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Any 530e owners out there?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭maddness


    The vrt is on the vrt calculator but not vat and import duty. Its not really viable to bring a car from the UK anymore unless it’s from Northern Ireland as then you only pay vrt as long as it’s an original northern Irish car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,543 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Take the uk price, convert to euro and add 33 percent for vat and duty.

    Look up the vrt calculator for vrt and nox.

    Nox is only a few euro on a 530e and the vrt is low also. Even so, it won't be viable unless you can get the car out of the UK without vat.

    Dealers can do this and also specialist exporters will do it for you for a fee.

    30k sterling becomes 35k euro. Add 33 percent becomes 46.5k, add say 3.5k vrt and the 30k sterling car is a 50k euro car plus transport and customs handler fees.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4 odonovmark


    thanks for the responses here… all these new charges are crazy. I brought in a few cars myself 10 years ago and it was only vrt that had to be paid.

    looks like I’ll be settling for a Irish reg car.. will probably be cheaper and much less hassle…. By the sounds of it!!



  • Subscribers Posts: 16,602 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    It’s good to have an idea of the uk prices as dealers can bring in the cars without the vat. Basically just the vrt, so you have an idea what they are bringing the cars in at when you see their markup.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭maddness


    How will knowing a dealers mark up help in any way?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭BrookieD


    Hi Guys, So two items for me this evening, Due to the mild weather my 530e charged to 32km range today at the office and mayde it 30km home 100% electric, bloody delighted as i have range to spare... Question though, I am on adaptive and Eco pro, i have noticed that the speed i can travel up to when on eco pro increases at certain parts of my journey.. the E speed blue ring on the speedo increases from 80km to 120 and then after a bit decreases again... i looked online and cannot find the reason so thought i may ask you fine experts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,242 ✭✭✭User1998


    Well in a VW, the lower the battery percentage gets the lower the top speed becomes, and the acceleration threshold for the engine to kick in becomes lower.

    I’ve no idea why it would increase tho. Do the changes correlate with the speed limits or type of road you are driving on?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭BrookieD


    Thanks for the reply, the increase seems to only happen when i am entering the M50 from certain junctions. just as i enter the slipway the speed i can drive increase from the normal up to 140km then after about 1km it drops back to the normal speed range of 80/85km... I am sure there is a reason as to the why but i have no idea



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,395 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    If you set the car to auto-start in e-power mode only , the max "blue" speed is automatically set to ~120kms but in "auto" mode it's limited to 85/90kms.

    Not definitively sure why the car flips between the two options sometimes in auto-mode but I suspect that it's down to torque loading/requirements on the vehicle.

    I've noticed it do it on downhill sections of motorway where it will flip to 120 when in auto-mode, so if you are on a downhill on-ramp that might explain it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭rabbitinlights


    Do you have navigation on? Doesn’t it use that to adapt the power for the location, extra power/speed on slip roads as you join a motorway etc.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭BrookieD


    As it happens i am using the navigation with Adaptive mode as i read online it uses the data to set the car up as needed based on conditions. Today it jump from 85km to 160km as a limit again downhill onto m50 however i was only going maybe 40 due to heavy traffic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,543 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    It probably has a max kW draw allowable in ev mode and then adjusts top speed allowable upwards until that max kW draw is reached.

    So with a wind behind you on a downward slope, the ev speed limit could be a huge figure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭rabbitinlights


    looking for some advice - I’ve my first Dublin-Galway return drive over the bank holiday in my 2022 touring and looking for how people normally approach a drive like this in their 530e?

    hybrid and forget about it?

    adaptive & navigation?

    battery save at 50%?

    Sport until the first toll? 😂

    im probably gonna go adaptive and navigation on the way their and then hybrid on the way back and see if there’s any difference.

    only a granny charger out west but overnight is grand.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Get in and drive.

    Charge when you get home or if you have access to cheap charging at destination.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭maddness


    If you are in no hurry, Eco Pro and cruise control at whatever speed you are comfortable with.

