Officers apologise for leading black man on a rope.

pinkyeye

https://www.thejournal.ie/officers-leading-black-man-by-a-rope-in-texas-sparks-outrage-4755043-Aug2019/


This is one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen.

Is there any hope for the US?

paw patrol

oh the outrage. The only officers available were the horsey ones.
they took the practical option to bring him to the station that way which is an official tactic.
what were they supposed to do? let him ride the fuc*ing horse home?

but lets' not be reasonable...lets have some contrived anger instead cos we all like that

Bob24

paw patrol wrote: »

oh the outrage. The only officers available were the horsey ones.
they took the practical option to bring him to the station that way which is an official tactic.
what were they supposed to do? let him ride the fuc*ing horse home?

but lets' not be reasonable...lets have some contrived anger instead cos we all like that

Also the article clearly says that “this is a trained technique and best practice in some scenario”. So they didn’t just come up with the idea, and probably just followed the protocol from their training.

MarquisDeSad

Not a great look at all.

One eyed Jack

pinkyeye wrote: »

https://www.thejournal.ie/officers-leading-black-man-by-a-rope-in-texas-sparks-outrage-4755043-Aug2019/


This is one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen.

Is there any hope for the US?

A tad hyperbolic, no? :pac:

paw patrol wrote: »

oh the outrage. The only officers available were the horsey ones.
they took the practical option to bring him to the station that way which is an official tactic.
what were they supposed to do? let him ride the fuc*ing horse home?

but lets' not be reasonable...lets have some contrived anger instead cos we all like that

Call for a car to pick him up, instead of taking the stupid option.

Leading the man like that isn’t by any stretch a reasonable or practical course of action.

Jimmy McGill

All the fake outrage just because he's a certain colour. They were just doing their job and well done instead of letting him go.

James Brown

Jimmy McGill wrote: »

All the fake outrage just because he's a certain colour. They were just doing their job and well done instead of letting him go.

Why's it fake, because he's black? If he was white would the outrage be genuine?

The Enbalmer

Virtue signalling fail!

p1akuw47h5r3it

Jimmy McGill wrote: »

All the fake outrage just because he's a certain colour. They were just doing their job and well done instead of letting him go.

It is fake outrage, and no doubt had he been white no one would really care. But surely they should've known how that would look, given Americas history and how heated things are over there at the moment. Why not put on the horse in front of one of the officers, or call for a car.

A serious own goal it has to be said.

Spleerbun

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Why's it fake, because he's black? If he was white would the outrage be genuine?

There wouldn't be any

irishgrover

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Why's it fake, because he's black? If he was white would the outrage be genuine?

Have you any understanding of the concept of context, or do you believe that it does not exist?

James Brown

Spleerbun wrote: »

There wouldn't be any

That's not the question. The outrage is fake. Why? If he were white and there were outrage would it be legit? Why?

irishgrover wrote: »

Have you any understanding of the concept of context, or do you believe that it does not exist?

The 'context' is the idea that any annoyed by this are only pretending because he's black. I ask why?
The real context is a black man being led by rope. It has historical and modern connotations, hence the outrage.

ILoveYourVibes

Could they not have sent the mounted police to wait with him in handcuffs until a car was available to come?

Should have waited for that car.

irishgrover

Matt Barrett wrote: »

That's not the question. The outrage is fake. Why? If he were white and there were outrage would it be legit? Why?



The 'context' is the idea that any annoyed by this are only pretending because he's black. I ask why?
The real context is a black man being led by rope. It has historical and modern connotations, hence the outrage.

Apologies my question should have been directed at Jimmy and not you

Spleerbun

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Could they not have sent the mounted police to wait with him in handcuffs until a car was available to come?

Should have waited for that car.

Why should they have to waste unnecessary time and resources on transporting a criminal, giving him special treatment essentially just because of his skin colour? I saw this story posted elsewhere earlier and the comments were full of pictures of this exact same "mode of transport" being used for white people, obviously it must be a common enough method for mounted police. But let's waste everyone's time and police resources just in case the internet goes off on one again

Chris_Heilong

Now ignore his colour and you will see 2 police officers escorting a man they have apprehended to the squad car which is the absolute truth with no hidden meanings, no one deserves special treatment because of their skin colour.

irishgrover

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Now ignore his colour and you will see 2 police officers escorting a man they have apprehended to the squad car which is the absolute truth with no hidden meanings, no one deserves special treatment because of their skin colour.

I strongly disagree with the simplistic sentiment on this post.

