »

There are vicious gangs in Kilkenny now?

https://extra.ie/2018/08/19/news/irish-news/gardai-on-high-alert-after-nightclub-gang-targets-drunk-irish-women

Anto Lynch

Ballso wrote: »

https://extra.ie/2018/08/19/news/irish-news/gardai-on-high-alert-after-nightclub-gang-targets-drunk-irish-women

Hmmmm.

Boggles

boombang wrote: »

Let's be explicit about it. If they have some info on the alleged perpetrators, why would they not give details that would help catch them? The absence of any such details makes me think that they could be members of some minority (black, Muslim, traveller take your pick), but the media won't publish for fear of hurting the feelings of whatever minority this could be. This happens often in the Irish media reporting, be it black youths in Balbriggan, or thefts by traveller gangs.

Such omissions might be justified if there's a real risk that vigilantees might mistakenly attack innocent men from those minorities. That's an if. This could be justified if that risk is greater than the benefit of having the public's help in tracking down the attackers. Also an if.

I don't know what the balance is here. If the Guards already have a good idea who the perpetrators are, then there may be little benefit of making the profile known. However, I hope the Gardai and the media are getting it right and they're not withholding useful information that could help catch criminals and stop further crimes because of misplaced oversensitivity about minorities.

Or you could be over thinking it.

It is understood gardaí have made initial enquiries with the girls but that more detailed interviews with specialist gardaí have yet to take place. This is in order to allow for the initial shock of the alleged incident to subside.

As a result, detectives have yet to establish the facts of the case. There have been no arrests so far and gardaí said they do not have a description of the alleged attackers.

Utter Consternation

antix80 wrote: »

You're right.. God forbid they "have a tan" as you put it. Translation: God forbid they may come from ****hole countries that neither respect children, women nor the citizens or laws of the countries they colonise - because then we'd have to wonder is their culture compatible with ours, and what does that mean for our immigration policy.

Take it easy there antix, less of the shouting. You'll give yourself a hernia.

So you're saying that it would be fine if the alleged rapists were home grown?

Why do you need to shoe horn our wonderful, caring immigration policy into this?

Will you feel like you've egg on your face if they're not from out of town??

DrumSteve

antix80 wrote: »

The usual leftist extremists sniffing out threads like this, using vulgar language in an attempt to shame people who dare to ask the question: WHO ARE THESE VIOLENT CRIMINALS COMMITTING THESE VILE ACTS AND WHAT SHOULD WE DO ABOUT IT?

You're right.. God forbid they "have a tan" as you put it. Translation: God forbid they may come from ****hole countries that neither respect children, women nor the citizens or laws of the countries they colonise - because then we'd have to wonder is their culture compatible with ours, and what does that mean for our immigration policy.

Talk about proving my point entirely.