Any 530e owners out there?

Kramer

Bitten & Hisses wrote: »

Question for 530e owners - how many KWh does it take to charge the battery? (assuming that you start from empty)

The most my 9.2kWh version has taken is just over 8.5kWh - it will never discharge below 5%. I would expect the newest version, with 25% more capacity will take, at most, 11kWhs odd.

SummerK

Bitten & Hisses wrote: »

Question for 530e owners - how many KWh does it take to charge the battery? (assuming that you start from empty)

I have seen 11.6kwh couple of times on mine.

ustari

On a similar note, trying to find the hybrid diesel electric engine on ROS for VRT calculation but unable to do so.

Car for example from UK:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202008052112736?radius=1500&advertising-location=at_cars&make=BMW&fuel-type=Hybrid%20%E2%80%93%20Diesel%2FElectric&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&price-from=500&sort=price-asc&body-type=Estate&postcode=bt364pe&price-to=35000&model=5%20SERIES&page=1

Think it will be reasonable as have checked the diesel equivalent along with the 530e but wanted to check. Would be nice to see how it works out with the hybrid VRT grant.

Edit: I see an option when I select Diesel that is MHEV, presume that is it? Mild hybrid would match up with the car spec on bmw site anyway. Won't get any grant for mild hybrid it seems.

Kramer

ustari wrote: »

On a similar note, trying to find the hybrid diesel electric engine

That's a 2 litre turbo diesel. To describe it as a hybrid, or electric, is a fallacy.
Get a PHEV or go full BEV, unless you're doing 50k+ motorway kilometres.

ustari

Kramer wrote: »

That's a 2 litre turbo diesel. To describe it as a hybrid, or electric, is a fallacy.
Get a PHEV or go full BEV, unless you're doing 50k+ motorway kilometres.

Not available in an estate 5 series, I see they have on site that they are bringing out a PHEV autumn this year but that will be outside my budget.

Kramer

ustari wrote: »

Not available in an estate 5 series.

That's certainly a problem if you need an estate then .
Just be aware though, these 48v mild hybrids are practically just fancy/rebranded "start/stop" systems.

I'd expect NOx charges to apply for UK imported diesels too - I'd be sure on the costs to import before pulling the trigger.

Kramer

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/ireland/article/detail/T0270077EN/the-bmw-530e-iperformance?language=en





For all the naysayers who said this was just marketing w@nk - yesterday, in my 530e...........
1047km at an average of 41.8km/h.
Electrical consumption - 17.7kWh/100km.




808/1047 electric/petrol - charged once every day for 20 days (4 weeks, Mon- Friday), short commute, few motorway runs too.

mickdw

Kramer wrote: »

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/ireland/article/detail/T0270077EN/the-bmw-530e-iperformance?language=en





For all the naysayers who said this was just marketing w@nk - yesterday, in my 530e...........
1047km at an average of 41.8km/h.
Electrical consumption - 17.7kWh/100km.




808/1047 electric/petrol - charged once every day for 20 days (4 weeks, Mon- Friday), short commute, few motorway runs too.

Ya if your useage suits the car, its unreal.
Whats the overall cost of those 1000 km?

My petrol car would take about 140 euro to do that mileage on shorter runs like you are doing.

Kramer

mickdw wrote: »

Ya if your useage suits the car, its unreal.

Yep, PHEVs can be great in certain circumstances.

mickdw wrote: »

Whats the overall cost of those 1000 km?

My petrol car would take about 140 euro to do that mileage on shorter runs like you are doing.

Just under €35 between petrol & electricity, or 3.3c/km (20l petrol).
Taking into account the 50% toll discount, 20 return trips in the same period (through a toll, both ways), would net another €20 saving, so under €15 per 1000km, or 1.5c/km.

Best case scenario of course .

Casati

That economy over 20 days doing circa 50km a day makes PHEV’s v convincing versus EV’s or any petrol or diesel. Can’t wait to see more PHEV options especially in estate format.

I know a S90 T8 owner getting over 2 l/ 100km over the last year. Not bad for a car that does sub 5 sec’s to 100kmph

It seems the only people getting bad economy in PHEV’s are car reviewers🀔

lobbylad

Has anyone played with the "Battery Control" setting? Just wondering if there's a particular driving type that provides a (nearly) free charge?

I know it can't be quite free, but for example, is it better to use Battery Charge while motoring along at 120kph on the motorway, or when plodding along in traffic?

