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5starpool

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

No they are not.

Nor admins either. They are only available to techy guys with very restricted access who query the database, and this will only be done when there is a legal order to do so. That position has been stated multiple times.

I'm amazed someone with Harry's milage here thought mods can read PMs other than their own.

Damien360

5starpool wrote: »

Nor admins either. They are only available to techy guys with very restricted access who query the database, and this will only be done when there is a legal order to do so. That position has been stated multiple times.

I'm amazed someone with Harry's milage here thought mods can read PMs other than their own.

A quick look at the dispute resolution page would confirm this. You will see mods and Cmods requesting PM’s between parties.

Agent Coulson

Back to actual football matters Keita could be out for a while is the latest news tonight.

5starpool

Wheety wrote: »

Did Rafa do 11? I know Rodgers did. While 12 is the all time record :eek:

Klopp is the quickest Liverpool manager in history to reach 300 points. He's done it in 146 games. Took Kenny 150 to do it in the 80s. (I presume that is adjusted for the 80s games to be based on 3pts, but I read it on the LFC website). Edit: It's obviously adjusted or else it would mean that Kenny won his first 150 games

I have to butt in here. You are either very young and are making an incorrect assumption, or have a bad memory, but 3 points for a win came in a few years before Kennys first stint as manager.

5starpool

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Keita could be out for a while is the latest news tonight.

Mr Crystal?

cj maxx

5starpool wrote: »

I have to butt in here. You are either very young and are making an incorrect assumption, or have a bad memory, but 3 points for a win came in a few years before Kennys first stint as manager.

A quick Google shows it came in in 1981. Thought it was earlier

Damien360

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Back to actual football matters Keita could be out for a while is the latest news tonight.

Where are you reading that ? I can’t find anything newer than the club statement before last game. No mention of time past that game.

Agent Coulson

Maddock's piece in tomorrows Mirror tonight.

Speak Now

cjmc wrote: »

A quick Google shows it came in in 1981. Thought it was earlier

This change cost us the league 38 years later

Also goal average would have won it for us in 1989, 14 years too late this time!

garra

Crikey it looks like we will see Milner and Lallana shuffling about if any of the primary midfielders need rest or get injured, with Oxlade and Shaq as the wildcards. Was thinking we could do with Keita's energy about the pitch this season, but with 1 game per week for a while we should be ok for a while.

gimli2112

Speak Now wrote: »

This change cost us the league 38 years later

Also goal average would have won it for us in 1989, 14 years too late this time!

They keep changing the rules just to screw us over in the future

Dickerty

5starpool wrote: »

I'm amazed someone with Harry's milage here thought mods can read PMs other than their own.

He's getting on now, mind isn't what it used to be...

kingshankly

Only two games in and only two teams with 100% record (which will end this weekend) with Utd/city/spurs having three easy matches this weekend vital we put arsenal away the weekend
I know it’s only August but it feels like the run in already 🙈🙈

Wheety

5starpool wrote: »

I have to butt in here. You are either very young and are making an incorrect assumption, or have a bad memory, but 3 points for a win came in a few years before Kennys first stint as manager.

Yeah, I realise that now. When I posted I had mixed it up with the prem going from 22 teams to 20 for some reason

SlickRic

Turtyturd wrote: »

The offside trap we’re playing reminds me of how we defended free kicks last season. Pundits went on and on about it talking about how we’d be caught out, and every match had numerous posts on here talking about how we ‘got lucky’ multiple times in each game by catching teams offside. Luck has little to do with it, we either catch them off or we don’t and the first mistake will be followed by ‘I told you so’ comments ignoring the 99 times it worked previously. If we implement this as well as the free kick defending there will be nothing to worry about.

precisely.

our analysts have obviously worked out that the odds in our favour that there won't be a goal if we play a high line; knowing that there will be the very odd time we'll get caught. but they've decided it's obviously a better tactic than trying to head the ball away from our penalty spot.

it's the same sort of thing that Pep gets criticised for in terms of how his teams defend set pieces. i'm open to correction, but I'm pretty sure he's said that he doesn't focus a lot on set pieces because he doesn't get any joy out of it. he has made the calculated gamble that if his team presses the ball as high as they do, and control the football as much as they do, and spend their extra training time perfecting that, then they should be able to defend the odd ball into the box.

no team can do absolutely everything perfectly.

murpho999

Regarding the high line, isn't it also something that they will get better at as well with more games under their belt and within 10 -12 games it will be smoother than it appears to be now?

