The Ashes 2019

Mysterypunter

Hard to assess that day, 103-1 was a good start, but around 300 would only be a par score. Could be a few runs short

decies

Up to smith again now can’t imagine the rest of the Aussie batsmen chasing over 300 plus .

Strumms

Mysterypunter wrote: »

Hard to assess that day, 103-1 was a good start, but around 300 would only be a par score. Could be a few runs short

I think the level of success of today will be put into context by the morning session.

If England can stay out there for an hour or over, manage the strike and get 320/330 plus which will take a bit of doing against fresh, rested bowlers with very much a tail ender all be it a decent enough one with a shot or two and an organized defense at the crease it can be a successful innings and just about advantage England.

If they get skittled for 285 I think the Aussies are relaxed and relatively content.

The first 20 overs of the Aussie first innings will go a long way as regards deciding the match. If they get around 70 or 80 for the loss of just one wicket they’d be confident enough of a draw anyway...

Anjobe

Anjobe wrote: »

He has to fail some time, doesn't he? Hopefully the ball will swing for Woakes and Curran too and we'll at least get a competitive match.

he'd have to fail twice though, which seems highly unlikely at the moment.

Conchir

Anjobe wrote: »

He has to fail some time, doesn't he? Hopefully the ball will swing for Woakes and Curran too and we'll at least get a competitive match.

Maybe we'll have to start counting his 82 and 90 as failures :pac:

BarryD2

Anjobe wrote: »

He has to fail some time, doesn't he? Hopefully the ball will swing for Woakes and Curran too and we'll at least get a competitive match.

Warner is due a score as well - dangerous when he gets the eye back in, as he will sooner or later.

Mysterypunter

BarryD2 wrote: »

Warner is due a score as well - dangerous when he gets the eye back in, as he will sooner or later.

I think Warner will get a few, probably quickly. Was amazed today when they put up the stats during the sky coverage, he is 79/8 average 9.87 which I knew, but high score 61, means in the other 7 innings he 18/7, average 2.6 I knew he was out of form, but couldn't you score more than 18 in 7 goes by accident?

Stevieluvsye

Strange day yesterday. What on earth Paine was thinking putting England in to bat was beyond me. If they batted first and scored 450+ they wouldn't have lost the game.

Now they'll be batting last on a dry wicket although i don't rate leach as a bowler.

I think England will get to 310 odd and Australia will be there or thereabouts(Maybe 350). Today/Tomorrow look best time to bat and the forecast in Kennington for today/tomorrow to be warm and sunny.

Conchir

Happy for Mitchell Marsh, career best figures and his first 5 wicket haul.

Rock Lesnar

I think Australia could get any score they want in this innings, if Warner and Harris can get settled in, they can score big, and thats before Labuschagne and Smith get in

Rock Lesnar

And theres Warner gone already

Royale with Cheese

The ball didn't look like it was anywhere near the bat to me?

Anjobe

Good score for him for this series!

y0ssar1an22

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

The ball didn't look like it was anywhere near the bat to me?

should be used in conjunction with hotspot. Could be a cracked knuckle at the wrong time leading to the little spike, or any other sound

havent seen it. was it bad?

Royale with Cheese

In real time it looked like he'd comfortably missed it, although there was a sound. On replay it looked closer but something seemed off about it, the spike wasn't perfectly in sync with the ball passing the bat.

ArmaniJeanss

Something wrong with the process there.
Took ages (90 seconds?) to get Ultra Edge working, and then they only gave it one or two quick glances before deciding.
Visually there looked to be clear daylight between bat and ball.

Rock Lesnar

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

In real time it looked like he'd comfortably missed it, although there was a sound. On replay it looked closer but something seemed off about it, the spike wasn't perfectly in sync with the ball passing the bat.

Yeah the replay looks like the spike occured just before the ball got to the bat, but that could be just down to the picture frames

kmart6

Very hard done by there.

kmart6

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

should be used in conjunction with hotspot

According to the live commentary on ESPN Hot Spot being used is up to the broadcasters paying for it.

Conchir

Smith and Labuschagne in now. It feels like the real battle can now get underway

Harris gone cheaply again. I'd have had Bancroft in ahead of him. If only to break up the lefty pairing for England to bowl at.

y0ssar1an22

aus openers are a joke. SS cant do it again surely!

Inquitus

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

aus openers are a joke. SS cant do it again surely!

Another ton plus from Smith, guaranteed, sadly.

Adamcp898

Labuschagne was out edging Broad behind but nobody appealed.........