Or is it just a bit of a gimmick to set the petrol to charge the battery?

For example, say Dublin to Cork, use the electric at the start of the journey, then put on Battery Control on the motorway and have a full battery on reaching cork?

And in a side note, my Spotify seems to have disappeared...........no longer an option in Media on the idrive screen (can still play it but via bluetooth, album icons etc show but no Spotify menus)

Bitten & Hisses

ustari wrote: »

On a similar note, trying to find the hybrid diesel electric engine on ROS for VRT calculation but unable to do so.

Car for example from UK:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202008052112736?radius=1500&advertising-location=at_cars&make=BMW&fuel-type=Hybrid%20%E2%80%93%20Diesel%2FElectric&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&price-from=500&sort=price-asc&body-type=Estate&postcode=bt364pe&price-to=35000&model=5%20SERIES&page=1

Think it will be reasonable as have checked the diesel equivalent along with the 530e but wanted to check. Would be nice to see how it works out with the hybrid VRT grant.

Edit: I see an option when I select Diesel that is MHEV, presume that is it? Mild hybrid would match up with the car spec on bmw site anyway. Won't get any grant for mild hybrid it seems.

Really nice car, but the VRT will be punitive compared to a 530e

SummerK

lobbylad wrote: »

Has anyone played with the "Battery Control" setting? Just wondering if there's a particular driving type that provides a (nearly) free charge?

I know it can't be quite free, but for example, is it better to use Battery Charge while motoring along at 120kph on the motorway, or when plodding along in traffic?

Or is it just a bit of a gimmick to set the petrol to charge the battery?

For example, say Dublin to Cork, use the electric at the start of the journey, then put on Battery Control on the motorway and have a full battery on reaching cork?

And in a side note, my Spotify seems to have disappeared...........no longer an option in Media on the idrive screen (can still play it but via bluetooth, album icons etc show but no Spotify menus)

When you switch to battery control mode, you are telling car to charge battery to set %. I have seen a slight increase in fuel consumption but its not bad as you get to drive electric at the end of journey. Its not a gimmick in my opinion and is best suited for long drives (M and N roads). Don't use it in city as you could see much lower fuel economy.

Spotify, Napster and Deezer are not available in Ireland. So as soon as you login using your Irish connected drive account, they are removed.

mickdw

lobbylad wrote: »

Has anyone played with the "Battery Control" setting? Just wondering if there's a particular driving type that provides a (nearly) free charge?

I know it can't be quite free, but for example, is it better to use Battery Charge while motoring along at 120kph on the motorway, or when plodding along in traffic?

Or is it just a bit of a gimmick to set the petrol to charge the battery?

For example, say Dublin to Cork, use the electric at the start of the journey, then put on Battery Control on the motorway and have a full battery on reaching cork?

And in a side note, my Spotify seems to have disappeared...........no longer an option in Media on the idrive screen (can still play it but via bluetooth, album icons etc show but no Spotify menus)

Id imagine seeing as the car will do a pretty good job of recovering free energy from braking and coasting in any mode, battery control mode might not be able to better than so much so most of the charge is being paid for in petrol.

wheresthebeef

SummerK wrote: »

When you switch to battery control mode, you are telling car to charge battery to set %. I have seen a slight increase in fuel consumption but its not bad as you get to drive electric at the end of journey. Its not a gimmick in my opinion and is best suited for long drives (M and N roads). Don't use it in city as you could see much lower fuel economy.

Spotify, Napster and Deezer are not available in Ireland. So as soon as you login using your Irish connected drive account, they are removed.

I use Spotify every day, Audible also works fine. Works both from my work iPhone and my personal Samsung S10+.

SummerK

wheresthebeef wrote: »

I use Spotify every day, Audible also works fine. Works both from my work iPhone and my personal Samsung S10+.

I was referring to cars pre-installed Deezer and Napster which use inbuilt sim card data services and don’t rely on your mobile phone.
Of course you can use these apps from your mobile phone via Apple car play or android auto but they will be using mobile phone battery and data.

Paul Kiernan

Kramer wrote: »

808/1047 electric/petrol - charged once every day for 20 days (4 weeks, Mon- Friday), short commute, few motorway runs too.

Kramer, how did you get that data displayed in your car? Is it on the main dashboard? I can't get those figures for mine at all:(.