ILoveYourVibes

Spleerbun wrote: »

Why should they have to waste unnecessary time and resources on transporting a criminal, giving him special treatment essentially just because of his skin colour? I saw this story posted elsewhere earlier and the comments were full of pictures of this exact same "mode of transport" being used for white people, obviously it must be a common enough method for mounted police. But let's waste everyone's time and police resources just in case the internet goes off on one again

The man has a history of mental illness. He is homeless. He was simply trespassing.

They should have waited.

Galwayguy35

pinkyeye wrote: »

https://www.thejournal.ie/officers-leading-black-man-by-a-rope-in-texas-sparks-outrage-4755043-Aug2019/


This is one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen.

Is there any hope for the US?

Dial down the leftie hysteria a notch, he was a criminal being brought to justice.

Spleerbun

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

The man has a history of mental illness. He is homeless. He was simply trespassing.

They should have waited.

Agree to disagree, I see no reason to wait at all.

The Enbalmer

Matt Barrett wrote:

The 'context' is the idea that any annoyed by this are only pretending because he's black. I ask why? The real context is a black man being led by rope. It has historical and modern connotations, hence the outrage.

Who actually cares?

There's a reasonable explanation for it so why are you getting your knickers in a twist?

pinkyeye

paw patrol wrote: »

oh the outrage. The only officers available were the horsey ones.
they took the practical option to bring him to the station that way which is an official tactic.
what were they supposed to do? let him ride the fuc*ing horse home?

but lets' not be reasonable...lets have some contrived anger instead cos we all like that

What they should of done, if it's true that no car was available was one of them should have gotten off his lazy arse and walked the man back to the station, very simple.

We are long past the stage when you can treat people like animals. Or at least I am, don't know about you. :rolleyes:

ILoveYourVibes

pinkyeye wrote: »

What they should of done, if it's true that no car was available was one of them should have gotten off his lazy arse and walked the man back to the station, very simple.

We are long past the stage when you can treat people like animals. Or at least I am, don't know about you. :rolleyes:

He prob didn't want to do that alone.

Gatling

You would think the police in the same state that James Byrd Jr was dragged to his death behind a pickup truck by KKK members they might have a bit more sensitivities when it comes to dealing with minorities , especially after the latest mass shooting.

They should have waited for a vehicle .

pinkyeye

DanDan6592 wrote: »

It is fake outrage, and no doubt had he been white no one would really care. But surely they should've known how that would look, given Americas history and how heated things are over there at the moment. Why not put on the horse in front of one of the officers, or call for a car.

A serious own goal it has to be said.

It's not fake outrage on my part, I am genuinely outraged. Don't know who wouldn't be??

ILoveYourVibes

what they could have done is have one man walk him the other leading the horse on horse back.

That would have solved everything.

They are just not that bright.

riffmongous

Jesus but this forum is truly ****ed if people can't see the problem here. Ignore the colour of his skin? Ffs

ILoveYourVibes

Spleerbun wrote: »

Agree to disagree, I see no reason to wait at all.

One man could have got off and walked him down while the other rode and lead his horse beside them.

ILoveYourVibes

riffmongous wrote: »

Jesus but this forum is truly ****ed if people can't see the problem here. Ignore the colour of his skin? Ffs

You should not do this to any man. I mean if he was a raging lunatic maybe. But he wasn't.

pinkyeye

The Enbalmer wrote: »

Who actually cares?

There's a reasonable explanation for it so why are you getting your knickers in a twist?

I care.

RandomName2

paw patrol wrote: »

oh the outrage. The only officers available were the horsey ones.
they took the practical option to bring him to the station that way which is an official tactic.
what were they supposed to do? let him ride the fuc*ing horse home?

but lets' not be reasonable...lets have some contrived anger instead cos we all like that

They also could have hogtied him. :pac:

The police in America are heavy handed and loutish, particularly with racial minorities. Dragging someone, handcuffed, through a town by a fking rope, by two cops riding horses, for trespass, is about the caliber of law enforcement that we could hope for. I mean, at least they didn't kill him, right?

ILoveYourVibes

RandomName2 wrote: »

I mean, at least they didn't kill him, right?

So true.

paw patrol

One eyed Jack wrote: »

A tad hyperbolic, no? :pac:





Call for a car to pick him up, instead of taking the stupid option.

Leading the man like that isn’t by any stretch a reasonable or practical course of action.

there was no car.

pinkyeye wrote: »

What they should of done, if it's true that no car was available was one of them should have gotten off his lazy arse and walked the man back to the station, very simple.

We are long past the stage when you can treat people like animals. Or at least I am, don't know about you. :rolleyes:

try manage a horse and an arrested man can't imagine that is easy either.
yeah they should have had a car but they didn't.. and did the practical thing..

life isn't perfect but doing your job in difficult circumstances shouldn't get the outrage this does.
suppose the could follow garda protocol and say there is no car available so lets do fuc* all

pinkyeye

riffmongous wrote: »

Jesus but this forum is truly ****ed if people can't see the problem here. Ignore the colour of his skin? Ffs

The average age on here must be 12 if people don't realise the significance of this.