They finally got around to showing the replay on TV after a few overs. At the time I was baffled why neither the players nor the commentators seemed to notice the noise. Thought I was losing it.

jobeenfitz

Adamcp898 wrote: »

Labuschagne was out edging Broad behind but nobody appealed.........

They finally got around to showing the replay on TV after a few overs. At the time I was baffled why neither the players nor the commentators seemed to notice the noise. Thought I was losing it.

Commentators didn't notice until got tweets in from the public who noticed on TV.

BarryD2

Rock Lesnar wrote: »

Yeah the replay looks like the spike occured just before the ball got to the bat, but that could be just down to the picture frames

The technology has been dubious a couple of times in last week, great when it works but in instances where there's doubt you'd wonder. Wasn't Warner given not out by on field umpire?

jobeenfitz

Is Curran making Smith look a little bit Human?

y0ssar1an22

jobeenfitz wrote: »

Is Curran making Smith look a little bit Human?

judging by the cricinfo commentary he seems to be causing him some problems.

in relation to the Marnus wicket, what was Bairstow doing: They referenced breach of the following:

41.5 Deliberate distraction, deception or obstruction of batsman

41.5.1 In addition to 41.4, it is unfair for any fielder wilfully to attempt, by word or action, to distract, deceive or obstruct either batsman after the striker has received the ball.

41.5.2 It is for either one of the umpires to decide whether any distraction, deception or obstruction is wilful or not.

41.5.3 If either umpire considers that a fielder has caused or attempted to cause such a distraction, deception or obstruction, he/she shall immediately call and signal Dead ball and inform the other umpire of the reason for the call.

41.5.4 Neither batsman shall be dismissed from that delivery.

41.5.5 If an obstruction involves physical contact, the umpires together shall decide whether or not an offence under Law 42 (Players’ conduct) has been committed.

41.5.5.1 If an offence under Law 42 (Players’ conduct) has been committed, they shall apply the relevant procedures in Law 42 and shall also apply each of 41.5.7 to 41.5.9.

41.5.5.2 If they consider that there has been no offence under Law 42 (Players’ conduct), they shall apply each of 41.5.6 to 41.5.10.

41.5.6 The bowler’s end umpire shall

- award 5 Penalty runs to the batting side.

- inform the captain of the fielding side of the reason for this action and as soon as practicable inform the captain of the batting side.

41.5.7 The ball shall not count as one of the over.

41.5.8 Any runs completed by the batsmen before the offence shall be scored, together with any runs for penalties awarded to either side. Additionally, the run in progress shall be scored whether or not the batsmen had already crossed at the instant of the offence.

41.5.9 The batsmen at the wicket shall decide which of them is to face the next delivery.

41.5.10 The umpires together shall report the occurrence as soon as possible after the match to the Executive of the offending side and to any Governing Body responsible for the match, who shall take such action as is considered appropriate against the captain, any other individuals concerned and, if appropriate, the team.

y0ssar1an22

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

judging by the cricinfo commentary he seems to be causing him some problems.

in relation to the Marnus wicket, what was Bairstow doing: They referenced breach of the following:

41.5 Deliberate distraction, deception or obstruction of batsman

41.5.1 In addition to 41.4, it is unfair for any fielder wilfully to attempt, by word or action, to distract, deceive or obstruct either batsman after the striker has received the ball.

41.5.2 It is for either one of the umpires to decide whether any distraction, deception or obstruction is wilful or not.

41.5.3 If either umpire considers that a fielder has caused or attempted to cause such a distraction, deception or obstruction, he/she shall immediately call and signal Dead ball and inform the other umpire of the reason for the call.

41.5.4 Neither batsman shall be dismissed from that delivery.

41.5.5 If an obstruction involves physical contact, the umpires together shall decide whether or not an offence under Law 42 (Players’ conduct) has been committed.

41.5.5.1 If an offence under Law 42 (Players’ conduct) has been committed, they shall apply the relevant procedures in Law 42 and shall also apply each of 41.5.7 to 41.5.9.

41.5.5.2 If they consider that there has been no offence under Law 42 (Players’ conduct), they shall apply each of 41.5.6 to 41.5.10.

41.5.6 The bowler’s end umpire shall

- award 5 Penalty runs to the batting side.

- inform the captain of the fielding side of the reason for this action and as soon as practicable inform the captain of the batting side.

41.5.7 The ball shall not count as one of the over.

41.5.8 Any runs completed by the batsmen before the offence shall be scored, together with any runs for penalties awarded to either side. Additionally, the run in progress shall be scored whether or not the batsmen had already crossed at the instant of the offence.