Kramer

Paul Kiernan wrote: »

Kramer, how did you get that data displayed in your car? Is it on the main dashboard? I can't get those figures for mine at all:(.

The centre screen should have 6 "panels" available, which you can view 3 at a time, or 6 at a time (but smaller).
Scroll wheel left/right to move between them.

The panels are weather, comms (phone info), Nav, car stats.......
You can rearrange these too.

You can also see the same stats in a different format, under vehicle status, in the sub menus.

Cona

Maybe I’m being dim but is there anyway to figure out if the car has a 9kwh or the newer 12kwh battery?

I’m looking at 2019 and I would be hopeful of getting the newer model if possible

SummerK

Cona wrote: »

Maybe I’m being dim but is there anyway to figure out if the car has a 9kwh or the newer 12kwh battery?

I’m looking at 2019 and I would be hopeful of getting the newer model if possible

Cars built post July 2019 have 12kwh battery. Newer versions have live cockpit professional- new dials and not round one’s.

Also co2 on 12kwh is 41 & 38g/km. 9kwh were emitting 49 & 46 g/km.

Paul Kiernan

Cona wrote: »

Maybe I’m being dim but is there anyway to figure out if the car has a 9kwh or the newer 12kwh battery?

I’m looking at 2019 and I would be hopeful of getting the newer model if possible

The newer cars with the 12kWh battery don't have the eDrive badge on the rear quarter panel (i.e. above the petrol filler cap and on opposite side).

wcooba

Paul Kiernan wrote: »

The newer cars with the 12kWh battery don't have the eDrive badge on the rear quarter panel (i.e. above the petrol filler cap and on opposite side).

That's not very indicative. I've seen few 2017 examples without that badge - there is even factory option code not to have it installed.

Bitten & Hisses

SummerK wrote: »

I was referring to cars pre-installed Deezer and Napster which use inbuilt sim card data services and don’t rely on your mobile phone.
Of course you can use these apps from your mobile phone via Apple car play or android auto but they will be using mobile phone battery and data.

Could you re-enable these by adding an Irish SIM card?

SummerK

Bitten & Hisses wrote: »

Could you re-enable these by adding an Irish SIM card?

Nope as I believe they are not licensed in Ireland. They were re-enabled when I added my car on bmw uk connected drive.

VictorRomeo

SummerK wrote: »

Nope as I believe they are not licensed in Ireland. They were re-enabled when I added my car on bmw uk connected drive.

Hi there. Read this last night and inspired me to give it a crack and set up a new UK account. Imagine my surprise when Spotify worked using the built in sim! Set my phone to flight more to verify. Gave Deezer a crack too but that would not work unfortunately. Set up a couple of trial accounts to experiment. Question for you - what works/does not work for you and have you noticed any unforeseen issues with anything else connected drive related?

I should add I'm on a new G20 with iDrive 7.....

Alter_Ego

So if you were to take one of these out on a spirited drive or to a track day, how long would the battery last? 10-15km? I assume when the battery is run down, the car is back to sub-520I performance level, with 184 bhp and 240kg (!) of extra weight. Just curious how much fun you can actually have in one of these.

Heres Johnny

Alter_Ego wrote: »

So if you were to take one of these out on a spirited drive or to a track day, how long would the battery last? 10-15km? I assume when the battery is run down, the car is back to sub-520I performance level, with 184 bhp and 240kg (!) of extra weight. Just curious how much fun you can actually have in one of these.

You can always access battery power as far as I know, the engine keeps it active. Obviously it will use additional petrol to charge but always have aceess to both power sources is my understanding

Kramer

Alter_Ego wrote: »

I assume when the battery is run down, the car is back to sub-520I performance level, with 184 bhp and 240kg (!) of extra weight.

As said, it doesn't work like that.
In sports mode, it keeps the battery charged using excess engine power & energy recovered from regenerative braking, so there's always the 252bhp available.

Look up the Porsche 919 EVO record lap of Nurburgring on youtube - it's eerily similar to the 530e's performance .

Alter_Ego

Heres Johnny wrote: »

You can always access battery power as far as I know, the engine keeps it active. Obviously it will use additional petrol to charge but always have aceess to both power sources is my understanding

Kramer wrote: »

As said, it doesn't work like that.
In sports mode, it keeps the battery charged using excess engine power & energy recovered from regenerative braking, so there's always the 252bhp available.

Look up the Porsche 919 EVO record lap of Nurburgring on youtube - it's eerily similar to the 530e's performance .

