Is this the end of Democrat front runner Joe Biden?

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Biker79 wrote: »

Rampant TDS on this thread

I've made a rational assessment of Trump's abilities which stand up fairly well to scrutiny.

Some of you come off like hormonal teenagers. Which supports my suspicion that leftiness is more like a mental disorder than anything else.

Lol

You're level of debate is on a par with his. Maybe Hannity will give you a sit down interview.

Doctor Jimbob

Biker79 wrote: »

Rampant TDS on this thread

I've made a rational assessment of Trump's abilities which stand up fairly well to scrutiny.

Some of you come off like hormonal teenagers. Which supports my suspicion that leftiness is more like a mental disorder than anything else.

You brushed off Trump's behaviour as trolling the media when it's blantantly obvious he's just not very bright.

For what it's worth I don't think the man is senile. He's just an idiot.

Timberrrrrrrr

Biker79 wrote: »

Wonderful.

Why not burn some books and tear down some statues, while you're at it.

To correct a few more truths.

No thanks, I.love art and literature.

Timberrrrrrrr

Biker79 wrote: »

Rampant TDS on this thread

I've made a rational assessment of Trump's abilities which stand up fairly well to scrutiny.

Some of you come off like hormonal teenagers. Which supports my suspicion that leftiness is more like a mental disorder than anything else.

we have to get to the oranges of this

Windmills give you cancer.

The UK has nukes?

Is Greenland for sale?

Convefe.

Just a tiny sample of his mental decline.

jamule

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

we have to get to the oranges of this

Windmills give you cancer.

The UK has nukes?

Is Greenland for sale?

Convefe.

Just a tiny sample of his mental decline.

tbe airports in 1770s is personel highlight

Igotadose

Don't forget there've been actual people that know something about cognition that have been raising flags about Trump throughout his administration. Doctors. Mental health specialists. There's been a more recent petition stating he's losing it. Here's one of the earlier articles.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/11/trump-physical-health-neurological-psychologists-psychiatrists-337389

Here is a description of the impacts of Trump's cognitive failings on his coronavirus response:
https://www.dcreport.org/2020/03/02/trumps-mental-impairment-were-now-in-the-middle-of-the-worst-case-scenario/



A recent petition for him to submit to an exam and for the Cabinet to invoke the 25th amendment:

https://sign.moveon.org/petitions/evaluate-trumps-mental-health

An analysis from the doctor in the petition:
https://www.salon.com/2020/05/15/yale-psychiatrist-trump-projects-his-sense-of-inferiority-by-calling-women-reporters-nasty/

pjohnson

Biker79 wrote: »

Rampant TDS on this thread

I've made a rational assessment of Trump's abilities which stand up fairly well to scrutiny.

Some of you come off like hormonal teenagers. Which supports my suspicion that leftiness is more like a mental disorder than anything else.

Yes.


Everyone else is wrong but me lalalala

Biker79

Igotadose wrote: »

Don't forget there've been actual people that know something about cognition that have been raising flags about Trump throughout his administration. Doctors. Mental health specialists. There's been a more recent petition stating he's losing it. Here's one of the earlier articles.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/11/trump-physical-health-neurological-psychologists-psychiatrists-337389

Here is a description of the impacts of Trump's cognitive failings on his coronavirus response:
https://www.dcreport.org/2020/03/02/trumps-mental-impairment-were-now-in-the-middle-of-the-worst-case-scenario/
A recent petition for him to submit to an exam and for the Cabinet to invoke the 25th amendment:

https://sign.moveon.org/petitions/evaluate-trumps-mental-health

An analysis from the doctor in the petition:
https://www.salon.com/2020/05/15/yale-psychiatrist-trump-projects-his-sense-of-inferiority-by-calling-women-reporters-nasty/

All of that reads like leftie propaganda/ pre-election character attack.

If there are any credible sources, by all means share them.

ohnonotgmail

Biker79 wrote: »

All of that reads like leftie propaganda/ a pre-election character attack.

If there are any credible sources, by all means share them.

a professor of psychiatry at Yale University isn't a credible source? Perhaps you would prefer someone from Trump University?

Biker79

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

a professor of psychiatry at Yale University isn't a credible source? Perhaps you would prefer someone from Trump University?

Correct. She was offended by his naming of COVID-19 as ' China Virus/ Wuhan Flu '

As a result, she suffered a bout of Trump Derangement Syndrome and lost her professional bearings.

