Supposedly extremely attractive people who you don't find attractive?

paul71

Lotus Flower wrote: »

Didn't know they got together. However, Streisand was a great beauty and anyone who says otherwise is just too basic to see it

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/photography/11123091/The-Barbra-Streisand-Effect.html


Just no, I will stay basic thank you.

Holly13

There are better photos of her than that.
Can see why people may not find her attractive.
IMO she is attractive though. At first glance her nose is overwhelming, however she is one of those people who the longer you look at her the more attractive she becomes.
Also she had very good skin and hair and nice blue eyes- similar to Jennifer Anniston in that regard, who also doesn’t have the best facial features but is attractive overall.
About hair - most female celebs now have extensions or wear hair pieces to make their hair appear fuller. Good natural thick long hair is not that common

paul71 wrote: »

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/photography/11123091/The-Barbra-Streisand-Effect.html


Just no, I will stay basic thank you.

Lotus Flower

paul71 wrote: »

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/photography/11123091/The-Barbra-Streisand-Effect.html


Just no, I will stay basic thank you.

Obviously the hair is a bit dated (fashionable at the time, I'm sure) but facially she is gorgeous. If you're into cookie cutter beauty, you won't see that

cj maxx

Holly13 wrote: »

I never got the Marilyn Monroe thing. She was very ordinary looking except for the blonde hair.
She also had plastic surgery - nose and chin.
Would understand if she had a great personality or talent. Her speciality seemed to be acting like a “bimbo”
Not saying she was a bimbo in real life or anything.
Her icon status seems to be based on the fact that she was troubled and died young, which is kind of sad really.

I love the supposed quote of hers to Albert einstein.
"If we had a baby albert , with your brains and my looks it could rule the world.
To which he replied " what if they had my looks and your brains "

BDI

Serena Williams
Beyoncé

Plumbthedepths

BDI wrote: »

Serena Williams
Beyoncé[/quote
Has anyone, anywhere ever described Serena as attractive?

BDI

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

BDI wrote: »

Serena Williams
Beyoncé[/quote
Has anyone, anywhere ever described Serena as attractive?

Yeah she is a style icon aparantly. Kanye seems to like her ass. I think it’s on par with a shot putt throwers ass.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

paul71 wrote: »

It is going back to the 1990s but I just never understood how people at the time described Barbra Streisand, what the hell was Andre Agassi thinking?

People tell one of my friends that she looks like Barbara Streisand. She does not take it as a compliment. I think she’s way prettier than Streisand myself personally. I only recently found about Streisand and Agassi. Mad, Ted.

Feisar wrote: »

I really never got the Princess Di thing.

Paddy Cow wrote: »

When compared with the rest of the royals, she's stunning. If she was in Hollywood, not so much.

This. For a product of a small gene pool (she wasn’t Royal-born but was an aristocrat), she was good-looking. Highly irritating though, so simpering. And that was probably put on.

Wibbs

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

People tell one of my friends that she looks like Barbara Streisand. She does not take it as a compliment.

Yeah Streisand had pretty eyes and a truly fantastic voice, brains and a forceful personality, all of which made her attractive, but a "great beauty" she was not.

That 70's flic she starred in with Robert Redford, The Way We Were, the difference between his level of near farcically handsome and her quirky look was a very wide one.



That was a major part of its appeal as a story for many women(who were the principle audience). His character turns down the classically beautiful women for her "quirkiness" and "personality". A rare gender reversal of the near constant Hollywood trope of the very average looking, even below average looking man ending up with the total babe who turns down the handsome and rich blokes. Hell even in cartoon form that's a thing. Homer Simpson is a bald fat oaf and Marge is well outa his league. Though the Way We Were ends up a more complex and crafted story than 90% of the average guy ends up with utter babe flics. For a start it's more realistic and they don't end up together. Good film actually and she's very good in it, he just does "him" as usual. But I digress...

Lotus Flower

Wibbs wrote: »

Yeah Streisand had pretty eyes and a truly fantastic voice, brains and a forceful personality, all of which made her attractive, but a "great beauty" she was not.

That 70's flic she starred in with Robert Redford, The Way We Were, the difference between his level of near farcically handsome and her quirky look was a very wide one.



