IONITY - charging / fees / tips

redcup342

liamog wrote: »

Why would any e-tron owner pay 79c/kWh when they could pay 31c/kWh instead?

Thinking more about the rentals, I regularly rent the E-Tron and others + use Maingau

zg3409

Irish EV owners meeting featuring Ionity tomorrow Saturday 25th April at noon.

If you have not got zoom app on your phone I recommend downloading half a day in advance as it can take a few hours to get account confirmation


https://zoom.us/j/96632974658?pwd=S1lPREdnRWc2YmZZZmlJUHlYVmY4QT09

Meeting ID 96632974658

Password 174871

For best audio disable sharing video

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Black_Knight

zg3409 wrote: »

Irish EV owners meeting featuring Ionity tomorrow Saturday 25th April at noon.

If you have not got zoom app on your phone I recommend downloading half a day in advance as it can take a few hours to get account confirmation


https://zoom.us/j/96632974658?pwd=S1lPREdnRWc2YmZZZmlJUHlYVmY4QT09

Meeting ID 96632974658

Password 174871

For best audio disable sharing video

From Facebook
https://m.facebook.com/groups/1602716789969603?view=permalink&id=2563237380584201&refid=8&_ft_=qid.6819342967625925171%3Amf_story_key.4343065221837351697%3Agroup_id.2754342147920590%3Atop_level_post_id.3169011843120283%3Acontent_owner_id_new.636583574%3Aoriginal_content_id.2563237380584201%3Aoriginal_content_owner_id.100001951963646%3Asrc.22%3Aphoto_id.3637912922950404%3Astory_location.5%3Aattached_story_attachment_style.photo%3Aview_time.1587752012%3Afilter.h_nor&__tn__=%2As%2AsH-R

Anyone listen in?

ELM327

No, I was on the last one set up by the same organizer but missed this one. Interesting, especially with everyone stuck at home, good to shoot the breeze with others interested in EVs too

Black_Knight

ELM327 wrote: »

No, I was on the last one set up by the same organizer but missed this one. Interesting, especially with everyone stuck at home, good to shoot the breeze with others interested in EVs too

I possibly would of, but I was doing a bit of work out the back, when my wife went for a walk with our daughter... And locked the house up... With my phone inside.

fricatus

Any further word on the chargers at Kill?

ELM327

liamog wrote: »

Why would any e-tron owner pay 79c/kWh when they could pay 31c/kWh instead?

Because they'd have to pay 18 quid a month for the discount


I was looking at a second hand ex demo etron but it doesnt make sense.
The fast charging is too expensive. 150kW consistent is great, but where you are doing >300wh/km and charging 80c per kWh it's useless

liamog

ELM327 wrote: »

Because they'd have to pay 18 quid a month for the discount


I was looking at a second hand ex demo etron but it doesnt make sense.
The fast charging is too expensive. 150kW consistent is great, but where you are doing >300wh/km and charging 80c per kWh it's useless

50 kWh at 79c = €39.50
50 kWh at 31c + €17.95 subscription = €33.45

Any e-Tron user who uses an Ionity charger at least 10 times a year will break even on the subscription. If I was using one for regular long journeys I'd probably sign up and use the Ionity charger over the eCars network.
ABRP show's I'd need two 20 min charges to do a return journey Dublin to Cork in an e-Tron 55. I don't think people who pay €100,000 for a car are going to quibble over an extra €215/year to access the much better network.

There are plenty of reason's to not buy an e-Tron, but paying 1% of the purchase price for access to a high speed charging network is very low down on the list!

zg3409

Black_Knight wrote: »

Anyone listen in?

Yes. The UK and Irl manager joined from Germany. Seemed up to date on all Irish chargers.

Said kill is waiting on esb supply which is delayed due to covit.

Dublin north is going from 2 to 4 chargers, lack of stock was issue

Mention of northern Ireland, they said they attempted to install at a few sites but ESB NI said they could not supply the power needed. They said they are attempting another NI site and that a request is in with ESB. They won't announce anything until installation starts, presuming the site can get the power and planning permission. They said it is a new petrol station but would not say where.

Also apologised for pricing or made excuses at least. Said people should not use ionity for daily use. Said Hyundai is not fully joined as a partner, but when they are, Hyundai/Kia may offer preferred pricing. I think it is an anti -competition assessment delaying signoff.

There is plans for new Ionity app by end of summer no plans for Ionity RFID card.

slave1

LOL, laughing it up in NI, no laws passed to allow charging for charging so all still free up there

MJohnston

Fingers cross that NI one is somewhere along the Dublin route

ELM327

MJohnston wrote: »

Fingers cross that NI one is somewhere along the Dublin route

Castlebellingham services would be a good spot
Already Tesla and Ecars there

Mickeroo

zg3409 wrote: »

Yes. The UK and Irl manager joined from Germany. Seemed up to date on all Irish chargers.

Said kill is waiting on esb supply which is delayed due to covit.

Dublin north is going from 2 to 4 chargers, lack of stock was issue

Mention of northern Ireland, they said they attempted to install at a few sites but ESB NI said they could not supply the power needed. They said they are attempting another NI site and that a request is in with ESB. They won't announce anything until installation starts, presuming the site can get the power and planning permission. They said it is a new petrol station but would not say where.

Also apologised for pricing or made excuses at least. Said people should not use ionity for daily use. Said Hyundai is not fully joined as a partner, but when they are, Hyundai/Kia may offer preferred pricing. I think it is an anti -competition assessment delaying signoff.

There is plans for new Ionity app by end of summer no plans for Ionity RFID card.

No mention of plans for more sites in the Republic?