Can happen to any thin-skinned leftie.

ohnonotgmail

Biker79 wrote: »

Correct. She was offended by his naming of COVID-19 as ' China Virus/ Wuhan Flu '

As a result, she suffered a bout of Trump Derangement Syndrome and lost her professional bearings.

Can happen to any thin-skinned leftie.

LOL. She made her analysis before covid was heard of. i bet you trump supporters cant even lie straight in bed.

Doctor Jimbob

Biker79 wrote: »

Correct. She was offended by his naming of COVID-19 as ' China Virus/ Wuhan Flu '

As a result, she suffered a bout of Trump Derangement Syndrome and lost her professional bearings.

Can happen to any thin-skinned leftie.

I do enjoy when Trump fans call other people thin skinned. It really shows up the lack of awareness.

Quin_Dub

Biker79 wrote: »

All of that reads like leftie propaganda/ pre-election character attack.

If there are any credible sources, by all means share them.

And all the stuff about Biden is???????

For the record - I don't think either of them are suffering from Cognitive decline.

Biden is a bit of a duffer, speech wise and always has been and Trump just isn't very bright and lacks any kind of intellectual curiosity meaning that he simply doesn't retain any information that isn't about him.

He also has that "gift" that a certain type of Salesman has , which is the ability to ramble on incessantly making it sound like he has a lot to say when in fact he is saying nothing at all.

Biker79

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Biden is a bit of a duffer, speech wise and always has been and Trump just isn't very bright and lacks any kind of intellectual curiosity meaning that he simply doesn't retain any information that isn't about him.

He also has that "gift" that a certain type of Salesman has , which is the ability to ramble on incessantly making it sound like he has a lot to say when in fact he is saying nothing at all.

Maybe. Of the two though..Biden seems poised at going completely doolally.

I agree about Trump. He's not that intellectually curious, but he is sharp. His intellect is more ' street ' than cerebral. Just what you would expect from a sales guy who thinks on his feet.

Nixon/ Regan & Bush were not cerebral either. You can't say one is better than the other, it's just a different style.

Straight talking can really have value when it transpires that more cerebral & polished leaders like Obama and Clinton are just as capable ( if not more so) of poor character. I'm thinking of Obama's escalation of drone strikes and its impact on civilians in Pakistan/ Afghanistan and Clintons indifference to the Rwandan genocide ( We'll let him off the hook for Monica ).

Trump has always been mindful of not killing anyone.

Quin_Dub

Biker79 wrote: »

Maybe. Of the two though..Biden seems poised at going completely doolally.

I agree about Trump. He's not that intellectually curious, but he is sharp. His intellect is more ' street ' than cerebral. Just what you would expect from a sales guy who thinks on his feet.

Nixon/ Regan & Bush were not cerebral either. You can't say one is better than the other, it's just a different style.

Straight talking can really have value when it transpires that more cerebral & polished leaders like Obama and Clinton are just as capable ( if not more so) of poor character. I'm thinking of Obama's escalation of drone strikes and its impact on civilians in Pakistan/ Afghanistan and Clintons indifference to the Rwandan genocide ( We'll let him off the hook for Monica ).

Trump has always been mindful of not killing anyone.

Absolutely untrue

Under Donald Trump, drone strikes far exceed Obama’s numbers

All that he did was stop reporting it.

President Donald Trump has revoked a policy set by his predecessor requiring US intelligence officials to publish the number of civilians killed in drone strikes outside of war zones.

The 2016 executive order was brought in by then-President Barack Obama, who was under pressure to be more transparent.

Since the 9/11 terror attack, drone strikes have been increasingly used against terror and military targets.

The Trump administration said the rule was "superfluous" and distracting.

The order applied to the CIA, which has carried out drone strikes in countries such as Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Somalia.

"This action eliminates superfluous reporting requirements, requirements that do not improve government transparency, but rather distract our intelligence professionals from their primary mission," an official said.

What was the rule?
It required the head of the CIA to release annual summaries of US drone strikes and assess how many died as a result.

Mr Trump's executive order does not overturn reporting requirements on civilian deaths set for the military by Congress.

There have been 2,243 drone strikes in the first two years of the Trump presidency, compared with 1,878 in Mr Obama's eight years in office, according to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism, a UK-based think tank.

So about 25% MORE drone strikes in 2 years than Obama had in 8 Years.

That report is from a year ago , so even if he completely stopped Drone strikes at the number reported above , he'd have over 2X the rate of drone strikes compared to Obama.

Of course he hasn't stopped them so he's probably now running at a rate 3 or 4 times that of Obama..

