Any 530e owners out there?

fifth

Normal One wrote: »

The silence on a rainy motorway is what swung it for me.

You can get a list of the spec by inputting your VIN here, in case you didn't know...
https://www.mdecoder.com/

Been putting my VIN in to those websites since I picked up the car but none of them are coming back with anything. They all say the VIN isn't recognised. But the BMW website recognises it when I check for software updates..

markobucko

fifth wrote: »

Been putting my VIN in to those websites since I picked up the car but none of them are coming back with anything. They all say the VIN isn't recognised. But the BMW website recognises it when I check for software updates..

Same myself

Catglee

Am considering purchasing however concerned it wouldn't suit my driving profile.
5 days @ 70 km each way motorway driving.
Nowhere to charge during the day between commutes.
Am I better off getting g the 520d?
Would appreciate anyone's feedback who drives a similar pattern

Kramer

Catglee wrote: »

Am considering purchasing however concerned it wouldn't suit my driving profile.
5 days @ 70 km each way motorway driving.
Nowhere to charge during the day between commutes.

I'd 100% be going full battery electric, with that regular commute. You're at 35k km commuting alone & likely 40k km including some weekend driving.
A BEV would yield significant running cost savings, probably €4k per year or more.

Other than that, I'd say you're well into diesel territory. The 530e would be entirely the wrong choice for that usage pattern.

kirving

40,000[km] * 7.0[l/100km] * 1.4[€/l] = €3,920

In perfect conditions, and plugging in in work, night rate at home, etc. the 530e has the potential to cut that fuel bill in half.

Diesel would be ballpark €3k on fuel.

But to achieve that, you need the same diligence at a BEV owner to plug it in all the time. Of course with the caveat that you don't need to.

I think PHEV's have their place, and have a 330e myself which I use mostly for motorway commuting, but I bought it for other reasons than fuel economy (VRT, reliability, power). But in your case, the potential 1k saving vs diesel is hard to achieve in practical terms.

Buddy Bubs

kirving wrote: »

40,000[km] * 7.0[l/100km] * 1.4[€/l] = €3,920

In perfect conditions, and plugging in in work, night rate at home, etc. the 530e has the potential to cut that fuel bill in half.

Diesel would be ballpark €3k on fuel.

But to achieve that, you need the same diligence at a BEV owner to plug it in all the time. Of course with the caveat that you don't need to.

I think PHEV's have their place, and have a 330e myself which I use mostly for motorway commuting, but I bought it for other reasons than fuel economy (VRT, reliability, power). But in your case, the potential 1k saving vs diesel is hard to achieve in practical terms.

This poster doesn't have the opportunity to cut it in half though as there is a 140km round trip with 1 charge. We work about 230 days a year so thats 32000kms commute alone. A quarter of this commute might be on battery power and let's not forget electricity isn't free at home.
Using your figures above of 40000kms at 1.40 per litre and 7 litres per 100km, I reckon they could knock a quarter off it on petrol costs then add electricity costs back......

That said, the difference is going to be small enough to be fair if they do leave for their commute with a full battery....and 530e is a nicer engine than a 520d for most (not trying to start a debate here but most people prefer petrol if cost not an option.
Is a few hundred euro a year that big of a deal for doing 40000kms in a 5 series?

Gumbo

My Mam’s 530e died today.
172 with 90k km.

She was driving as normal and then all of a sudden it started juddering and came to a halt. All electrics working perfect. Lights, doors, everything fine.

Car just wouldn’t power on. Couldn’t get it out of P.
12v fine.

Anyway. Joe Duffy Technician arrived on scene (thank god it occurred 200m from them and we had a contact there) as the main line just told us to get it towed to them. But hard when your in an underground basement car park with P and handbrake engaged!

Anyway long story short, full reboot of the car from the laptop. Car started. Drove straight to joe Duffy. They messed around with it and ended up doing a full software update.

Car back running and told to monitor it

Very strange!

Kramer

Gumbo wrote: »

My Mam’s 530e died today.
172 with 90k km.

She was driving as normal and then all of a sudden it started juddering and came to a halt. All electrics working perfect. Lights, doors, everything fine.

Car just wouldn’t power on. Couldn’t get it out of P.
12v fine.

Could be something as small as the brake pedal switch - could prevent any gear selection if it didn't detect the brake being pressed. Would expect the diagnostics would show a fault though. That wouldn't explain the juddering either.
The bloody thing even knows I've a dashcam operating in parking mode - it detects the few milliamps it draws :eek:.

