Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2019/2020

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B_ecke_r wrote: »

he won nearly everything he could @ domestic level and also the only English player in about 40 years to win Player of the year.

Not his biggest fan but there's plenty with books out who are lower level than he was

The problem with Owen's book, is that anything of interest is from his early career, all of which is 15+ years ago at this stage. He's covered quite a bit of it already in interviews over the years.
The serialization stuff is boring to me. I get he gets money from the paper, and it adds whatever controversy it can to generate hype for sales, but I don't watch soap drama's for a reason.

Nerdlingr

Umaro wrote: »

Did you just give me homework?

Yikes fella

ha ha, you probably picked out the one and only post where i praised him !! :D
Think i may have been delirious after his bicycle kick !!

Had a quick look myself, justa few brief posts ...jaysus..poor emre..i barely gave him the time of day.


https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105994160&postcount=9127

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=104672282&postcount=6606

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105738259&postcount=2950

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105603456&postcount=8963

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=102474182&postcount=7594

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=97666940&postcount=3125

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105364255&postcount=4573

Can was grand. Nothing special. So i'm not trying to re-write or flip on him as was suggested.
People are allowed voice an opinion without it being suggested as some of flip-flop revisionism.
I never really rated the guy, then or now.

The Good Ole Boys

Nerdlingr wrote: »

ha ha, you probably picked out the one and only post where i praised him !! :D
Think i may have been delirious after his bicycle kick !!

Had a quick look myself, justa few brief posts ...jaysus..poor emre..i barely gave him the time of day.


https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105994160&postcount=9127

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=104672282&postcount=6606

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105738259&postcount=2950

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105603456&postcount=8963

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=102474182&postcount=7594

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=97666940&postcount=3125

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105364255&postcount=4573

Can, Moreno and Benteke. We've come a long way the past year or so.

BorneTobyWilde

Fabinho didn't play in a lot of the games in first half of season that we dropped points in.

Chelsea 1-1 Away. Didn't start
City 0-0 Home. Didn't start
Arsenal 1-1 Away , started
City 2-1 Away , Didn't start
Leicester 1-1 Home , Didn't start
West Ham 1-1 Home, Started
United 0-0 Away , Started
Everton 0-0 Away, Started . So did Origi, Firmino on bench !

We won every game after Everton, Fabinho an ever-present. Once he got in side and found his feet we've not lost a game in League.

noodler

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Fabinho didn't play in a lot of the games in first half of season that we dropped points in.

Chelsea 1-1 Away. Didn't start
City 0-0 Home. Didn't start
Arsenal 1-1 Away , started
City 2-1 Away , Didn't start
Leicester 1-1 Home , Didn't start
West Ham 1-1 Home, Started
United 0-0 Away , Started
Everton 0-0 Away, Started . So did Origi, Firmino on bench !

We won every game after Everton, Fabinho an ever-present. Once he got in side and found his feet we've not lost a game in League.

Well we've only lost one! Fabinho or no.

Osmosis Jones

Fab's our best midfielder, there's not a defensive mid in the world I'd take ahead of him except for maybe Kante.

The White Wolf

If we still had Can instead of Keita I couldn't say I'd be disappointed. Can played his part for us, bossed games at times and we knew what we had in him. People giving him stick when he left the club as amicably as anyone can in this day and age is bizarre.

ERG89

The White Wolf wrote: »

If we still had Can instead of Keita I couldn't say I'd be disappointed. Can played his part for us, bossed games at times and we knew what we had in him.

Bossed some games but was anonymous for just as many.
He was being linked to Bayern & Barca in recent weeks but I couldn't see him doing anything at either club that he isn't already doing at Juve; which consists mainly of sitting down watching & picking up a medal for doing very little.

shamrock55

B_ecke_r wrote: »

it be nice to win it but I'd much rather win the league cup if given the option.

That's hilarious

BorneTobyWilde

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Fab's our best midfielder, there's not a defensive mid in the world I'd take ahead of him except for maybe Kante.

Kante's a short ass though, Fabinho can play centre back, and has inspector gadget legs for those what seem impossible interceptions.

Fab wins for me.

shamrock55

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Kante's a short ass though, Fabinho can play centre back, and has inspector gadget legs for those what seem impossible interceptions.

Fab wins for me.