Good to know. Wonder what the fuel consumption would be in that case, probably somewhere between 7-9L/100km I'd say.

mickdw

Alter_Ego wrote: »

So if you were to take one of these out on a spirited drive or to a track day, how long would the battery last? 10-15km? I assume when the battery is run down, the car is back to sub-520I performance level, with 184 bhp and 240kg (!) of extra weight. Just curious how much fun you can actually have in one of these.

Day to day road driving, you will never be without the 250 bhp as the car will always reserve some battery or recharge from petrol.
Now its not magic and if in theory you were to race one (you bought the wrong car if you want to do that), you could get into a situation where the demand for acceleration would exceed energy recovery opportunity so in that scenario, the car would be using the engine to charge itself and id imagine there would be a acceleration loss from the petrol engine when doing this as its power output would be partially taken up with charging battery That said, huge levels of recovery of energy would be possible on heavy braking - probably even more if the car was tuned for such driving.
In short, you dont get a heavy 520i in any scenario. What you get is a heavy 530i at a very reduced price with the added advantage that this 530 was run around on very cheap energy for many daily commutes.

wcooba

I think I've read on of the forums about someone depleting battery and eboost logo greyed out. But absolutely - 530e (or G30 in general) is not a race track weapon. M2/M3s are for that 😀
From my personal experience I can attest I've done 1000-1500km motorway trips, with often acceleration and eboost was always available. Recuperation is pretty effective in this car, sometimes ev range was going up from zero to ~5km.

donnaille

Currently looking to buy a used car and the 530e is one of the options. However, I would have a trip from Dublin to Cork potentially one day per week (maybe two on a rare occasion). The majority of other trips during the week would be within the range of the battery. My price range at the moment stretches from H2 2017 to H1 2018 so this would be the older, smaller battery.

Is it crazy to consider a 530e for this - over a 520D for example? Is there any fear that the batteries would start to deplete at this age.

SummerK

VictorRomeo wrote: »

Hi there. Read this last night and inspired me to give it a crack and set up a new UK account. Imagine my surprise when Spotify worked using the built in sim! Set my phone to flight more to verify. Gave Deezer a crack too but that would not work unfortunately. Set up a couple of trial accounts to experiment. Question for you - what works/does not work for you and have you noticed any unforeseen issues with anything else connected drive related?

I should add I'm on a new G20 with iDrive 7.....

Spotify worked for me. I did not try deezer/napster. I tried setting up Alexa account with UK address but it did not work in car.
Have not noiced any issues with uk connected drive account.

Alter_Ego wrote: »

So if you were to take one of these out on a spirited drive or to a track day, how long would the battery last? 10-15km? I assume when the battery is run down, the car is back to sub-520I performance level, with 184 bhp and 240kg (!) of extra weight. Just curious how much fun you can actually have in one of these.

If you take out car with battery fully charged on sports mode, car will mostly rely on petrol engine and use battery for boost. In this scenario, you will always have 250 horses. Just in case battery level goes below 10%, then it recharges using petrol engine. So you always have 530 level performance and not 520 when battery is fully depleted.

SummerK

donnaille wrote: »

Is it crazy to consider a 530e for this - over a 520D for example? Is there any fear that the batteries would start to deplete at this age.

I believe you would be fine with 530e but you're also in diesel territory due to Dub-cork weekly trip.
530e offers more performance than 520D and you would appreciate a near silent drive when in electric mode. Both are great options though. Take a test drive and decide.

Heres Johnny

530e would be a no brainer for me as I like the g30 and I like the idea of a phev too...I work 7kms away and apart from going to the bank the odd day it sits there from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m then whatever leisure activities I do. Once a month for work I go to Limerick, once a month Cork and once a month Antrim.I could claim expenes for this instead of fuel bill covered though.
Only problem is I have a diesel card for work, I shouldnt really but i do (diesel only due to VAT claim back on diesel not on petrol which is another discussion in itself) so I currently have zero fuel bills. I have a 2014 A6 and have had plenty of 5 series over the years so logical step is into a 2018 or so 5 series or a6 next year.

If I can come up with a scheme or a scam or a plan to keep my fuel bills at zero then I would have a 530e. I like the silence, the economy, the power, everything.

A 2001 E39 530i is my all time favourite car I have owned

donnaille

SummerK wrote: »

I believe you would be fine with 530e but you're also in diesel territory due to Dub-cork weekly trip.
530e offers more performance than 520D and you would appreciate a near silent drive when in electric mode. Both are great options though. Take a test drive and decide.

