Upgrade or New Build?

CrankyHaus

I built a system a couple of years ago for playing older games and watching video. Thanks to everyone on this forum for your advice at that time.


After some small upgrades the system is:


Mobo : Asus H110-M K
CPU: Intel Pentium Dual Core G4400 3.3 GHZ
GPU : AMD Radeon HD 7870
RAM : 2 x 4 GB DDR4
Case: Thermaltake Versa H23 Midi Mesh Tower
Storage : 128 GB SSD, 2 1-1.5 Tb HDDs.
PSU: EVGA Supernova 650 G+
Optical Drive: LG DVD RW from an old system
Monitor: HD Projector accessed via AV Receiver.


I have recently started playing more recent games, such as GTA V, and find the gameplay choppy. Therefore I wish to upgrade.


Could anyone recommend a CPU and/or GPU that would fit my current system to make it better able to support newer games? I'd be willing to spend €200 - €400 cumulatively on a solution.


Alternatively should I get a new Mobo and incorporate my current components onto it, with upgraded CPU and GPU? From a quick look on here it seems that AMD Ryzen is very much the current leader in affordable gaming CPUs.



Thanks in advance for all responses.

Edit: In addition I've had serious trouble getting bluetooth keyboards to work consistently. Currently have a Microsoft wedge and the connection is constantly laggy or drops. As I use this PC from a sofa a handheld keyboard is desirable. Are there any good wireless solutions or should I get a handheld wired controller instead? (The PC is adjacent to the sofa so the wired solution is not such a handicap)

K.O.Kiki

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (£119.00 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£59.99 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£62.72 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 570 4 GB NITRO+ Video Card (£128.16 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £369.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-09 12:32 BST+0100

Not the best motherboard but it should be OK with minor overclock.

For keyboard, I'd get a non-Bluetooth solution, e.g. Logitech's range.

CrankyHaus

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (£119.00 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£59.99 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£62.72 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 570 4 GB NITRO+ Video Card (£128.16 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £369.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-09 12:32 BST+0100

Not the best motherboard but it should be OK with minor overclock.

For keyboard, I'd get a non-Bluetooth solution, e.g. Logitech's range.

Cheers! So I take it that upgrades on the existing motherboard are non-economical vs upgrading to Ryzen?


If I wanted to be able to further upgrade in say 5 years time would I be better spending more on the motherboard? Assuming I was willing to go up to €450 would you have any recomendations?

K.O.Kiki

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (£119.00 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard (£79.99 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£69.04 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3 GB GAMING Video Card (£144.66 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £412.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-09 13:09 BST+0100

Motherboard upgrade, faster RAM, and a GTX 1060 3Gb (that GPU is faster in GTAV than RX 570 4Gb).

Just double-check that whatever GPU you buy has necessary output for your projector.

Shlippery

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-radeon-rx-570-strix-oc-4096mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-415-as.html#free_items - can save another tenner on the card here if going RX570, OCUK also decent & includes the 3 free months of game pass as well (brilliant service for dabbling in a few new games)

I'm pretty sure the AM4 motherboard should be sound for the few years, depends on how much you want to do with it. I'm no motherboard expert but it should handle a new gpu / more DD4 ram and whatever the last Ryzen chip it will take when the time comes. I think you can spend a bit more on it if you want but not sure you'd notice much difference. Again, massively open to corrections there as I've not tried to do anything fancy with my own.

Disregard all the above, had started writing it before the last post!

K.O.Kiki

Oh right, misread that as 2x4Gb DDR3.

There's enough in the kitty to upgrade massively to a GTX 1660 so.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (£119.00 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard (£79.99 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Crucial 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (Purchased For £0.00)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB XC GAMING Video Card (£209.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £408.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-09 15:09 BST+0100