Kante doesn't need long lanky legs though, he reads the game so well and covers a pitch like nobody else, fabs good but Kantes better

AndyBoBandy

shamrock55 wrote: »

Kante doesn't need long lanky legs though, he reads the game so well and covers a pitch like nobody else, fabs good but Kantes better

Who’s the better central defender?

charolais0153

Widdensushi wrote: »

a book !!!! the man is not the brightest and didn't accomplish that much of note to have a book out

Ballon d'or?

shamrock55

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Who’s the better central defender?

Between who

The Good Ole Boys

shamrock55 wrote: »

Between who

Fab and Kante.

~Rebel~

shamrock55 wrote: »

How sad and lonesome do you have to be to report someone to a mod, too many snowflakes around I think

Ah here, insult people all ya want, but can we hold back on normalizing right wing catchphrases?


In general, is it just me or has there been a little bit of a tonal shift that direction in here over the last wee while? A little more general anger, a little less general empathy and thought.

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This thread is mental.

Anything could be the topic when you log in, sometimes even football.

gimli2112

It's usually Liverpool related. Champions Leagues, ex-players, current players, how much we hate each other, how much we hate everyone else, how much we love pandas......

Agent Coulson

This lad is trying to get Kante to join Fab in midfield.

https://twitter.com/FrankKhalidUK/status/1168608796819804161

brevity

~Rebel~ wrote: »

In general, is it just me or has there been a little bit of a tonal shift that direction in here over the last wee while? A little more general anger, a little less general empathy and thought.

Yup. I’d agree. But then I’d punch you :mad:

Fitz*

Fabinho & Kante are not the same type of midfielder, so shouldn't really be compared IMO.

Fabinho is a sitting midfielder who likes to tackle, sometimes after the opposition player is gone passed him. Likes to go to ground too. He often sits deeper than other midfielders as a starting position also.

Kante plays more higher up the field and likes to press and win the ball through interceptions mainly. Uses his energy to get around the field and knick the ball that way. He is more comparable to Hendo or Gini in the current Liverpool set up than Fabinho. Kante is not a sitting midfielder.

Kante has always played ahead of another midfielder such as Drinkwater, Matic and now Jorginho. Fabinho has always been that sitting player with someone ahead of him.

RollieFingers

Fabinho is better than Kante all day long.

daheff

Fabulous all day long for me. Don't get me wrong, Kante is an excellent player. but for the way we play, Fab is the man....and as a direct comparison still Fab... more complete player

shamrock55

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Ah here, insult people all ya want, but can we hold back on normalizing right wing catchphrases?


In general, is it just me or has there been a little bit of a tonal shift that direction in here over the last wee while? A little more general anger, a little less general empathy and thought.

Empathy is the one thing that's never made an appearance in this thread unfortunately

shamrock55

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Who’s the better central defender?

Correct me if I'm wrong but bar the one game fab played there against Munich neither are central defenders, why ask that question were they not being judged as midfielders, BTW who's a better keeper, salah or mane

Potential Underachiever

The White Wolf wrote: »

If we still had Can instead of Keita I couldn't say I'd be disappointed. Can played his part for us, bossed games at times and we knew what we had in him. People giving him stick when he left the club as amicably as anyone can in this day and age is bizarre.

Not gonna lie I totally forgot about Keita.

To say he's been underwhelming thus far would definitely be under selling it.

Unlucky with injuries etc etc but just practically zero contribution, great thing is he has not been missed.

Agent Coulson

Have feeling when Bobby scores his next goal is celebration will be linked to Mane losing it.

Then watch Mane copy him.

~Rebel~

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Not gonna lie I totally forgot about Keita.

To say he's been underwhelming thus far would definitely be under selling it.

Unlucky with injuries etc etc but just practically zero contribution, great thing is he has not been missed.

Has looked very good at times in fairness, very good at breaking through a line, drawing players, and freeing up the attackers. Just not been on the pitch enough yet. Hopefully he can find some consistent fitness before long.

DrumSteve

For the rest of my life, I will never get tired of this match.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2qfxKhSTsY

Owl.

https://twitter.com/mikegalsworthy/status/1169305263314276353?s=19

What a fella.