ILoveYourVibes

TBH the prisoner would have been a lot more secure if he had been followed by a police officer on the ground rather than having a rope slid through his handcuffs for the policeman to hold while on horseback.

pinkyeye

paw patrol wrote: »

there was no car.




try manage a horse and an arrested man can't imagine that is easy either.
yeah they should have had a car but they didn't.. and did the practical thing..

life isn't perfect but doing your job in difficult circumstances shouldn't get the outrage this does.
suppose the could follow garda protocol and say there is no car available so lets do fuc* all

I for one am glad I live in a country where our police force don't drag a human through the streets on a rope. For trespassing!!! He wasn't shooting a load of people in a Walmart.

And I'm accused of hyperbole. :rolleyes:

Sir Oxman

The optics are not good.

ILoveYourVibes

Sir Oxman wrote: »

The optics are not good.

Texas policemen are not exactly the best and brightest are they?

Sir Oxman

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Texas policemen are not exactly the best and brightest are they?

There was an AMA on here a few weeks back, an Irish man who is a cop in Texas.
I wonder what he'd have to say? Hmm.

osarusan

Hard to believe the optics of it, and inevitable public reaction, would never have occurred to the police as they decided to take that course of action.

Galwayguy35

RandomName2 wrote: »

They also could have hogtied him. :pac:

The police in America are heavy handed and loutish, particularly with racial minorities. Dragging someone, handcuffed, through a town by a fking rope, by two cops riding horses, for trespass, is about the caliber of law enforcement that we could hope for. I mean, at least they didn't kill him, right?

It's also worth bearing in mind that there's a good chance a police officer in America could be shot dead while doing something as simple as a traffic stop so I don't blame them for being what you would call heavy handed from time to time.

ILoveYourVibes

Sir Oxman wrote: »

There was an AMA on here a few weeks back, an Irish man who is a cop in Texas.
I wonder what he'd have to say? Hmm.

:rolleyes:

MarquisDeSad

riffmongous wrote: »

Jesus but this forum is truly ****ed if people can't see the problem here. Ignore the colour of his skin? Ffs

This place is overrun with these far righters.

The level of ignorance to that image is stunning.

ILoveYourVibes

It isn't even about the color of his skin.

We lead dogs and horses in public not humans if we can avoid it.

Sir Oxman

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Huh?

ILoveYourVibes

Sir Oxman wrote: »

Huh?

I am rolling my eyes at texas policemen.

I need to do it again.

:rolleyes:

Sir Oxman

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I am rolling my eyes at texas policemen.

I need to do it again.

:rolleyes:

Oh. It'd be interesting to hear is this normal though (for all white/hispanic/black crimninals apprehended by horsey cops)
Texas is a pretty big place though and there are so many levels of law enforcement.

Gatling

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

It's also worth bearing in mind that there's a good chance a police officer in America could be shot dead while doing something as simple as a traffic stop

There is actually more chance of an unarmed civilian getting shot at a traffic stop by a cop than the other way around

ILoveYourVibes

Sir Oxman wrote: »

Oh. It'd be interesting to hear is this normal though (for all white/hispanic/black crimninals apprehended by horsey cops)
Texas is a pretty big place though and there are so many levels of law enforcement.

It is.

Its also how they rope steers pretty much.

ILoveYourVibes

Originally Posted by Galwayguy35 View Post
It's also worth bearing in mind that there's a good chance a police officer in America could be shot dead while doing something as simple as a traffic stop

The had searched him and knew he was unarmed. He was handcuffed and between two horses.

And if they were that worried they could have waited for the car.

Raconteuse

paw patrol wrote: »

what were they supposed to do? let him ride the fuc*ing horse home?

No? Why would that be the only other option? And jeez, chill.

"Faux outrage", "leftie hysteria", "virtue signalling" - reads like parody or a kid repeatedly using a new term they don't fully know the meaning of but it sounds good.

Instead of trying to look all hard-ass, have a think about the context here (and to echo what another poster said, why is it "faux" outrage? Where's the evidence it's not genuine?)

Misplaced anger maybe, knee-jerk, but as if the right aren't guilty of that. And while the intention wasn't sinister and it will likely be blown out of proportion, it's in grossly poor taste for historical reasons - and people who think " wtf?" when they see it, are being genuine. No need to pretend not to see what the issue is.

It doesn't make me condemn the entire Texas police force (which is silly - it's gargantuan) but it was a really unwise course of action.