    If you are in a hurry, don’t worry about modes and just drive it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭BrookieD


    Looks like the BMW Connected app was updated and has more stats to admire



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,413 ✭✭✭fletch


    Looking at getting a 2022/2023 530e touring. Joe Duffy have a good few for sale but none of them have adaptive cruise control. Can somebody point out how I would identify a 530e with adaptive cruise control as I don't want to waste my time ringing around or testing driving ones without. Surprised it's not standard on a 5-series BMW tbh as it was a small cost option on my 5 yr old VW Polo. It would really feel like a step back going back to regular cruise control.

    From research it looks like it needs the "Driving Assistant Plus" package which seems to be a rare option (in Ireland at least). Was it an expensive option?

    Edit - looks like it needs to be the 2nd or 3rd option in the below image

    Post edited by fletch on


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,338 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Yes, it's photo 2 or 3. The middle buttons for controlling distance between you and the car in front.

    Rare enough option on the G30/G31, usually comes as part of the expensive driving assistant plus pack with blind spot monitoring, driver attention camera and 360 view cameras afaik. A UK import will be your best chance but many UK imports are fairly basic ex company cars too.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Mine has the ACC, blind spot monitoring but no 360 camera. I believe the camera and the HUD is the only 2 options I’m missing.

    Can’t believe the original owner didn’t spec HUD at least considering they spent a fortune on B&W Sound system alone!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,413 ✭✭✭fletch


    All the Joe Duffy ones are UK imports and don't have it. 😲 It's kind of a deal breaker for me tbh Having had adaptive cruise for the last 5 years, I couldn't imagine my next car not having it. In particular I wanted to move to a bigger car as I am doing more motorway miles now and wanted something big and comfy. Non-adaptive cruise control would actually make my drive more stressful. I nearly assumed a nearly new "executive" saloon would have it at this stage



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    yet a cheap Chinese Model 3 does as with many others, The legacies could learn a thing or 2 from the new kids on the block!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭SweetCaliber


    When I had my 530e I was shocked to know that the ability to fold down the back seats was a paid extra. Seriously. Not even a ski hatch!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,413 ✭✭✭fletch


    Yeah I am very tempted by a brand new BYD Seal AWD instead



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭GPoint


    Try a Japanese import maybe ?
    Seen a few and most have ACC

    Real pain that many cars are poverty spec



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,242 ✭✭✭User1998


    A bog standard VW Golf from 2013 has adaptive cruise control. I hate how so many executive cars are missing it. Its always limited my options in what car I buy



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Very good car. Take a test drive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    They do it to keep the base price down. Nuts really, but it's been going on for years.

    "But it's got no wheels"

    "Ah, now we talk extras"

    Probably 😂



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭rabbitinlights


    All the Joe Duffy & BMW Ireland ones are pretty poor spec imo, you'd be better off looking at the better independents - Beshoffs, GT Motors etc. I ended up getting mine in Tralee to find the spec I was after.

    As has been said above, this is lumped into an expensive pack which isn't that desirable so unless the original owner specced that feature on it's own it's a hard find.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,338 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    I think they consolidated alot of those individual options into packs after Covid when there was a chip shortage so first owner was forced to go with all or none in each pack. ACC is installed on the i4 but not enabled by default, you have to pay over 1k to have it activated over the air. Same with high beam assist, I think they charge €250 to enable it via the BMW app.

    Premium brands will never give you stuff for free if they can get away with charging extra for it. I've seen one or two UK cars recently that had it being sold by smaller independent dealers. They tend to be specced originally by a private owner where as company car tend to be basic as they have a price ceiling for tax purposes. What year are you looking at? GT Motors tend to import very high spec BMWs but their prices can be off the walls and I'm not sure the warranty would be as comprehensive as the BMW Used Car warranty.

    For example:
    https://www.carsireland.ie/3666100


    https://www.carsireland.ie/3561961

    Audi still charge extra for ACC too on most of their models despite it being standard on their cheaper cousins too for years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    I agree - i bought a 222 530e from beshoffs a week ago. very well specced uk import - 6,000 miles with msport+ pack, tech pack, comfort pack and sunroof for €56k.

    Very happy so far.