Great, thanks the advice. I'll be moving back from the UK early next year so looking to buy something soon to avoid VRT (I did check with revenue and there's no expectation of changes even with no deal, but fingers crossed).

My only concern would be that I'll need to rent when I first move back as we look to purchase a home and unsure how easy it will be to accommodate charging at a rental.

wcooba

donnaille wrote: »

Great, thanks the advice. I'll be moving back from the UK early next year so looking to buy something soon to avoid VRT (I did check with revenue and there's no expectation of changes even with no deal, but fingers crossed).

My only concern would be that I'll need to rent when I first move back as we look to purchase a home and unsure how easy it will be to accommodate charging at a rental.

Frankly with VRT exemption I would bring 540i or something

Cona

donnaille wrote: »

Great, thanks the advice. I'll be moving back from the UK early next year so looking to buy something soon to avoid VRT (I did check with revenue and there's no expectation of changes even with no deal, but fingers crossed).
.

On a side note, will the changes to importing definitely happen on Jan 1st 2021 and now include VAT on imports, does anyone know?

Contemplating buying one still but in no rush, now starting to think to hold off to later in the year or early next year to save some cash, want a late 2019 (newer model) which are currently all around £30k/€33k

VictorRomeo

SummerK wrote: »

Spotify worked for me. I did not try deezer/napster. I tried setting up Alexa account with UK address but it did not work in car.
Have not noiced any issues with uk connected drive account.

So yeah. Spotify is the only service that works and works really well - it's super fast and sounds decent. I'm a Tidal user and I'd go as far to say native Spotify on iDrive it works better than either Tidal or Spotify via Carplay as I'm finding it a little flaky.

Anyways, Deezer deffo does not work. Further I signed up to a 1-month trial of BMW Music - which uses Napster but presents itself in iDrive as 'BMW Music'. That also does not work.

I also noticed that Connected Drive UK adds the new geofencing city app into the Apps section on iD7. Has zones for major UK and French cities and a bunch of German cities and towns.... Interesting.

Forces news to Great Britan tho. No loss in fairness...

mickdw

Heres Johnny wrote: »

530e would be a no brainer for me as I like the g30 and I like the idea of a phev too...I work 7kms away and apart from going to the bank the odd day it sits there from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m then whatever leisure activities I do. Once a month for work I go to Limerick, once a month Cork and once a month Antrim.I could claim expenes for this instead of fuel bill covered though.
Only problem is I have a diesel card for work, I shouldnt really but i do (diesel only due to VAT claim back on diesel not on petrol which is another discussion in itself) so I currently have zero fuel bills. I have a 2014 A6 and have had plenty of 5 series over the years so logical step is into a 2018 or so 5 series or a6 next year.

If I can come up with a scheme or a scam or a plan to keep my fuel bills at zero then I would have a 530e. I like the silence, the economy, the power, everything.

A 2001 E39 530i is my all time favourite car I have owned

A 530d would be better if your fuel Is covered but a 7km run morning and evening is not work for a diesel.
Could you possibly do a deal with company for a car allowance instead of the fuel card?

commited

wcooba wrote: »

You are welcome. I think you can keep extending warranty until 160kkm. The cost is around 600 per year & imo well worth the peace of mind.

Thats a decent price - is that for the comprehensive warranty with no excess? From memory the price does increase once you go over 100k km so worth moving to a monthly plan before that (at least that was the case 5 years ago!)

Currently driving an older 6 cylinder 530i so the 530e appeals as it seems good value and avoids driving a diesel! Would not contemplate owning one without a warranty though.

wcooba

commited wrote: »

Thats a decent price - is that for the comprehensive warranty with no excess? From memory the price does increase once you go over 100k km so worth moving to a monthly plan before that (at least that was the case 5 years ago!)

Currently driving an older 6 cylinder 530i so the 530e appeals as it seems good value and avoids driving a diesel! Would not contemplate owning one without a warranty though.

It's comprehensive with 335 EUR excess. You are still covered for big ticket items though...

commited

wcooba wrote: »

It's comprehensive with 335 EUR excess. You are still covered for big ticket items though...

Thanks for the reply. By any chance do you recall how much the warranty was with the lower excess levels?

Keggers74

Price attached are for a 2016 330e last year with 50k km.