That was a major part of its appeal as a story for many women(who were the principle audience). His character turns down the classically beautiful women for her "quirkiness" and "personality". A rare gender reversal of the near constant Hollywood trope of the very average looking, even below average looking man ending up with the total babe who turns down the handsome and rich blokes. Hell even in cartoon form that's a thing. Homer Simpson is a bald fat oaf and Marge is well outa his league. Though the Way We Were ends up a more complex and crafted story than 90% of the average guy ends up with utter babe flics. For a start it's more realistic and they don't end up together. Good film actually and she's very good in it, he just does "him" as usual. But I digress...

Streisand is a great beauty- the problem is, you (and others) have been conditioned to think that a cookie cutter type beauty is better than someone who doesn't fit the mould. Jack Nicholson and many others fell in love with her. I stand by my earlier statement- she is a great beauty and anyone who says otherwise is just too basic to see it

paul71

Lotus Flower wrote: »

Streisand is a great beauty- the problem is, you (and others) have been conditioned to think that a cookie cutter type beauty is better than someone who doesn't fit the mould. Jack Nicholson and many others fell in love with her. I stand by my earlier statement- she is a great beauty and anyone who says otherwise is just too basic to see it

No I disagree, you are trying to use reverse physiology and disparage peoples opinions by suggesting they have less refined tastes and I call bull on that. Streisand has always provoked debate of this type and I am glad I brought her into the conversation as it is the classic example.
I have no idea what a cookie cutter is and could care less, I just find Streisand to be distinctly unattractive and actually as someone mentioned earlier she has a similar look to Jennifer Aniston whom I also find unattractive but never made the connection between the two until mentioned in this tread. Is she a cookie cutter?

Wibbs

Lotus Flower wrote: »

Streisand is a great beauty- the problem is, you (and others) have been conditioned to think that a cookie cutter type beauty is better than someone who doesn't fit the mould. Jack Nicholson and many others fell in love with her. I stand by my earlier statement- she is a great beauty and anyone who says otherwise is just too basic to see it

I didn't say she couldn't be attractive, it appears she was and while beauty can be a movable feast that shifts over time and fashion, at its most basic it's down to and oddly enough, how regular and "average" and masculine or masculine facial features are. Her nose alone skews that and her eyes while pretty are beady with it.

Personally speaking I tend to prefer more kooky features in women, such as what Streisand had. I find them less bland than many more revered types, so I have no skin in that game. That's what I tend to find attractive, but at the same time I wouldn't describe them as "great beauties".

misterme123

Lotus Flower wrote: »

Streisand is a great beauty- the problem is, you (and others) have been conditioned to think that a cookie cutter type beauty is better than someone who doesn't fit the mould. Jack Nicholson and many others fell in love with her. I stand by my earlier statement- she is a great beauty and anyone who says otherwise is just too basic to see it

So not fancying Barbara Streisand is an unnatural response brought about by conditioning of basic minds? That's a bit much.



Maybe she just has weird, quirky looks which only appeal (but appeal a lot) to a minority.


Disclaimer: Can't stand her or her awful films.

iamwhoiam

Lotus Flower wrote: »

Streisand is a great beauty- the problem is, you (and others) have been conditioned to think that a cookie cutter type beauty is better than someone who doesn't fit the mould. Jack Nicholson and many others fell in love with her. I stand by my earlier statement- she is a great beauty and anyone who says otherwise is just too basic to see it

Anyone who has an opinion that differs from yours is too basic ?

Paddy Cow

She looks like Jennifer Lawrence in that picture.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Wibbs wrote: »

Yeah Streisand had pretty eyes and a truly fantastic voice, brains and a forceful personality, all of which made her attractive, but a "great beauty" she was not.

Trust me, a woman who gets told she looks like her is only going to be thinking about her looks. Personality won’t figure.

Wasn’t a big part of ‘The Way We Were’ how mismatched they were? Redford is so bland to me though personally. I don’t care if I couldn’t pull heyday Redford. I wouldn’t want him!

dubstarr

Paddy Cow wrote: »

She looks like Jennifer Lawrence in that picture.

She so does as well

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Lotus Flower wrote: »

Streisand is a great beauty- the problem is, you (and others) have been conditioned to think that a cookie cutter type beauty is better than someone who doesn't fit the mould. Jack Nicholson and many others fell in love with her. I stand by my earlier statement- she is a great beauty and anyone who says otherwise is just too basic to see it

I can never work out what basic means when used this way. Maybe I’m too... basic?