  • Registered Users Posts: 314 ✭✭Woodie40


    Great, great car, best of luck.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Extend the warranty the minute you can. You only get the option after the original 3 year is up. The electronic modules have a habit of going, KLE, EME etc and they are 1000’s to fix. 5 years additional warranty only will more than make up for getting caught with one module going out of warranty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    ok thanks - it’s under original warranty until December 2025 for now



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭WacoKid


    Have been in both showrooms a few times, bought my 530 from GT Motors. They seem to only bring in higher spec whereas Beshoff could have a bit more mix of high and lower specs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭GPoint


    unlikely bog standard it’s more likely a Japanese import car.

    Irish specs were never good on any car.

    Toyotas now offer it though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,242 ✭✭✭User1998


    Nope, any Golf other than Trendline has it. You don’t need a Jap import or high spec model.



  • Subscribers Posts: 16,602 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    my current 520d has the same except comfort and sunroof. I’m looking at costs at at the moment to move to 2022/23 I’d like the comfort seats, heated steering wheel, but don’t personally like comfort access for security reasons. Looks like my options are basically to get a spec like yours in a 22 or get a 23 like mine, possibly the 23 will also have less mileage. I’m leaning to 23 since CarPlay, lumbar etc are standard now also.
    any regrets?



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Using the granny charger last night for the first time in a while.

    It would only charge at 6a. Is this normal? I never took notice before but this notices the time of completion seemed later.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,395 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    I've only ever used the granny charger in one location (via an outdoor socket at my parents house) and I've seen similar performance.

    My guess is that it's down to load on the circuit for that particular socket at that time - It does tend to wildly overestimate the time it will take to charge though - Saying 10/11 hours for a full charge when it's first plugged in but ultimately completing the charge in 6/7 hrs



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    cool. Once I know nothings wrong then I’m ok with that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    Zero regrets. The only thing i need to mind are the 20" wheels and kerbing/damaging them going into multi storey car parks.

    I agree on comfort access i don't use it, you can switch it off. But the heated steering wheel, comfort seats and electric bootlid are brilliant.

    Having lived with tech pack, comfort pack and sport+ packs i wouldn't buy another BMW without them - plus sunroof. The options make all the difference IMO and once you get used to them it'd be hard to step backwards.

    Love my 530e, absolutely love it.



  • Subscribers Posts: 16,602 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    I have the 20s on my current one and they aren’t worth it for the looks. I’ve looked at a couple of decent spec examples and the better spec’d ones are very overpriced for nice to haves imo. I’d like the seats and the heated wheel (I’ve always had tourings so electric boot standard) but I’ve not paying the cost of going a year newer with lower mileage for them. I guess the rarity of the better spec’d ones means they are trying to hold out for the right buyer. There is a bit of a shocking range of prices out there for them also.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭rabbitinlights


    you can change the setting in the car to increase the charging rate for granny chargers - 10amp is safe enough on a modern house.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo



    I used the bmw granny cable on a Tesla today and it immediately charged at 10a. So the bmw must be set to lower for some reason. I’ll check it tomorrow.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Sorted. Car was set to low charging setting in the iDrive. Changed it to max and now plugging away at 10a.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭islander222


    Hello All, I stumbled across this great thread while researching my next car move (much appreciated information). I have a 2017 A6 diesel and want to move up a few years and really want to get into a 5 series. I really liked what I watched and read about the 530e reviews and after taking a test drive in a 2020 pre-facelift 530e it really solidified the desire to get into the hybrid.

    I'm pretty sure my use case supports going for a 530e as 1) I have solar at the house 2) I commute 45km each way to work twice per week with the ability to charge for free at work 3) the remainder of my drives are local and short (maybe 5-30km per day) 4) about 10-12 long trips on up and down the country ~300km each way per year 5) between 18-20k km per year.

    I think I prefer the 530e over the 520d (and its the 202 or 211 LCI facelift I am looking at) but my concern is the future resale value and depreciation and maybe even the battery health of the 530e - I would be buying a 3/3.5 year old hybrid with the plan of keeping it for 5-6 years… A lot of what I thought I read in this thread suggest vast majority are owning a relatively new car and moving on before warranty ends or extending warranty… I'm concerned about been left with a car I can't shift in 6 years time or a hybrid with any range left…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭GPoint


    buy a jap import 530e with tiny mileage and you should have less chances of hybrid going wrong during your years of ownership



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