Timberrrrrrrr

Biker79 wrote: »

Maybe. Of the two though..Biden seems poised at going completely doolally.

I agree about Trump. He's not that intellectually curious, but he is sharp. His intellect is more ' street ' than cerebral. Just what you would expect from a sales guy who thinks on his feet.

Nixon/ Regan & Bush were not cerebral either. You can't say one is better than the other, it's just a different style.

Straight talking can really have value when it transpires that more cerebral & polished leaders like Obama and Clinton are just as capable ( if not more so) of poor character. I'm thinking of Obama's escalation of drone strikes and its impact on civilians in Pakistan/ Afghanistan and Clintons indifference to the Rwandan genocide ( We'll let him off the hook for Monica ).

Trump has always been mindful of not killing anyone.

You do know that drone strikes increased when Trump took over right?

Biker79

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Absolutely untrue

Under Donald Trump, drone strikes far exceed Obama’s numbers

All that he did was stop reporting it.


So about 25% MORE drone strikes in 2 years than Obama had in 8 Years.

That report is from a year ago , so even if he completely stopped Drone strikes at the number reported above , he'd have over 2X the rate of drone strikes compared to Obama.

Of course he hasn't stopped them so he's probably now running at a rate 3 or 4 times that of Obama..

More lies, damn lies and statistics from hard left / pro-Obama news outlets.

Please show me the raw data and I'll calculate my own stats, thanks. Otherwise, its just leftie propaganda banking on the average readers limited understanding of statistical method.

Next, you'll be claiming 80% of people can lose weight with this simple trick..

Quin_Dub

Biker79 wrote: »

More lies, damn lies and statistics from hard left / pro-Obama news outlets.

Please show me the raw data and I'll calculate my own stats, thanks. Otherwise, its just leftie propaganda banking on the average readers limited understanding of statistical method.

Next, you'll be claiming 80% of people can lose weight with this simple trick..

We can't, because Trump removed the rule requiring his administration to report on Drone Strikes..I wonder why he did that?

This will be the last time I bother replying to you though as your cognitive dissonance is staggering.

Every time someone shows you evidence to refute a statement you make , you simply claim that it's "leftie propaganda" and deny it's accuracy.

ohnonotgmail

Quin_Dub wrote: »

We can't, because Trump removed the rule requiring his administration to report on Drone Strikes..I wonder why he did that?

This will be the last time I bother replying to you though as your cognitive dissonance is staggering.

Every time someone shows you evidence to refute a statement you make , you simply claim that it's "leftie propaganda" and deny it's accuracy.

remind you of anybody? seems to be a trait of trump supporters.

Biker79

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Every time someone shows you evidence to refute a statement you make , you simply claim that it's "leftie propaganda" and deny it's accuracy.

Show me solid evidence, not media stats (clickbait rubbish) and I'll reconsider.

Tokyo

Biker79 wrote: »

More lies, damn lies and statistics from hard left / pro-Obama news outlets.

Please show me the raw data and I'll calculate my own stats, thanks. Otherwise, its just leftie propaganda banking on the average readers limited understanding of statistical method.

Mod: The poster has made a more than reasonable attempt to answer your question. I'm finding it hard to see how you are arguing in good faith here. Take 24 hours away from the thread to reconsider your next approach.

ILoveYourVibes

Trump recently tweeted a video of a man screaming white power over and over.

He thanked 'the great people' in the video that is NOT leftist propaganda. It is also not leftist propaganda that this would be the second time he praised white supremacists within his term in office.


https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/28/politics/trump-tweet-supporters-man-chants-white-power/index.html

Whatever Biden is or is not ....if you are not a white supremacist and you are eligible to vote in Nov you are voting Biden.

If you are defending Trump now. At this stage....something is deeply deeply wrong with you.

Akesh

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Trump recently tweeted a video of a man screaming white power over and over.

He thanked 'the great people' in the video that is NOT leftist propaganda. It is also not leftist propaganda that this would be the second time he praised white supremacists within his term in office.


https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/28/politics/trump-tweet-supporters-man-chants-white-power/index.html

Whatever Biden is or is not ....if you are not a white supremacist and you are eligible to vote in Nov you are voting Biden.

If you are defending Trump now. At this stage....something is deeply deeply wrong with you.

I think you're severely overestimating the impact of one issue on a country of 330M people. It's not a one issue election and you can't expect an entire country to follow your logic on how you feel people should vote based on a tweet. Particularly, when he has faced so many allegations and attacks to date.

