Galway Cycle Bus, Knocknacarra

what_traffic

All they need do is add a path that integrates with the pedestrian crossings.

Your proposed solution really was a short term hack

or build a safe long term solution?

- now you talking long term?

None of this is "Rocket Science" as you point earlier. Even City Council identified a need at least 10 years ago - but sat on hands for 9 years since. (Familiar storyline with the SQR/BOD.)
€10,000,000 is not much to spend and land is available on the Corridor. WDR is going to be a heavily used cycle and bus route corridor into the future.

In the mean time - CycleBus is going to continue. It is achieving its aim. i.e Kids ability to cycle to school. They cannot wait for Council to act. It is not delaying car users, the "other" cars are doing that for them.

jace_da_face

If you build it, they will come.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuBdf9jYj7o

biko

what_traffic wrote: »

In the mean time - CycleBus is going to continue. It is achieving its aim. i.e Kids ability to cycle to school. They cannot wait for Council to act. It is not delaying car users, the "other" cars are doing that for them.

QFT

So many people focus on what should be done, what could be done, what's happening in London/Holland etc Lots of dream postings

CycleBus is fixing problems, and it's doing it right now.

Bredabe

biko wrote: »

QFT

So many people focus on what should be done, what could be done, what's happening in London/Holland etc Lots of dream postings

CycleBus is fixing problems, and it's doing it right now.

I saw a tweet from a well know to some weather broadcaster posting about a dangerous cycling experience she had with her kids. She referenced the cycle bus here and called for it to be expanded.

From this came tweets from other areas that were looking for parents to help with newly formed cycles busses, so it looks like its taking off and ppl will just have to live with that.

zell12

Does the existence of the cycle bus prove that parents take the view that the roads are dangerous? - ergo they are contributing to it
Kids cycling to school fifteen/twenty years ago was the norm

Mrs OBumble

beardybrewer wrote: »

You are daft to conflate the cycle bus with the city's traffic issues. It's an education/fitness programme. As pointed out already, if anything it is a net positive by taking cars off the road.

Much of the city does not have cycle lanes and guess what, you might have to deal with cycle buses there too hopefully soon. And they have every right to take the road.

Seems to me the bolded bit is the crux of the issue.

Educational programmes are run by qualified, registered educators. Schools are resourced to make them available to all enrolled children, and lots of health and safety principles are applied to make them as safe as possible.

This is a school-transport programme. It's run by community volunteers, outside of school hours. It likely gets some support from the school (promotional, access to garda-vetting, public liability insurance, bicycle parking) - probably more extra work for the school secretary than anyone else.

A walking-bus is just as effective for car-removal and fitness, be open to more children (ie ones whose families cannot afford bicycles or don't have adequate storage for them), and usually doesn't require extra infrastructure (most schools already have footpaths). The concept is well-established overseas - http://www.walkingschoolbus.org/ - but it's not-invented-here (more popular in the UK!) and may struggle to get volunteers because walkers usually don't have the same quasi-religious fervour as bicycle-users.

I totally agree that cyclists have every right to take the road. But I'm quite uncomfortable having children less than about 10 doing so: they usually haven't get developed the cognitive skills needed to understand the risks involved. For the same reason, I don't want to share a footpath with them on bicycles, they have no idea of the consequences of knocking me over.

donvito99

Boardsies discussing at length a means of killing, disrupting or, at the very least, discouraging the long standing tradition of children on the bikes they got on their birthdays or at Christmas from cycling to school, supervised if necessary.

All to make the people causing traffic mayhem a little less angry, so as to prevent them from causing possible serious injury to themselves and others as a result of their impatience.

Meanwhile, a taxi nearly ends some child in Renmore. Bastid thought he had the right to cross on a green man against someone who pays "road" tax! https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058008486/2/#post111039017

Jesus wept