TitianGerm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxXgGP3jaDY

Robbos meal deal choice :pac:

8-10

RollieFingers wrote: »

Fabinho is better than Kante all day long.

daheff wrote: »

Fabulous all day long for me. Don't get me wrong, Kante is an excellent player. but for the way we play, Fab is the man....and as a direct comparison still Fab... more complete player

I can only assume you are all on a wind up. Kante is the best around. He was pretty much unplayable in Istanbul last month.

Not many players elsewhere in the league walk into Liverpool's team right now but he's one of the first I'd pick. Superb player.

This is it

Kante wasn't great last season, for his standards at least, but that's blamed on Conte moving him forward to allow Jorginho play that DM role. 16/17, 17/18 he was fantastic.

To be honest, I'm not sure which I'd have in a squad over all, but purely to play the DM role I think it'd be Kante.

Harry Palmr

DrumSteve wrote: »

For the rest of my life, I will never get tired of this match.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2qfxKhSTsY

Tubbs at 4.37!

martyos121

TitianGerm wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxXgGP3jaDY

Robbos meal deal choice :pac:

Those two genuinely need to do a podcast together. Just talking about mundane, everyday things. I thought the biscuit dipping video was good, but that Q&A was spectacularly normal.

~Rebel~

shamrock55 wrote: »

Empathy is the one thing that's never made an appearance in this thread unfortunately

I wouldn't agree, but I understand that you feel that way.

BorneTobyWilde

Owl. wrote: »

https://twitter.com/mikegalsworthy/status/1169305263314276353?s=19

What a fella.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtDvmV4zr-Q

shamrock55

~Rebel~ wrote: »

I wouldn't agree, but I understand that you feel that way.

See what you did there ☺

garra

gimli2112 wrote: »

The WC club championships have really expanded. In my day you only had to fly 1/2 way around the world, lose 0-1 to some team from Brazil and then fly back.
Surely at some point someone will realise this thing is just nonsense. Who's interested in it? Does this count as one of our trophies?

The European Cup was viewed similarly in it's early days. Just as well the Liverpool teams of the 70s took it seriously or we wouldn't have six baby.

noodler

garra wrote: »

The European Cup was viewed similarly in it's early days. Just as well the Liverpool teams of the 70s took it seriously or we wouldn't have six baby.

Eh this has been going for at least 20 years.

garra

noodler wrote: »

Eh this has been going for at least 20 years.

Eh club competitions between teams from European countries trace their origins back as far as 1897

B_ecke_r

is that the theory behind Madrid winning it about 59 times in the 50s and 60s?

or were they just a very good team?

garra

B_ecke_r wrote: »

is that the theory behind winning it about 59 times in the 50s and 60s?

or were they just a very good team?

Not here to discuss Real Madrid

steve_r

https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/seven-players-who-did-nothing-at-liverpool-but-shone-after-leaving/#new_tab

Good article here on players who had better careers after liverpool than at Liverpool.

I was delighted for Aspas - always got the feeling that he did his very best to succeed but it just didn't work out for him. He was very emotional after his goal in the FA Cup

gimli2112

B_ecke_r wrote: »

is that the theory behind Madrid winning it about 59 times in the 50s and 60s?

or were they just a very good team?

bit of both, they had no-one to really beat but they were incredibly good. Di Stefano and Puskas alone would have got into any team ever, except maybe our current forward line

B_ecke_r

steve_r wrote: »

I was delighted for Aspas

Seen a crazy stat that was I think only Suarez, Messi, Griezmann have scored more in La Liga in last 3 years

The Good Ole Boys

I really liked him. Iago Aspas.

rossie1977

Suso looked a prospect at Liverpool, I remember questioning his non involvement at the time https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=92328671&postcount=4536

Aspas didn't show anything at Liverpool outside that initial preseason run. He was like a cat caught in headlights at Anfield.

BorneTobyWilde

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/363656-seven-liverpool-players-on-fifa-fifpro-world11-shortlist

Doubt Firmino will made the 11.

https://www.fifa.com/the-best-fifa-football-awards/news/55-names-revealed-for-fifa-fifpro-men-s-world11-2019

Blanco100

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/363656-seven-liverpool-players-on-fifa-fifpro-world11-shortlist

Doubt Firmino will made the 11.

https://www.fifa.com/the-best-fifa-football-awards/news/55-names-revealed-for-fifa-fifpro-men-s-world11-2019

Jaysus not 1 of our midfielders make the cut