41.5.9 The batsmen at the wicket shall decide which of them is to face the next delivery.

41.5.10 The umpires together shall report the occurrence as soon as possible after the match to the Executive of the offending side and to any Governing Body responsible for the match, who shall take such action as is considered appropriate against the captain, any other individuals concerned and, if appropriate, the team.

I don't know what you are talking about re the Labuschagne wicket. Bairstow had no involvement in it. Was a straightforward lbw.

BarryD2

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

in relation to the Marnus wicket, what was Bairstow doing: They referenced breach of the following:

Don't think that had anything to do with Labuschange being lbw? Getting hit on the arm a few balls before probably didn't help. If that Archer fella stayed in long enough, I'd say they'll be trying to hit him

Pressure back on Smith though, he has to perform again and hope the others can hold up their ends.

y0ssar1an22

havent been watching. from the cricinfo commentary:

41.5.1 In addition to 41.4, it is unfair for any fielder wilfully to attempt, by word or action, to distract, deceive or obstruct either batsman after the striker has received the ball. 41.5.2 It is for either one of the umpires to decide whether any distraction, deception or obstruction is wilful or not.Oct 2, 2017 That was definitely against the law!" Should have been five runs under the strict interpretation

John: "Law 41.5. Bairstow breached." John thinks there's no grey area.

Jesse: "Why wasn't Bairstow called for fake fielding then? Umpires forgotten the (still newish) rule? " Gaurav raised it too. Some grey area in the rule on that one. Can't answer that.

my bad, it was in relation to:

Archer to Wade, 3 runs, fuller on off, he drives with a punch, straight of mid on, they push for three, they get it easily but Bairstow faked the ball was being thrown to his end! Smith dives full length for no reason! Everyone is laughing

kmart6

Here we go again, Smith just needs people to hang in there with him

MrKingsley

I know this is slightly off topic but just looking at the county championship results. 3 of the 4 games in this round have been won inside of 3 days by 250 runs or more.

If potential batsmen can’t bat out 2-3 sessions at that level then what hope would they have being called up in the near future for England.

I realise that there are players who do perform but not consistently enough for the selectors to warrant taking a complete punt I don’t think

Mysterypunter

James Vince got a fast 91, 59 balls, bring him back

Mysterypunter

This series, 84 runs for Warner, 85 fours for Smith, just stole that off cricinfo.

SharpshooterTom

England favourites now with that wicket, just Paine and the tail and they should get a lead.

The plan isn't to get Smith out but the rest of them out.

MrKingsley

Cummins and Siddle can stick around. If they can bat until after lunch tomorrow they should have a nice lead.

Having said that if Archer keeps going like he has England could be back in again this evening.

Would be nuts if this series finished in a draw

SharpshooterTom

Oh dear Smith dropped...

Rock Lesnar

I cant believe some of the shots the australia batsman are playing today, apart from Harris and Labushagne, the wickets could have been avoidable, lucky to only have 5 out

Inquitus

https://twitter.com/samuelfez/status/1172534895710785536

That's an insane statistic more so given he missed a test!

SharpshooterTom

Looking more and more like 2-2 now.

England should be looking at a 50+ lead.

Australia in big trouble now. Paine had to stick with Smith for a while. Looking like a big mistake for Paine to put England in to bat.

kmart6

How frustrating it must be for Smith standing at the other end watching some of these shots.

SharpshooterTom

This match is nearly over now.

Sick of the pundits in this series. Kept yapping on about this being a 500 pitch, they know nothing.

kmart6

Fcuking hell

jobeenfitz

Time for Smith to get some runs

ThomasFlynn

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

This match is nearly over now.

Sick of the pundits in this series. Kept yapping on about this being a 500 pitch, they know nothing.

It might have been a 500 pitch if there were some batsmen able to bat. I can't remember watching a test series where both batting line-ups performed so poorly.

SharpshooterTom

Ward J. Littell wrote: »

It might have been a 500 pitch if there were some batsmen able to bat. I can't remember watching a test series where both batting line-ups performed so poorly.

Its more 350 IMO, there's some swing as Curran and Marsh have shown.

Vaughan slating England last night saying they were 150 runs too short, they'll lose the test etc.

Rjd2

Curran a fine player indeed. He was quality last Summer v India and he should feel perplexed that he was not picked until this test,,especially when looking at Overton last match.

Australia have been poor today, still concerns over Wade, Paine and Harris.

Warner ? Probably will score a million runs in the Aussie Summer despite the last few weeks.

SharpshooterTom

Khawaja shoudn't have been dropped.

He's not had a good series, but at least he gets to 40 sometimes which is an amazing score by the standards of the non-smith batters.