Cooperation with property viewing

Fol20

limnam wrote: »

As I mentioned, assuming there isn't

Potential threats from a landlord are not a reason to give up your "enjoyment of your home.

The ll is not threatening them. These are just facts that if a ll doesnt meet me half way, i will certainly not go out of my way to help them either.

limnam

Fol20 wrote: »

There is also no reason/obligation for a ll to supply a reference. Its called good will here and if i dont receive good will, and unless i am under law obligated to provide it why should i do the same back to you.

Asking a tenant to keep uplifting for viewings is a lot more than good will.

If a landlord wants to sell a home

Give notice.

Put house up for sale.

No one has to rely on good will. Everyone gets what they need.

limnam

limnam wrote: »

Going around in circles.

As they're not doing anything wrong.

There's no reason for the landlord not supply a reference.

Yes we are going around in circles. I don’t agree with viewings while the tenant is in situ, the op should say no to this.

The LL should also stick to only what is required, valid notice should be served, op leaves at the end of notice, LL has no reason to give a reference, extend the tenancy nor reduce the notice to accommodate the op.

Everybody knows where they stand, no one does any more than you they are obligated to do, LL then can hold viewings, op moves into the new home they own, or they take their chances with the hundreds/thousands also looking for rental accommodation. Happy days.

limnam

Fol20 wrote: »

The ll is not threatening them. These are just facts that if a ll doesnt meet me half way, i will certainly not go out of my way to help them either.

God forbid the landlord acts professionally and tenant adhere's to contract.

Fol20

limnam wrote: »

God forbid the landlord acts professionally and tenant adhere's to contract.

Please explain how this isnt professional. As you pointed out, both parties can adhere to the contract however if the contract doesnt state the ll has to provide a reference or allow a tenant leave earlier than the valid notice period then they wont allow any lea-way. That is all im saying.

Im agree with you that they are not under obligation to allow viewings, most would but thats a persons prerogative. Just dont expect a ll to be flexible if your not flexible with them.

limnam

Fol20 wrote: »

Please explain how this isnt professional. As you pointed out, both parties can adhere to the contract however if the contract doesnt state the ll has to provide a reference or allow a tenant leave earlier than the valid notice period then they wont allow any lea-way. That is all im saying.

Im agree with you that they are not under obligation to allow viewings, most would but thats a persons prerogative. Just dont expect a ll to be flexible if your not flexible with them.

So if ll's are not obliged to give references regardless. Other LL's shouldn't expect them.

A professional landlord should not be putting their tenant out by having viewings during thier tenancy.

So if the land lord acts professionally, tenant adheres to contract. There's no reason to withhold a reference for a tenant not doing something they shouldn't be asked to so in the first place.

Can't believe this is even up for debate.

limnam

limnam wrote: »

So if ll's are not obliged to give references regardless. Other LL's shouldn't expect them.

A professional landlord should not be putting their tenant out by having viewings during thier tenancy.
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I agree with the second part, but LL though not obliged to give them, they do for the most part require them. A tenant who cannot provide a good one is at an enormous disadvantage.

Fol20

limnam wrote: »

So if ll's are not obliged to give references regardless. Other LL's shouldn't expect them.

A professional landlord should not be putting their tenant out by having viewings during thier tenancy.

So if the land lord acts professionally, tenant adheres to contract. There's no reason to withhold a reference for a tenant not doing something they shouldn't be asked to so in the first place.

Can't believe this is even up for debate.

You seem to point towards contracts when it suits you and to disregard when it doesnt. Being professional is abiding by the law and contract you signed, nowhere does it say a ll is obligated to provide a reference so stop mixing them up please.


Providing a reference is not part of of the process of you renting. It requires admin work from the ll side to provide you with a reference, i know of some ll that charge for this service so if a ll wanted to be awkward similar to a tenant being awkward with viewings, then he is entitled to this.

I agree that the tenant isnt obliged to allow viewings. Most allow it out of mutual respect for each other coupled with both potentially benefiting out of it in different ways.

As you said, this is going around in circles. All we are saying is that if one party follows the exact rule of the land without any adjustment for practicality, dont expect the other to offer anything in return either.

Murt10

the_syco wrote: »

When looking for a new place to rent, the new LL may wonder why you can't provide a LL reference for these 8 years. Because if the LL can't show the house, they have no reason to give you a good reference.

Quick question, but what's to stop OP from getting a mate to write him an excellent reference with mates phone no, confirming that Clt has been an absolutely model tenant in every way?

Not saying Clt wasn't a model tenant, but how is the new landlord to know who he is dealing with?

limnam

Murt10 wrote: »

Quick question, but what's to stop OP from getting a mate to write him an excellent reference with mates phone no, confirming that Clt has been an absolutely model tenant in every way?

Not saying Clt wasn't a model tenant, but how is the new landlord to know who he is dealing with?

There's loads of ways around it tbh.

But one shouldn't have to. Especially when they're not getting one as punishment for something they shouldn't have been asked to do in the first place.