Do people think Klopp and his coaches are stupid and don't work things out?

Boom_Bap

Also, it can be managed during a game if it's not working

rob316

murpho999 wrote: »

Regarding the high line, isn't it also something that they will get better at as well with more games under their belt and within 10 -12 games it will be smoother than it appears to be now?

Do people think Klopp and his coaches are stupid and don't work things out?

Also against the likes of Norwich and Southampton its fine, there is nothing to suggest we will set up the same way against Arsenal this weekend.

MD1990

Think the biggest reason for our defensive decline so far is our players are out of form.

Van Dijk probably made more mistakes in the last 4 games than all of last season. He has still played well but has made some errors.

Fitz*

MD1990 wrote: »

Think the biggest reason for our defensive decline so far is our players are out of form.

Van Dijk probably made more mistakes in the last 4 games than all of last season. He has still played well but has made some errors.

The one that has worried me the most was Yoshida outjumping him for a header on goal against Southampton. Luckily for him, Adrian made a greatly save, and most of the attention went on that instead.

MD1990

FitzShane wrote: »

The one that has worried me the most was Yoshida outjumping him for a header on goal against Southampton. Luckily for him, Adrian made a greatly save, and most of the attention went on that instead.

Poor for Ings miss as well.

We dont seem to be tracking runners the whole back 4. Risky.

Bandana boy

Getting very worried about Saturday , defensively we look suspect , have not been able to keep a clean sheet so far this season and up against a bang in form Aubameyang .
Its going to be a long week

Alonso77

Anyone else worried about the prospect of being worried?

BullBlackNova

Alonso77 wrote: »

Anyone else worried about the prospect of being worried?

Not yet. But I am a little worried that I might get worried about the prospect of being worried...

murpho999

Bandana boy wrote: »

Getting very worried about Saturday , defensively we look suspect , have not been able to keep a clean sheet so far this season and up against a bang in form Aubameyang .
Its going to be a long week

Here we go, so you don't they'll work on that?

Also, you don't think our front three will cause Arsenal's weak defence any problems either?

They've only scored two goal against Newcastle and one against Burnley whilst conceding one. Hardly earth shattering.

Harry Palmr

Good to see Sturridge continuing the grand tradition for faded names of finding a gig in Turkey's Super Lig.

Super Gunners Fact - Firmino has scored against them at Anfield every season.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYPgCagtHTc

not yet

BullBlackNova wrote: »

Not yet. But I am a little worried that I might get worried about the prospect of being worried...

yeah I'm worried..

Osmosis Jones

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Good to see Sturridge continuing the grand tradition for faded names of finding a gig in Turkey's Super Lig.

Super Gunners Fact - Firmino has scored against them at Anfield every season.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYPgCagtHTc

Even better fact (that will 100% get people upset for jinxing) Bobby, Mane, and Salah have all scored in every single game against Arsenal at Anfield.

gimli2112

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Even better fact (that will 100% get people upset for jinxing) Bobby, Mane, and Salah have all scored in every single game against Arsenal at Anfield.

Sigh, I was going to take Harry to task for his jinxing but got distracted by all the Bobby goals.

Dickerty

MD1990 wrote: »

We dont seem to be tracking runners the whole back 4. Risky.

That's hardly deliberate! We have been changing the 3 CMs every game, and 2 of the back 4, so it's a continuity problem. Plus Ings is a very quick and tricky guy. No shame in losing him in the box.

ERG89

FitzShane wrote: »

The one that has worried me the most was Yoshida outjumping him for a header on goal against Southampton.

Chamberlain was meant to be marking Yoshida but completely lost him & he got the jump on Van Dijk. Not sure what he's expected to do in that position, a runner will always get the jump on a static defender unless there is a large size discrepancy.

BorneTobyWilde

Bandana boy wrote: »

Getting very worried about Saturday , defensively we look suspect , have not been able to keep a clean sheet so far this season and up against a bang in form Aubameyang .
Its going to be a long week

We have 13 shots on target in 2 games and 6 goals, while conceding two. One down to Adrian.
I think we'll be fine. Nothing to fear that's for sure

Luckycharms_74

FitzShane wrote: »

The one that has worried me the most was Yoshida outjumping him for a header on goal against Southampton. Luckily for him, Adrian made a greatly save, and most of the attention went on that instead.

MD1990 wrote: »

Poor for Ings miss as well.

We dont seem to be tracking runners the whole back 4. Risky.

Ox was marking Yoshida and just left him run without tracking him. A running jump vs standing jump from VVD would have made a difference too.