I feel the Coronavirus has left Trump with a huge mountain to climb but Biden is probably the worst opposition candidate possible so I think a lot of people will have difficulty in supporting Biden when A) He's not offering any real change and He is clearly suffering from an impairment.

KiKi III

Biker79 wrote: »

Correct. She was offended by his naming of COVID-19 as ' China Virus/ Wuhan Flu '

As a result, she suffered a bout of Trump Derangement Syndrome and lost her professional bearings.

Can happen to any thin-skinned leftie.

What would you consider an unbiased source?

Kinda seems like you only want to believe sources that agree with your pre-stated position.

That’s called confirmation bias.

Igotadose

Akesh wrote: »

I think you're severely overestimating the impact of one issue on a country of 330M people. It's not a one issue election and you can't expect an entire country to follow your logic on how you feel people should vote based on a tweet. Particularly, when he has faced so many allegations and attacks to date.

I feel the Coronavirus has left Trump with a huge mountain to climb but Biden is probably the worst opposition candidate possible so I think a lot of people will have difficulty in supporting Biden when A) He's not offering any real change and He is clearly suffering from an impairment.

18 posts. Uhuh.

Here's 'real change.' He's not Trump. Trump's idea of 'change' was
personal aggrandizement, resulting in the worst economy in our lifetimes in the US.

I've noted various sources on Trump's impairments above. Clearly you have same for Biden. Please supply them? All I've seen have been edited videos.

BTW, the Yale Dr. I quote above is one of many. There are more.

threeball

Akesh wrote: »

I think you're severely overestimating the impact of one issue on a country of 330M people. It's not a one issue election and you can't expect an entire country to follow your logic on how you feel people should vote based on a tweet. Particularly, when he has faced so many allegations and attacks to date.

I feel the Coronavirus has left Trump with a huge mountain to climb but Biden is probably the worst opposition candidate possible so I think a lot of people will have difficulty in supporting Biden when A) He's not offering any real change and He is clearly suffering from an impairment.

That mountain is more akin to a sand dune now with every footstep disappearing below him as the Covid cases and deaths rocket upwards over the month of July. Any impairment Biden has is dwarfed by the mental impediments that Trump is displaying not to mention his physical ones (drinking a glass of water and walking down a ramp)

Overheal

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Trump recently tweeted a video of a man screaming white power over and over.

He thanked 'the great people' in the video that is NOT leftist propaganda. It is also not leftist propaganda that this would be the second time he praised white supremacists within his term in office.


https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/28/politics/trump-tweet-supporters-man-chants-white-power/index.html

Whatever Biden is or is not ....if you are not a white supremacist and you are eligible to vote in Nov you are voting Biden.

If you are defending Trump now. At this stage....something is deeply deeply wrong with you.

Republican senators had to get on CNN etc yesterday morning to tell him to take it down. It was embarrassing.

Quin_Dub

Trumps biggest problem in terms of the election/campaign is that he has struggled to actually get people to really even think about Biden yet.

He managed to make 2016 a referendum on Hilary Clinton and "The Washington Elite" with him in the outsider role. He does not have that now.

So far it's basically a Trump referendum and not a Trump vs. Biden discussion.

If he cannot change that he is utterly toast.

If he can shift the narrative and land a few punches his chances might improve a bit , but even then it might not be enough.

Time is seriously running out for him - The earliest voting starts about 6 or 7 weeks out , so people will be casting votes for President as early as mid September.

Akesh

Igotadose wrote: »

18 posts. Uhuh.

Here's 'real change.' He's not Trump. Trump's idea of 'change' was
personal aggrandizement, resulting in the worst economy in our lifetimes in the US.

I've noted various sources on Trump's impairments above. Clearly you have same for Biden. Please supply them? All I've seen have been edited videos.

BTW, the Yale Dr. I quote above is one of many. There are more.

Why are you putting words in my mouth? Why are you arguing against things that I didn't say? You seem very angry over an assumption you have made about me. Do you realise how daft that is?

I don't support Trump or Biden, the Dems or the GOP.

If you want to believe that Joe Biden isn't impaired then that's fine but I don't really have any intention of debating with someone who is so entrenched that they are arguing against things I didn't even say. There are clear videos out there that prove otherwise. Neither man in this election is fit to lead a country but I suspect you have no interest in reality, logic or reason based on that outlandish response to another post.

Also those aren't references in your post. You should look up the definition of the word 'proof'.

notobtuse

I wonder if Biden can hide away all the way through the election?