I ended up paying less though as prices for renewal of an existing warranty are lower (I paid €416 for comprehensive cover with €135 excess and without European emergency cover - Irish breakdown cover is included with all policies).

MickSpur

Hi All,

New 530e owner here. I picked up my Sophisto Grey, 2018 530e M-sport last week, I purchased from BMW Coventry and they delivered it to Holyhead for me. I got a ferry to Holyhead, picked up the car in the car park, boarded the same ferry home. I am very happy with my new wheels.
I know this has been done to death but I was hoping someone might have some experience with a similar spec car?
There are 4 variations (all look the same) of 530e m-sport 46g/km on the VRT site, giving 4 different VRT amounts:

1. €1,273
2. €1,961
3. €2,173
4. €2,670

I would love to have some sort of idea of how much its gonna cost me when I turn up to pay the VRT as there's quite a difference between 1 and 4. Also how much should I expect to pay for extras? Which include:

M-sport + pack (20" BMW individual wheels, HK sound system)
Comfort Pack (Comfort opening, electric memory seats, folding mirrors)
Visibility Pack (Adaptive LED headlights, HUD)

Anyone had any experience with a similar spec car?

MickSpur

MickSpur wrote: »

Hi All,

New 530e owner here. I picked up my Sophisto Grey, 2018 530e M-sport last week, I purchased from BMW Coventry and they delivered it to Holyhead for me. I got a ferry to Holyhead, picked up the car in the car park, boarded the same ferry home. I am very happy with my new wheels.
I know this has been done to death but I was hoping someone might have some experience with a similar spec car?
There are 4 variations (all look the same) of 530e m-sport 46g/km on the VRT site, giving 4 different VRT amounts:

1. €1,273
2. €1,961
3. €2,173
4. €2,670

I would love to have some sort of idea of how much its gonna cost me when I turn up to pay the VRT as there's quite a difference between 1 and 4. Also how much should I expect to pay for extras? Which include:

M-sport + pack (20" BMW individual wheels, HK sound system)
Comfort Pack (Comfort opening, electric memory seats, folding mirrors)
Visibility Pack (Adaptive LED headlights, HUD)

Anyone had any experience with a similar spec car?

Ok My bad, upon proper review I see that the 46g/km is no. 2 €1,961. So that's great but can anyone answer my second question re: how much should I pay for the extras? From what I can make out is that it should be 14% of the additional cost of extras with 25% reduction every year until year 4. Am I right? Any idea how much those extras will have cost?

slave1

As an aside, book your VRT appointment for the month of October to avoid paying September road tax

Kramer

MickSpur wrote: »

New 530e owner here. I picked up my Sophisto Grey, 2018 530e M-sport last week

slave1 wrote: »

As an aside, book your VRT appointment for the month of October to avoid paying September road tax

As he imported it last week, August, waiting until October would mean exceeding the 30 days though :eek:.

From Revenue.ie:

The requirement to register
1. make an appointment with the NCTS within seven days of bringing the vehicle into the State.
and.
1. register it within 30 days of bringing it into the State.

A month's motor tax is €16 odd..........€30k+ car, not worth taking the chance IMO.

I reckon NCTS will "send it off to revenue" for a VRT figure, hopefully they'll be reasonable & not deviate too far from the VRT Calculator figures, taking the extras into account.

Well wear & remember, keep her between the ditches .

MickSpur

Kramer wrote: »

A month's motor tax is €16 odd..........€30k+ car, not worth taking the chance IMO.

I reckon NCTS will "send it off to revenue" for a VRT figure, hopefully they'll be reasonable & not deviate too far from the VRT Calculator figures, taking the extras into account.

Well wear & remember, keep her between the ditches .

Yeah I’m hoping that some of the less necessary extras aren’t picked up or at least aren’t too pricey. I don’t mind paying more considering the extras, just don’t want to get landed with a fright.

Anyone else notice that when you have the sports display on and have the gearbox in sport the HP gauge reads 280hp? Any ideas why BMW say it’s 250bhp?

Kramer

MickSpur wrote: »

Yeah I’m hoping that some of the less necessary extras aren’t picked up or at least aren’t too pricey.......don’t want to get landed with a fright.

You'll be alright .

Anyone else notice that when you have the sports display on and have the gearbox in sport the HP gauge reads 280hp? Any ideas why BMW say it’s 250bhp?

You think I've ever seen the sport displays or used sports mode? :P.