Silent Running

zg3409 wrote: »

Yes. The UK and Irl manager joined from Germany. Seemed up to date on all Irish chargers.

Said kill is waiting on esb supply which is delayed due to covit.

Dublin north is going from 2 to 4 chargers, lack of stock was issue

Mention of northern Ireland, they said they attempted to install at a few sites but ESB NI said they could not supply the power needed. They said they are attempting another NI site and that a request is in with ESB. They won't announce anything until installation starts, presuming the site can get the power and planning permission. They said it is a new petrol station but would not say where.

Also apologised for pricing or made excuses at least. Said people should not use ionity for daily use. Said Hyundai is not fully joined as a partner, but when they are, Hyundai/Kia may offer preferred pricing. I think it is an anti -competition assessment delaying signoff.

There is plans for new Ionity app by end of summer no plans for Ionity RFID card.

Any comment about charging spots being blocked by ICE cars and vans?

MJohnston

ELM327 wrote: »

Castlebellingham services would be a good spot
Already Tesla and Ecars there

That's not Northern Ireland though. Too close to CityNorth too, I think.

Best candidate imo would be the Applegreen between Lisburn and Belfast on the M1. There's also a few slightly offline Circle K stations on the A1, but I don't know what size they are.

The other alternative option would probably be something on the Belfast to Derry route, maybe the Texaco at the foot of the Glenshane Pass.

ELM327

MJohnston wrote: »

That's not Northern Ireland though. Too close to CityNorth too, I think.

Best candidate imo would be the Applegreen between Lisburn and Belfast on the M1. There's also a few slightly offline Circle K stations on the A1, but I don't know what size they are.

The other alternative option would probably be something on the Belfast to Derry route, maybe the Texaco at the foot of the Glenshane Pass.

It's more northern than anything else (southern, western etc)


If you want something in "the 6" then there aren't really any good service stations of any size past newry

zg3409

Silent Running wrote: »

Any comment about charging spots being blocked by ICE cars and vans?

Question was not asked. There were questions in the chat, but not all were asked or answered. To be fair they did not want to beat up Ionity rep on downsides, instead get news.

No mention of plans for more sites in the Republic?

No. There was a general request for north west.

To be fair we have same number of Ionity sites as UK (UK has a lot of non operational)

I would not expect any more sites here, as they target out of city motorway sites, and most busy routes will have them. The aim of the network is to allow 300km+ range cars go between cities.

Stop button easily pressed by other drivers was mentioned, and was agreed as known issue.

ELM327

Between Gorey, Cashel, Athlone, 2*m7 kill, and citynorth they've pretty much everywhere bar the NW black hole covered.
If they put one to the west of the North of Ireland, then they will have almost 100% island coverage

Black_Knight

ELM327 wrote: »

Between Gorey, Cashel, Athlone, 2*m7 kill, and citynorth they've pretty much everywhere bar the NW black hole covered.
If they put one to the west of the North of Ireland, then they will have almost 100% island coverage

Wonder why the North West has been ignored in general. Ecars have given it very little love too.

ewj1978

Population density?

As for the north there's the 2 new service stations between Belfast and Lisburn that only opened last year.

Silent Running

Black_Knight wrote: »

Wonder why the North West has been ignored in general. Ecars have given it very little love too.

DrPhilG lives there.

unkel

Black_Knight wrote: »

Wonder why the North West has been ignored in general. Ecars have given it very little love too.

The lowest population density in Ireland? The lowest income per capita area in Ireland?

digiman

The NW badly needs something at one of the 2 petrol stations in Cavan. I found out there is a 50kW charger outside Enniskillen which I will use on my next trip up whenever we are allowed again. There is one 50kW charger outside Donegal town which I’ve used but always worried someone is going to be there as there is only the one charger.

Thankfully I can make it up without having to charge but when I arrive I only have about 50km left which is not ideal if you have to make some trips when you arrive there.

slave1

digiman wrote: »

The NW badly needs something at one of the 2 petrol stations in Cavan. I found out there is a 50kW charger outside Enniskillen which I will use on my next trip up whenever we are allowed again....

Thankfully I can make it up without having to charge but when I arrive I only have about 50km left which is not ideal if you have to make some trips when you arrive there.

Do not depend on that charger, twice I've gone to use it, both times out of order and both times listed on the ESB app as working.
Granted that was before their new app....

ELM327

I found the Enniskillen FCP very unreliable in the past too

MJohnston

ELM327 wrote: »

It's more northern than anything else (southern, western etc)


If you want something in "the 6" then there aren't really any good service stations of any size past newry

It may be more northern than anything else, but the poster specifically said the guy said "Northern Ireland", not the north.

On the Dublin-Belfast route, I'd say there are a few places that could accommodate Ionity:
* The Boulevard in Banbridge (formerly The Outlet)
* On-line Circle K just north of Banbridge (a smallish site right now, but it has an eCars FCP right now, and there's plenty of space for expansion)
* Sprucefield
* The aforementioned on-line Applegreen service stations on the M1 between Lisburn and Blacks Road.

ELM327

Ionity tend to favor online circle k positions, so I'd probably suggest the banbridge one based on that

fricatus

ELM327 wrote: »

Between Gorey, Cashel, Athlone, 2*m7 kill, and citynorth they've pretty much everywhere bar the NW black hole covered.
If they put one to the west of the North of Ireland, then they will have almost 100% island coverage

Nothing at all on the south coast corridor (N25/N22) or west coast corridor (N20/M18/M17)

ELM327

Not sure they'd have the worthwhile usage?

Black_Knight

Seems Maingau now support credit card payments. Just got an email from them.
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The app crashes when I got to the payments screen