Gumbo

Kramer wrote: »

Could be something as small as the brake pedal switch - could prevent any gear selection if it didn't detect the brake being pressed. Would expect the diagnostics would show a fault though. That wouldn't explain the juddering either.
The bloody thing even knows I've a dashcam operating in parking mode - it detects the few milliamps it draws :eek:.

Lads in Duffys just said they cleared a catalogue of errors and updated the 2017 software to 2021.

No apparent cause could be found seemly. Just to monitor it over the coming days.

mickdw

Gumbo wrote: »

Lads in Duffys just said they cleared a catalogue of errors and updated the 2017 software to 2021.

No apparent cause could be found seemly. Just to monitor it over the coming days.

I know this was a recent enough purchase.
Does your mother have warranty on it?

Gumbo

mickdw wrote: »

I know this was a recent enough purchase.
Does your mother have warranty on it?

Manufacturer warranty is out.
Dealer warranty still in place and they had a truck on stand by to tow it if the technician couldn’t get it started so that was comforting. They also paid the €120 to duffys for the software update and associated diagnostic.

One of the lads mentioned that if it was still under manufacturers warranty, they may have held onto the car for a week to try replicate the problem.

Seemly they were in consulting with BMW UK and sharing the error codes across and a software update was the recommended fix.

mickdw

Gumbo wrote: »

Manufacturer warranty is out.
Dealer warranty still in place and they had a truck on stand by to tow it if the technician couldn’t get it started so that was comforting. They also paid the €120 to duffys for the software update and associated diagnostic.

One of the lads mentioned that if it was still under manufacturers warranty, they may have held onto the car for a week to try replicate the problem.

Seemly they were in consulting with BMW UK and sharing the error codes across and a software update was the recommended fix.

Not too bad - i really think these need to be kept within warranty of some description.

Kramer

Gumbo wrote: »

Dealer warranty still in place......They also paid the €120 to duffys for the software update and associated diagnostic.

Who paid the €120? Surely diagnosis & attempted remedy (here, the software update) were covered by the dealer warranty?

Kramer

Probably an isolated occurrence but does anyone else get a notification that their 225xe has fully charged?
I imagine it's a backend server issue & I'm getting notifications for someone else's car :eek:.

Anyway, 225xe owner, whoever you are - your car is charged to 100% now, please unplug it :pac:.

mickdw

Kramer wrote: »

Who paid the €120? Surely diagnosis & attempted remedy (here, the software update) were covered by the dealer warranty?

The independent dealer who sold it to them paid the main dealer fee and were going to tow it also.

Kramer

mickdw wrote: »

The independent dealer who sold it to them paid the main dealer fee and were going to tow it also.

The problem with independent dealer warranties is the incentive for main dealers to, how can I say this tactfully, fleece them when it comes to high end cars.

There's very little scope for an independent to troubleshoot electronics in such a new vehicle & if a main dealer says it needs a €2k module, well then that's that.

The main dealer/manufacturer wouldn't be as quick to throw expensive parts into a manufacturer warrantied car.

Personally, I'd prefer a manufacturer extended warranty or main dealer warranty on a relatively new & expensive car, especially one with HV batteries & hybrid drive etc.

Hopefully, in this case it was just some type of software glitch, or a glitch in the matrix - I'm receptive to both possibilities :pac:.

mickdw

Kramer wrote: »

The problem with independent dealer warranties is the incentive for main dealers to, how can I say this tactfully, fleece them when it comes to high end cars.

There's very little scope for an independent to troubleshoot electronics in such a new vehicle & if a main dealer says it needs a €2k module, well then that's that.

The main dealer/manufacturer wouldn't be as quick to throw expensive parts into a manufacturer warrantied car.

Personally, I'd prefer a manufacturer extended warranty or main dealer warranty on a relatively new & expensive car, especially one with HV batteries & hybrid drive etc.

Hopefully, in this case it was just some type of software glitch, or a glitch in the matrix - I'm receptive to both possibilities :pac:.

Id agree 100 percent re warranty.

markobucko

Have a 192 model and with a full charge taking near 5 hrs on granny cable I only get 21/22 Kms of charge.
Does this sound right ?
Thought I seen quotes of nearly double the distance with the bigger battery

Kramer

markobucko wrote: »

Have a 192 model and with a full charge taking near 5 hrs on granny cable I only get 21/22 Kms of charge.
Does this sound right ?

5 hours charging would be right with that cable. A type 2 cable charges at 3.7kW on the 530e so would take just over half that time, 2.5/3 hours.

