Widen entrance to garden

Diemos

I've a house in Dublin in an older estate. The drive entrance is very narrow.
I'd like to move the peer back about 1.5 ft..
The estate is a cul de sac and most drives have already been widened.
Do I need planning permission?
The footpath would not need to be altered as the drop is already much larger than the entrance.

Thank you

Gumbo

Diemos wrote: »

I've a house in Dublin in an older estate. The drive entrance is very narrow.
I'd like to move the peer back about 1.5 ft..
The estate is a cul de sac and most drives have already been widened.
Do I need planning permission?
The footpath would not need to be altered as the drop is already much larger than the entrance.

Thank you

Planning permission required to alter, widen a vehicular entrance.

Diemos

Ok, thank you.

JonathonS

kceire wrote: »

Planning permission required to alter, widen a vehicular entrance.

This gets the prize as the most ignored of all planning regulations, and one which is never enforced. My sister lives on a suburban road in Dublin. Virtually every house has widened their gateways - one is now just over 5 paces wide. When she was doing hers I told her to check if she needed planning. She spoke to neighbours, none of them had planning permission, so she just went ahead and did it.

Gumbo

JonathonS wrote: »

This gets the prize as the most ignored of all planning regulations, and one which is never enforced. My sister lives on a suburban road in Dublin. Virtually every house has widened their gateways - one is now just over 5 paces wide. When she was doing hers I told her to check if she needed planning. She spoke to neighbours, none of them had planning permission, so she just went ahead and did it.

Will only become a problem when she goes to sell.
The rules are not enforced as in, the council do not actively look for planning breaches. They act on complaints alone. All it takes is one complaint.

BryanF

JonathonS wrote: »

This gets the prize as the most ignored of all planning regulations, and one which is never enforced. My sister lives on a suburban road in Dublin. Virtually every house has widened their gateways - one is now just over 5 paces wide. When she was doing hers I told her to check if she needed planning. She spoke to neighbours, none of them had planning permission, so she just went ahead and did it.

We obey the law in this forum. You’re around long enough to know that

Btw it can/has been/and is enforced

JonathonS

BryanF wrote: »

We obey the law in this forum. You’re around long enough to know that

Absolutely. I never suggested otherwise. I am the most law-abiding person on here.

Doop

Depending on the era of the estate it may not have been built with garden walls to the front at all. You'll know by looking at it if its a mix of varying types.

Lots of people build walls in these estates so realistically you are only removing a section of wall which was never covered by pp in the first place.

Eg some people plant hedging instead of walls, if I want to cut down 500mm/1m of my hedge I can ... (without pp).

Gumbo

Doop wrote: »

Depending on the era of the estate it may not have been built with garden walls to the front at all. You'll know by looking at it if its a mix of varying types.

Lots of people build walls in these estates so realistically you are only removing a section of wall which was never covered by pp in the first place.

Eg some people plant hedging instead of walls, if I want to cut down 500mm/1m of my hedge I can ... (without pp).

Irrelevant. They would still need planning to alter or create the vehicular entrance.

badboyblast

I have widened my entrance to fit two cars, can I now apply for retention of the work done or what way does it work ?

Gumbo

badboyblast wrote: »

I have widened my entrance to fit two cars, can I now apply for retention of the work done or what way does it work ?

Yes you can apply for retention to keep the alterations and regularise the planning status of the site.

Where are you based?
How wide is the entrance now?

If in Dublin City they will condition it to be reduced to 3.6m within 6 months. My partner has Got a few grants back with that condition.

listermint

kceire wrote: »

Will only become a problem when she goes to sell.
The rules are not enforced as in, the council do not actively look for planning breaches. They act on complaints alone. All it takes is one complaint.

Afaik enforcement would mean reinstating the pillar.

That is moving it back the small bit and putting blocks back in.


Cost, minimal ?

Gumbo

listermint wrote: »

Afaik enforcement would mean reinstating the pillar.

That is moving it back the small bit and putting blocks back in.


Cost, minimal ?

Yes replacing pillar back to original.
Build up wall and foundation.
Possible disruption to the garden finish such as paving or concrete or other.
Cost depending on existing setup.

badboyblast

kceire wrote: »

Yes you can apply for retention to keep the alterations and regularise the planning status of the site.

Where are you based?
How wide is the entrance now?

If in Dublin City they will condition it to be reduced to 3.6m within 6 months. My partner has Got a few grants back with that condition.

I am based in Limerick County, thank you for getting back to me., total opening is about 18 to 20 feet, I also live on
a corner

Czhornet

If the surfaced estate road is less than 4 metres wide that you can get a Section 5 Exempted Development Approval, Article 9 (1)(a)(ii) of the Planning Regs

Gumbo

Czhornet wrote: »

If the surfaced estate road is less than 4 metres wide that you can get a Section 5 Exempted Development Approval, Article 9 (1)(a)(ii) of the Planning Regs

There is no such thing as section 5 exempted development approval.
A section 5 is an application you make to the council asking if these works as described require planning. If they say yes then you’ll still need a cert of exemption from a private sector professional, especially if you go to sell.

In the OP’s case, and in particular, many urban areas. There wouldn’t be many, if any at all public roads less than 4m in width.