Trump announces a withdrawal from Afghanistan

skooterblue2

Trump is announced he is pulling out of Afghanistan. This is the first positive strategy on Afghanistan in 3 administrations.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7316207/Donald-Trump-confirms-planning-massive-Afghanistan-pullout-amid-peace-talks-Taliban.html?ico=pushly-notifcation-small

Roger Hassenforder

Those Taliban lads are quite reasonable.
This is a good news story...

4068ac1elhodqr

Reckon the Chinese will be the next to have a go after decades of the two other superpowers.
This will help his ratings anyway, has just gone below evens odds, to win again in 2020.

Sharp MZ700

Was she a looker?

NIMAN

Pulling out of Afghanistan...... So he can go to war with Iran?

skooterblue2

Keegan Shaggy Supper wrote: »

Reckon the Chinese will be the next to have a go after decades of the two other superpowers.

I fully support the Chinese decision to go into Afghanistan. G'wan lads, 'ave a butchers. See where Alexander, Britain, Russia and the United States failed in that order.

skooterblue2

Sharp MZ700 wrote: »

Was she a looker?

She looked good from Afar but far from good looking.
Virgin territory but impossible to work with, Chinese will be in there for sloppy seconds thinking that the Americans softened the Afghans up. The reality is, its easy to go into Afghanistan but hard to get out of!!

Cheerful Spring2

NIMAN wrote: »

Pulling out of Afghanistan...... So he can go to war with Iran?

He can't win. The Taliban will likely take over the country when they are gone- the Pakistan military would have to stop them and thats unlikely?

Gatling

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

the Pakistan military would have to stop them and thats unlikely?

There funded and trained by Pakistani intelligence and military services amongst others .

Gatling

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I fully support the Chinese decision to go into Afghanistan. G'wan lads, 'ave a butchers. See where Alexander, Britain, Russia and the United States failed in that order.

America never wanted to conquer Afghanistan ,it's widely believed if they actually put larger forces and bases closer to the Pakistan border they might have had a better chance as well as letting the Pakistanis away with murder from day one ,
They literally took every chance to rape the Americans from behind .
And the yanks were forced to take it and say please and thank you

q85dw7osi4lebg

When I say I'm pulling out I don't always mean it. So ya never know.

skooterblue2

Rylan Polite Tree wrote: »

When I say I'm pulling out I don't always mean it. So ya never know.

What has he said that he hasnt done?
Fixed the economy
Talked down North Korea
Moved the embassy to Jerusalem
Infrastructure projects are in the tube.
Trade war with China and Canada
Wall with mexico and tightening up on immigration.
Out of Afghanistan.
Won in Syria.
Peace with Russia.

q85dw7osi4lebg

skooterblue2 wrote: »

What has he said that he hasnt done?
Fixed the economy
Talked down North Korea
Moved the embassy to Jerusalem
Infrastructure projects are in the tube.
Trade war with China and Canada
Wall with mexico and tightening up on immigration.
Out of Afghanistan.
Won in Syria.
Peace with Russia.

Twas a joke....

q85dw7osi4lebg

Fixed economy ? Fed just cut rates and states will be in a recession within 6 months.

skooterblue2

Rylan Polite Tree wrote: »

Fixed economy ? Fed just cut rates and states will be in a recession within 6 months.

Can I take that to the bank?

rossie1977

Great strategy, massively increase numbers in 2017 and then pull them out 2 years later making it look like you accomplished something https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-afghanistan-troop-surge-complete-raising-total-number-us-servicemen-714588

Tell me how

Rylan Polite Tree wrote: »

Twas a joke....

So was the response it got.

Limpy

Eveytime the yanks want to pull out Afghanistan grabs it by the ass and keeps it in. The taliban wouldn't control all that land without local support from the population, or external support with arms, money ect. If China or any country did go in surely making peace with the taliban would give then major leverage.

The problem with the yanks is they used the taliban are bad excuse to invade so therfore they couldn't make peace with them or it will seem like they failed.

skooterblue2

Limpy wrote: »

Eveytime the yanks want to pull out Afghanistan grabs it by the ass and keeps it in. The taliban wouldn't control all that land without local support from the population, or external support with arms, money ect. If China or any country did go in surely making peace with the taliban would give then major leverage.

The problem with the yanks is they used the taliban are bad excuse to invade so therfore they couldn't make peace with them or it will seem like they failed.

Nobody has ever gone into Afghanistan with peaceful intent. China will arrive with flowers like in Tibet but that will quickly change. Chinese have a much lower tolerance of Islam than America

skooterblue2

rossie1977 wrote: »

Great strategy, massively increase numbers in 2017 and then pull them out 2 years later making it look like you accomplished something https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-afghanistan-troop-surge-complete-raising-total-number-us-servicemen-714588

That was the same strategy with Iraq

jmreire

Limpy wrote: »

Eveytime the yanks want to pull out Afghanistan grabs it by the ass and keeps it in. The taliban wouldn't control all that land without local support from the population, or external support with arms, money ect. If China or any country did go in surely making peace with the taliban would give then major leverage.