The range depends on how you drive, the road type, average speed, heating on etc., but as little as 21km would certainly be possible (cold/driving aggressively etc.), as would 40km+ in summer, in an urban area or with a low average speed, driven economically.

fifth

The most I've seen so far on my 201 with the larger 12kWh battery pack was 41km. As soon as I start driving with any AC or heating it drops to 31km.

bilasy

fifth wrote: »

The most I've seen so far on my 201 with the larger 12kWh battery pack was 41km. As soon as I start driving with any AC or heating it drops to 31km.

I’ve 330e every time I charge the battery to 100% I get different km range some time 40 some times 20 does that seem right?
Thank

bilasy

fifth wrote: »

The most I've seen so far on my 201 with the larger 12kWh battery pack was 41km. As soon as I start driving with any AC or heating it drops to 31km.

I’ve 330e every time I charge the battery to 100% I get different km range some time 40 some times 20 does that seem right?
Thank

helimachoptor

Hi folks, some advice please. Almost pulled the trigger on a 330e last year but it was sold before i made a decision.

A couple of local garages have 530e's that i like the look of.
Am doing 2/3 days a week in the office, pretty much all M50 onto N7 (citywest) (no charging available). That is likely to change to a commute to Sandyford later in the year, so will go from a 50km round trip those days to probably a 15km round trip.

From Sept will have two kids in school with different pick up times - school is pretty close, but time constraints mean I will use the car so probably 6km round trip will have both picked up.

We have the usual local spins, GAA training, Swimming, parents are close by etc. So my thoughts are i can do a lot of these on electric.
Wife will be Wfh some of the days too, but her commute is Sandyford aswell.

We have 2 cars at the moment, 191 auto GT 5008, we are up and down to Mayo a bit (will increase as restrictions lift) and we have a mobile home, so lots of up and down to that this year.

I drive a 2011 smax, 120K Miles and this is what i want to get rid of.

Any advice?

Buddy Bubs

You won't do your 50km round trip on electric without a charge and I don't think you'll even do a 15km round trip plus school runs plus other bits and pieces on a single overnight charge.....but you'll do it mostly on electric and that's the thing to remember with phevs, they're dual source power. If you charge it fully every night I still think when you go to a 15k commute you'll derive most of your power from electric. Don't be afraid of using a little petrol, even if its only 50/50 you'll still be well up on a diesel.

Even the mayo trip will only cost a few quid more in a 530e than a 520d. Presume it's not a weekly trip or anything like that.

helimachoptor

Buddy Bubs wrote: »

You won't do your 50km round trip on electric without a charge and I don't think you'll even do a 15km round trip plus school runs plus other bits and pieces on a single overnight charge.....but you'll do it mostly on electric and that's the thing to remember with phevs, they're dual source power. If you charge it fully every night I still think when you go to a 15k commute you'll derive most of your power from electric. Don't be afraid of using a little petrol, even if its only 50/50 you'll still be well up on a diesel.

Even the mayo trip will only cost a few quid more in a 530e than a 520d. Presume it's not a weekly trip or anything like that.

Thanks buddy, the Mayo trips are every 3/4 weeks, but we have a 6/5/2 year old, so they are still in proper seats so the 5008 will be the car that goes on those trips.

From watching youtube, it seems like real-world l/100 is around 6 or so, I can live with that

markobucko

Good deals on some items at. Www.bmwaccessories.ie
Got the winter mat set including boot mat for 209 euro

Buddy Bubs

helimachoptor wrote: »

Thanks buddy, the Mayo trips are every 3/4 weeks, but we have a 6/5/2 year old, so they are still in proper seats so the 5008 will be the car that goes on those trips.

From watching youtube, it seems like real-world l/100 is around 6 or so, I can live with that

6 litre per 100km is in around where you'll end up with a diesel anyway, for the bit of effort of night time charging you should at least match that. If you think a 530e is a superior car to a 520d, which most do, it makes it a decent proposition I suppose.

markobucko

Anyone recommend what engine oil and how much is required for the 530e?

Buddy Bubs

Going to ring this dealership tomorrow to see can I go over for a look, they've 3 cars I'd like to have a look at. The 2018s are slightly high on the miles but priced quite well I believe compared to others on sale. Not mega miles, just high side of average for the year.
The 2017 is lower miles but same price, so not sure there. Presented with these 3 options, which one would jump out at you? I've to familiarize myself with specs and options on these, some of you may know more than I do.
I'm leaning towards the sophisto grey with cream interior and sunroof, solely based on colour combo, but it's early days in my search, may or may not go with any of these 3.