Adrian probably should have come to take that cross , he was half thinking to come but went back on his goalline.

BTW Ward Prowse has great delivery (Charlie Adam mkII)

Osmosis Jones

I don't really blame van Dijk for not getting to Yoshida on that header, it was well within the 6 yard box and Adrian should have been coming out to claim it. He even starts to come for it and then changes his mind and runs back to the line.

Talisman

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

I've meant to ask this before - does anyone know the reasoning behind swapping the fullbacks when defending corners? It doesn't always happen but I've noticed it a few times and that clip is an example of it - Robertson and TAA are on the opposite sides of the 6 yard box to what you would normally expect.

Dickerty

Talisman wrote: »

I've meant to ask this before - does anyone know the reasoning behind swapping the fullbacks when defending corners? It doesn't always happen but I've noticed it a few times and that clip is an example of it - Robertson and TAA are on the opposite sides of the 6 yard box to what you would normally expect.

To get them into their natural foot for clearing?

Boom_Bap

Talisman wrote: »

I've meant to ask this before - does anyone know the reasoning behind swapping the fullbacks when defending corners? It doesn't always happen but I've noticed it a few times and that clip is an example of it - Robertson and TAA are on the opposite sides of the 6 yard box to what you would normally expect.

their stronger foot for blocking goes across the goal, less chance of slicing into your own net.

Talisman

Dickerty wrote: »

To get them into their natural foot for clearing?

Boom_Bap wrote: »

their stronger foot for blocking goes across the goal, less chance of slicing into your own net.

I've thought that too but they don't always swap.

BorneTobyWilde

Sometimes you have to applaud the ball into the box, it was a great corner with whip and dip.

RollieFingers

Find it a bit mad to see people worrying about the next game, talking about defensive frailties etc, I think the Pool have had a great start to the season, first month or so the only important thing is getting points on the board, not how the team plays.

Pool will hammer Arsenal, Sokratis and Luiz back tracking against a Liverpool counter attack is going to be fun to watch.

Agent Coulson

RollieFingers wrote: »

Find it a bit mad to see people worrying about the next game, talking about defensive frailties etc, I think the Pool have had a great start to the season, first month or so the only important thing is getting points on the board, not how the team plays.

Pool will hammer Arsenal, Sokratis and Luiz back tracking against a Liverpool counter attack is going to be fun to watch.

The same could be said for Arsenal with the pace of Pepe, Aubameyang and Lacazette putting pressure on the new highline Liverpool are playing.

marklazarcovic

I can't see a hammering, can see a high scoring game for sure though.

BullBlackNova

marklazarcovic wrote: »

I can't see a hammering, can see a high scoring game for sure though.

It's got 4-3 written all over it, I think. At least that's what you would guess with our high line and their soft defence and two very potent attacks.

Cue: 0-0 draw.

dmigsy

Arsenal have conceded a butt-load of goals at Anfield recently. They will be a hell of a lot more worried than Liverpool. Think they'll try to keep it tight but I'm not sure they are able to play that way yet with all their changes.

I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see Lacazette and Pepe start on the bench as they look to keep Liverpool out. Would be great to see an early 3 goal blast from Liverpool to settle it early (I know that sounds ridiculously demanding but this team are capable of it!).

Fromvert

Just look at Arsenal's defence and midfield that have lined out the first two games of the season, kids and very average players through out. If our midfield and front three can't run all over them I'll be shocked. Yes their front three (not that he'll play all three, as dmigsy says above he could very likely only play one) are very good but Arsenal can't dog out a game. We'll score at least three and stroll to the win. They're weak and will break once the screw is turned.

MD1990

I am quite sure the defense will up their game against Arsenal. Track runners etc.

jasonb

Anyone here signed up to The Athletic? Have seen a lot of buzz about it and am tempted, but am wondering if anyone using it could tell me what they think.

Thanks...

Charlie19

jasonb wrote: »

Anyone here signed up to The Athletic? Have seen a lot of buzz about it and am tempted, but am wondering if anyone using it could tell me what they think.

Thanks...

I've only noticed Agent C mention it. I wouldn't be too bothered myself.

Knex*

Doesn't seem worth it to me either tbh.

murpho999

Knex. wrote: »

Doesn't seem worth it to me either tbh.

€3.99 per month for an annual sub is not bad in fairness. You can't expect journalism to survive for nothing.

I might try the trial and see what the articles are like. James Pearse, ex of Liverpool Echo is there now if anyone misses him.