Anyway, anyone who says otherwise simply holds a differing opinion. What makes you the arbiter? I’m sure men did fall in love with her. People of varying looks have people fall in love with them. Otherwise, many of us would never experience love.

There are lots of good-looking, symmetrical women in Mad Men but my husband’s favourite is Rosemarie DeWitt who plays Midge. She has a prominent nose. He doesn’t care and thinks she’s really sexy. He usually likes the more symmetrical celebs. People are well capable of looking beyond the norm. You just fancy who you fancy and that’s it.

Paddy Cow

dubstarr wrote: »

She so does as well

And Robert Redford could be Brad Pitt's dad :pac:

Paddy Cow

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I can never work out what basic means when used this way.

Apparently it means this

A basic person is an individual who is totally deprived of being extraordinary and sophisticated. Basic people are usually boring, average, and willing to settle for less. They are middling in everything they do and they lack flavor and style in their personality. They like what everyone else likes and hates what everyone else hates.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Paddy Cow wrote: »

Apparently it means this



:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Well, now we know. Lotus Flower is special!

Paddy Cow

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Well, now we know. Lotus Flower is special!

You're just jellus ODB :P Lotus flowers are special :pac::D

The lotus flower is one of the most ancient and deepest symbols of our planet. The lotus flower grows in muddy water and rises above the surface to bloom with remarkable beauty. ... Untouched by the impurity, lotus symbolizes the purity of heart and mind. The lotus flower represents long life, health, honor and good luck.

Lotus Flower

misterme123 wrote: »

So not fancying Barbara Streisand is an unnatural response brought about by conditioning of basic minds? That's a bit much.



Maybe she just has weird, quirky looks which only appeal (but appeal a lot) to a minority.


Disclaimer: Can't stand her or her awful films.

No, if you don't fancy her it's not an unnatural response (that's subjective) but she's certainly not weird or quirky. Having a bigger than average nose does not make someone weird or quirky

BDI

Lotus Flower wrote: »

No, if you don't fancy her it's not an unnatural response (that's subjective) but she's certainly not weird or quirky. Having a Jewish nose does not make someone weird or quirky

Have ye got a Jewish nose, is that what yer trying to tell us?

Lotus Flower

BDI wrote: »

Have ye got a Jewish nose, is that what yer trying to tell us?

More Roman, I think

Lotus Flower

Paddy Cow wrote: »

Apparently it means this



:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Pretty much that! Those who've been led to believe that certain things are "Weird" or "quirky"

Hal3000

I’m extremely attractive but I don’t find myself attractive. Does that count ?

Hangdogroad

Alexa Chung, nice face but horribly thin and has weird knobbly knees.

Holly13

Lotus Flower wrote: »

Pretty much that! Those who've been led to believe that certain things or "Weird" or "quirky"

I don’t think people would describe Streisand’s looks as “quirky” if they saw her in the street. However her look was very “unusual” in Hollywood.
Most Hollywood actresses (and actors) have had work done to make their nose more photogenic.
eg Ryan Gosling, Blake Lively, Jennifer Anniston, Patrick Dempsey, Angelina Jolie, Benjamin Bratt.... this list goes on.

Quantum Erasure

Hal3000 wrote: »

I’m extremely attractive but I don’t find myself attractive. Does that count ?

would you **** me? I'd **** me

Paddy Cow

Lotus Flower wrote: »

No, if you don't fancy her it's not an unnatural response (that's subjective) but she's certainly not weird or quirky. Having a Jewish nose does not make someone weird or quirky

No one mentioned her nose or being Jewish. Don't make it into that.

BDI wrote: »

Have ye got a Jewish nose, is that what yer trying to tell us?

No need for that.

Seriously lads. Cut the bullsh!t.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Lotus Flower wrote: »

No, if you don't fancy her it's not an unnatural response (that's subjective) but she's certainly not weird or quirky. Having a Jewish nose does not make someone weird or quirky

There’s no such thing as a Jewish nose. That’s just an outdated stereotype and kind of a slur, to be honest. It’s been researched, the supposed Jewish nose shape is just as common in many different ethnicities.

Lotus Flower

Paddy Cow wrote: »

No one mentioned her nose or being Jewish. Don't make it into that.


No need for that.