2 of them are listed as having through loading system which I believe is split folding seats, am I correct there? I think if the 3rd doesn't have it it's going to be a deal breaker. I had 5 series without it before and the odd time got caught out. I have folding seats in my a6 and have to say they've been handy.

Or any others you see for sale, limiting myself to 30k budget.

https://www.lmg.ie/vehicle?id=orN7

https://www.lmg.ie/vehicle?id=QamD

https://www.lmg.ie/vehicle?id=WEZ1

fifth

Buddy Bubs wrote: »

Going to ring this dealership tomorrow to see can I go over for a look, they've 3 cars I'd like to have a look at. The 2018s are slightly high on the miles but priced quite well I believe compared to others on sale. Not mega miles, just high side of average for the year.
The 2017 is lower miles but same price, so not sure there. Presented with these 3 options, which one would jump out at you? I've to familiarize myself with specs and options on these, some of you may know more than I do.
I'm leaning towards the sophisto grey with cream interior and sunroof, solely based on colour combo, but it's early days in my search, may or may not go with any of these 3.

2 of them are listed as having through loading system which I believe is split folding seats, am I correct there? I think if the 3rd doesn't have it it's going to be a deal breaker. I had 5 series without it before and the odd time got caught out. I have folding seats in my a6 and have to say they've been handy.

https://www.lmg.ie/vehicle?id=orN7

https://www.lmg.ie/vehicle?id=QamD

https://www.lmg.ie/vehicle?id=WEZ1

The loading might just be through loading. So I can pull down the middle seat in mine and load long items through. But I would have preferred split folding rear seats.

Buddy Bubs

fifth wrote: »

The loading might just be through loading. So I can pull down the middle seat in mine and load long items through. But I would have preferred split folding rear seats.

Thanks, yes I did think that might be case. No pics of boots in any of them. I'm aware boot is compromised with battery so I'd like split seats to be honest.

Kramer

fifth wrote: »

But I would have preferred split folding rear seats.

Buddy Bubs wrote: »

The 2018s are slightly high on the miles but priced quite well I believe compared to others on sale. Not mega miles, just high side of average for the year.
The 2017 is lower miles but same price, so not sure there. Presented with these 3 options, which one would jump out at you?

2 of them are listed as having through loading system which I believe is split folding seats, am I correct there?

The split folding rear seats were important for me so I'd say well worth having. The boot is long but shallow in the 530e.
The dash display (speedo) was slightly updated later in 2018 or possibly '19 (mine is a '19). A small change but again, nice to have as you're looking at it every time you drive it.

Regarding those, warranty & mileage would be my biggest concerns. Factory 3 year warranty from BMW so a later 2018 model would give you some time to get anything rectified by BMW.
You could also take an extended warranty then from BMW. I'm not sure if the car needs to still be in warranty to allow you avail of the extended warranty.

Personally, I'd feel happier with a BMW warranty on such a car as it goes through years 4/5 etc. Complex turbo c/w hybrid/battery & the ZF gearbox.
Some may have come with the BMW service pack too - all servicing covered up to 100,000km or 5 years - no harm checking.

100,000km+ is high enough IMO.

The base audio is pretty poor too, but easily upgradeable.

They are well specced though. Even the base spec is very good on the 530e. Delighted with mine - one of the best all round cars I've ever had & I'm a picky devil .
Best of luck.

markobucko

The base audio is pretty poor too, but easily upgradeable.

Is the car pre wired for the full system ?
I’d upgrade my sound system but not if it needs wires traced

irishgrover

...the only thing thing I can tell you is that I acidentally bought a 530e where you have to pull a fcuking lever to move the drivers seat backwards and forwards...... I never in my life considered that it was possible to buy anything but an eco box with a fcuking manual seat since circa 2000...
So I would sit down and check what you believe the minimum basics are that a car should have and then explicitly check

heroics

irishgrover wrote: »

...the only thing thing I can tell you is that I acidentally bought a 530e where you have to pull a fcuking lever to move the drivers seat backwards and forwards...... I never in my life considered that it was possible to buy anything but an eco box with a fcuking manual seat since circa 2000...
So I would sit down and check what you believe the minimum basics are that a car should have and then explicitly check

Hahaha I’m the opposite. (520d though) Stupid electric seat takes forever to move forward. Have it done in half the time with a lever!

Buddy Bubs

Load through was indeed full split rear seats

SummerK

markobucko wrote: »

The base audio is pretty poor too, but easily upgradeable.