The problem with the yanks is they used the taliban are bad excuse to invade so therfore they couldn't make peace with them or it will seem like they failed.

The Taliban are not supported by the majority of Afghanistani's. If Sept 11th had not happened, and the US had not invaded, most likely by now, they would be gone. While they were welcomed in the beginning because they stopped all the warring factions, and brought peace, but that soon changed when their method's of ruling became known.Even after the death of Shah Masood, the North never accepted the Taliban.They still don't. After the US invaded, you could find lots of burnt out Taliban vehicle's on the road to Kandahar, and most were caused by local's, fed up with the cruelty of the Talibs, and were taking their revenge.

Faugheen

skooterblue2 wrote: »

What has he said that he hasnt done?
Fixed the economy
Talked down North Korea
Moved the embassy to Jerusalem
Infrastructure projects are in the tube.
Trade war with China and Canada
Wall with mexico and tightening up on immigration.
Out of Afghanistan.
Won in Syria.
Peace with Russia.

The economy was 'fixed' before he took office, no he's just trebled the national debt to make the boom boomier.
North Korea are still firing missiles.
Moving the embassy to Jerusalem isn't a good thing.
There's no wall because he knows he can't get a wall.
He's pulling out of Afghanistan so he can threaten to go to war with Iran.
All of those dead civilians in Syria are a big 'win' alright.
Russia has him by the short and curlies.

Timberrrrrrrr

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Trump is announced he is pulling out of Afghanistan. This is the first positive strategy on Afghanistan in 3 administrations.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7316207/Donald-Trump-confirms-planning-massive-Afghanistan-pullout-amid-peace-talks-Taliban.html?ico=pushly-notifcation-small

Another "war" the yanks can add to the lost list.

skooterblue2

Faugheen wrote: »

The economy was 'fixed' before he took office, no he's just trebled the national debt to make the boom boomier.
North Korea are still firing missiles.
Moving the embassy to Jerusalem isn't a good thing.
There's no wall because he knows he can't get a wall.
He's pulling out of Afghanistan so he can threaten to go to war with Iran.
All of those dead civilians in Syria are a big 'win' alright.
Russia has him by the short and curlies.

As soon as he entered office the stock market rose.
The economy was far from fixed it was propping up dead firms under Obama that should have been left fail.
Well wasnt there an explosion that took out about 200 of their nuclear scientists?
He did what he said he was going to and moved the embassy what presidents since Clinton were promising. Clinton was also promising a wall.
Invading Afghanistan was never a good idea except for the Calton group and Haliburton, any exit from Afghanistan is a good idea. It is just one of those parts of the world that is a money pit and completely ungovernable.
Once the USA and Russia co-ordinated strikes and took out supply lines Raqqua and Alleppo fell.
How have Russia got him by the short and curlies. If anything Russia has Europe by the short and curlies since the late 70's with the gas pipeline?

MrFresh

skooterblue2 wrote: »

What has he said that he hasnt done?
Fixed the economy
Talked down North Korea
Moved the embassy to Jerusalem
Infrastructure projects are in the tube.
Trade war with China and Canada
Wall with mexico and tightening up on immigration.
Out of Afghanistan.
Won in Syria.
Peace with Russia.

Released his tax returns.

skooterblue2

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Another "war" the yanks can add to the lost list.

Korea? Stalemate
Vietnam? The NVA were within a week of giving up at the end so that was a stalemate.
Grenada? Won
Panama? Won
First Gulf war? Won
Somalia? no resolution will ever be found there
Former Yugoslavia ? they got the result they wanted
Iraq ? That was won after Petraeus took over and the American just withdrew.
Afghanistan? Nobody ever won there..... hence I am welcoming the Chinese in
Libya? There is another agenda afoot there...

skooterblue2

MrFresh wrote: »

Released his tax returns.

Been done. Talk about the Clintons and Denis O'Brien in Haiti? Never

the dark phantom

Whos gonna control the heroin then

MrFresh

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Been done. Talk about the Clintons and Denis O'Brien in Haiti? Never

Hey, look over there, it's something completely unrelated to what was just discussed!

skooterblue2

the dark phantom wrote: »

Whos gonna control the heroin then

When a guy arrives in your village in a nice shiny suit flanked by PMCs with a big old case of money you arent going to ask too many questions.

"We will be back in 6 months to collect the opium crop, Half now half on delivery". Its easier to say yes.

ToBeFrank123

I have a feeling this is just another bluff. He'll reduce the numbers until the next election and if he wins will send them all back to Afghanistan.

He threathened something similar with Syria but later changed his mind.