Seriously lads. Cut the bullsh!t.

Several people did mention her nose, actually.

Lotus Flower

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

There’s no such thing as a Jewish nose. That’s just an outdated stereotype and kind of a slur, to be honest. It’s been researched, the supposed Jewish nose shape is just as common in many different ethnicities.

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DrPhilG

Lotus Flower wrote: »

Streisand was a great beauty and anyone who says otherwise is just too basic to see it

Lotus Flower wrote: »

Streisand is a great beauty- the problem is, you (and others) have been conditioned to think that a cookie cutter type beauty is better than someone who doesn't fit the mould.

Lotus Flower wrote: »

If you're into cookie cutter beauty, you won't see that

Never read such a load of arrogant condescending nonsense in my life.

So anyone who thinks Sarah Jessica Parker is horse faced is horrible and mean, and and anyone who disagrees with your opinion of what counts as beautiful is essentially thick.

Catch yourself on.

Lotus Flower

DrPhilG wrote: »

Never read such a load of arrogant condescending nonsense in my life.

So anyone who thinks Sarah Jessica Parker is horse faced is horrible and mean, and and anyone who disagrees with your opinion of what counts as beautiful is essentially thick.

Catch yourself on.

Well I didn't say thick, I said basic. And yes, that's pretty much it

dickangel

I don't think Emma Stone is good looking at all really.

Lotus Flower

P.s my "basic" comment was actually flippant, which is apparently the tone of this thread. But it's funny to see the same people who were adamant that the tone of the thread was jokey and not at all mean get so offended over it.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Lotus Flower wrote: »

Several people did mention her nose, actually.

They said her nose was big. Which it is. I said earlier that Rosemarie DeWitt’s nose was big. Pretty sure she’s not Jewish. Nobody mentioned anything about ethnicities.

Lotus Flower wrote: »

Well I didn't say thick, I said basic. And yes, that's pretty much it

Same difference. Get over yourself.

DrPhilG

Lotus Flower wrote: »

P.s my "basic" comment was actually flippant, which is apparently the tone of this thread. But it's funny to see the same people who were adamant that the tone of the thread was jokey and not at all mean get so offended over it.

I'm not offended. I just think it's ironic that you spent so long getting your knickers in a twist over the mean things said about SJP (who will never see this thread) yet you're flat out rude about the people actually posting in the thread.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Lotus Flower wrote: »

Streisand is a great beauty- the problem is, you (and others) have been conditioned to think that a cookie cutter type beauty is better than someone who doesn't fit the mould. Jack Nicholson and many others fell in love with her. I stand by my earlier statement- she is a great beauty and anyone who says otherwise is just too basic to see it

Ya basic, really?

Here’s the thing about beauty. If everybody disagrees with you, you’re wrong.

Lotus Flower

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

They said her nose was big. Which it is. I said earlier that Rosemarie DeWitt’s nose was big. Pretty sure she’s not Jewish. Nobody mentioned anything about ethnicities.

ODB, as I mentioned, I amended my post so that should be that.

BDI

Jesus it’s hotting up in here, what about Bette Midler, hows her nose?

daveorourke77

Scarlett Johannson

Never got it.

Plumbthedepths

This thread is proof of the old expression "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and of course everyone has their own opinion. Finally as talented as she is ,Streisand is no beauty.

Tony EH

Elizabeth Taylor - Never got it.
Sophia Loren - Never got that either.
Marilyn Monroe - Not for me.

Tony EH

Greyfox wrote: »

Nonsense, there's lots of objectively good looking people. If a man doesnt think Gal Gadot or Jennifer Lawrence are gorgeous that's fair enough but a man saying there not good looking is kidding themselves

Gadot? No, not at all.

J Law, though. She's nice in an ordinary way. But, I wouldn't say gorgeous.

vriesmays

Tony EH wrote: »

Elizabeth Taylor - Never got it.

Won an Oscar for Butterfield 8, one of the worst Hollywood movies of her career, everyone thought she was dying.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

This thread is proof of the old expression "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and of course everyone has their own opinion. Finally as talented as she is ,Streisand is no beauty.

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder but ugliness is agreed on.

suicide_circus

daveorourke77 wrote: »

Scarlett Johannson

Never got it.

her father is Danish. She wouldnt get a second look walking down the street in Copenhagen such is the staggering quality there.