Is the car pre wired for the full system ?
I’d upgrade my sound system but not if it needs wires traced

Nope. I guess kramer meant replacing front speakers to something like eton components with silk dome tweeters.

Buddy Bubs

Found one I liked today, called into a few places. Talking moneys Monday so hopefully I make the move into the plug in world.

Kramer

markobucko wrote: »

The base audio is pretty poor too, but easily upgradeable.

Is the car pre wired for the full system ?
I’d upgrade my sound system but not if it needs wires traced

SummerK wrote: »

Nope. I guess kramer meant replacing front speakers to something like eton components with silk dome tweeters.

Yep, as SummerK said, just upgrading the fronts to the drop in replacement Etons is a big improvement & adding tweeters in the rear shelf is easy too.

Kramer

Mine had a wash yesterday. I'm still enamoured but will likely be parting ways with her shortly. I've a bad habit of changing cars frequently .

I will likely opt for a 545e or X5 45e.

If anyone is contemplating a 530e in the next few months, I'll pop her up here when she's going. It's a 2019 & will have approx just 40k km on the clock. It will still be under full BMW factory warranty, has the 5 year/100,000km service pack, one owner (me!), no finance etc.

markobucko

Kramer wrote: »

Yep, as SummerK said, just upgrading the fronts to the drop in replacement Etons is a big improvement & adding tweeters in the rear shelf is easy too.

Any links to said speakers ??

Kramer

markobucko wrote: »

Any links to said speakers ??

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00BUPR54S/

If you need the A pillar grilles, they are available from BMW or spurious ones are on Ebay.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-Pillar

Buddy Bubs

Does anyone here know how to get chassis number and hence full spec sheet of a car from a reg plate (uk)? Or is that info too sensitive for online activity?

bmwfan

Buddy Bubs wrote: »

Does anyone here know how to get chassis number and hence full spec sheet of a car from a reg plate (uk)? Or is that info too sensitive for online activity?

you need the vin number

the corpo

Irksome issue with the BMW app. Got a recall notice last month to change the Granny cable, brought it in and got it changed, but the recall notice won't leave the app. Any ideas how to delete it?

irishgrover

the corpo wrote: »

Irksome issue with the BMW app. Got a recall notice last month to change the Granny cable, brought it in and got it changed, but the recall notice won't leave the app. Any ideas how to delete it?

I'm "guessing" that once their backend systems are updated to show that your recall has been processed then it will automatically disappear. This is, I think, what happened in my case for the same recall. However, it was 6+ months ago so I can't remember how long it took.

Kramer

the corpo wrote: »

Got a recall notice last month to change the Granny cable, brought it in and got it changed, but the recall notice won't leave the app. Any ideas how to delete it?

Not that I'm aware of. I imagine only BMW could delete it - it's probably held remotely on their servers, rather than locally on the phone.

It doesn't appear on the My BMW app. I reckon they are going to discontinue support for the BMW Connected app in future.

Kramer

Gratuitous 530e interior (with a view!) shot from yesterday :pac:.

mickdw

Kramer wrote: »

Mine had a wash yesterday. I'm still enamoured but will likely be parting ways with her shortly. I've a bad habit of changing cars frequently .

I will likely opt for a 545e or X5 45e.

If anyone is contemplating a 530e in the next few months, I'll pop her up here when she's going. It's a 2019 & will have approx just 40k km on the clock. It will still be under full BMW factory warranty, has the 5 year/100,000km service pack, one owner (me!), no finance etc.

Have you any nice bits of spec on that

the corpo

Kramer wrote: »

Not that I'm aware of. I imagine only BMW could delete it - it's probably held remotely on their servers, rather than locally on the phone.

It doesn't appear on the My BMW app. I reckon they are going to discontinue support for the BMW Connected app in future.

I have both the apps at the moment (don't like the new one yet, it's prettier but I hate all the wasted space on the top of the screen and it's nowhere near as intuitive as BMW Connected) and the message is there in both. Hopefully you're right and they'll do some server update.

For my next question... As part of the recall they decided to coincide it with a vehicle check I was due next month. Is this vehicle check the same as the end of warranty check?

Got a bit of a land when I was sent through a video from BMW saying "this bit's in perfect condition, this bit here too, and here is a MAJOR FAULT...." Wait, what? Car is only a 181 8(

Tray underneath the gearbox is swimming in oil, so they're bringing it back in for further investigation (I'm picturing a new gear box). Very, very bloody grateful to have the warranty, will definitely look to extend it!

It's funny, went from a 2004 Avensis to the 530, and the Avensis almost *never* had a serious problem in all the year I had it...