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Gang attack Garda in Drogheda

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    Why would someone who has finished school and has a career as a full time legend be interested in going to a back to school party with 13 years olds?


  • Registered Users Posts: 83,514 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Yeah they carry knives instead of rocks

    They’re throwing knives at patrol cars now?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Overheal wrote: »
    They’re throwing knives at patrol cars now?

    Yeah, great gag, hope it gets a few likes for ya.

    The joke is over for this kid, knifed to death in Dundrum a few months ago by a gang of black youths. Gangsta culture if you will.
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/garda%25C3%25AD-identify-suspect-for-fatal-stabbing-of-teen-in-dundrum-1.3889865%3Fmode%3Damp&ved=2ahUKEwjCipHAxP3jAhUzrXEKHcgHDMIQFjAQegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw2VTTAEOxfl_27uvqIgD2T6&ampcf=1


  • Registered Users Posts: 83,514 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    enricoh wrote: »
    So stabbings are a new phenomenon for Ireland?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    Overheal wrote: »
    So stabbings are a new phenomenon for Ireland?


    A few weeks ago there was a video of a fella after having his face sliced open in a row. It got a mention in the gang thread but that's it. If it had been a black fella who sliced him they'd be falling over themselves to create a thread about the fall of society.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 926 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    MrFresh wrote: »
    A few weeks ago there was a video of a fella after having his face sliced open in a row. It got a mention in the gang thread but that's it. If it had been a black fella who sliced him they'd be falling over themselves to create a thread about the fall of society.

    They're coming into our country taking our stabbings!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,000 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Overheal wrote: »
    So stabbings are a new phenomenon for Ireland?

    So because Ireland already had some white native scum it's perfectly acceptable to also have some more black scum? In the name of diversity and all that...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    Overheal wrote: »
    So stabbings are a new phenomenon for Ireland?

    I’m not sure of the sense of this argument. After all we have a choice in our immigration system but no choice about our natives.

    Also the fact that a country once had or has a “bad thing” doesn’t justify the importation of more of the “bad thing”.

    If your job was to be a police a festival that had some violence on day 1, and you let in more violent offenders on day 2 the fact that the festival always had violence isn’t an appropriate excuse for your laxity on day 2.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Overheal wrote: »
    So stabbings are a new phenomenon for Ireland?

    A new phenomenon, nah, never said that.
    Bit of an issue over in London at the mo, with black gangs and knives.
    Cops were told to back off searching black youths over cries of racism, so they did, guess what- stabbings increased.
    Coming to Ireland, its in the post

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/london-murder-crime-rate-stabbings-met-police-statistics-a8631606.html%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwiX_8LGy_3jAhWcURUIHcjmA3YQFjAPegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw30Lyci-BEzOk_Nhslb62kk&ampcf=1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Trouble broke out after large numbers of teens descended on the pub for what was claimed to be an 18th birthday party.

    Things turned violent inside the venue before spilling onto the street outside around 9.30pm


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/five-arrested-and-garda-viciously-assaulted-after-public-order-incident-at-drogheda-pub-38392037.html



    It seems your children can spin you any old **** and you'll believe them and then come on here defending a 13 year old being in a pub on a Friday night. It's your responsibility as a parent to know where they are. A quick glance in the Internet would have told you if an under 18 event was happening there or not, but maybe it was too much bother for you to check?


    Did your children not leave when trouble kicked off inside?

    Look his kids are little angles that don't lie.:D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Children are little bolloxes. That's all we know

    Yes they are. They lie and lie and lie. They That’s why you’ve got to be a total prick and be like Columbo about everything, a total pain in the hole.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,000 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Look his kids are little angles that don't lie.:D

    Very acute angles if I may say.
    I'll grab my coat.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    MrFresh wrote: »
    Overheal wrote: »
    So stabbings are a new phenomenon for Ireland?


    A few weeks ago there was a video of a fella after having his face sliced open in a row. It got a mention in the gang thread but that's it. If it had been a black fella who sliced him they'd be falling over themselves to create a thread about the fall of society.

    Well in this country it's unusual for black people to make headlines and attack people.

    So when something unusual happens, it's not unusual for it to be a big deal....


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,056 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Footage appearing online of a Gang of youths consisting of mainly 'New Irish' violently attacking Garda in Drogheda. The footage of the riot was shared on social media, which showed groups of young men kicking the Guard in the head whilst lying on the ground.

    Text accompanying the footage included phrases such as
    "good enough for em f*cking pigs"
    "they done skinny bop on the pigs head"
    "love to see it"
    "grabbing niggas for fun"

    https://www.facebook.com/TheLiberal.ie/videos/1138767152988287/

    https://www.facebook.com/TheLiberal.ie/videos/385784742136971/

    user named after sex offender
    Low post count
    Racist tone

    feck off


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,056 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    MrFresh wrote: »
    A few weeks ago there was a video of a fella after having his face sliced open in a row. It got a mention in the gang thread but that's it. If it had been a black fella who sliced him they'd be falling over themselves to create a thread about the fall of society.

    "old irish"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭leestone


    This is the problem with “new Irish” playing the victim card. That fool
    Mojo or mayo whatever his name was arrested for a reason cause he probably was up to know good.

    But all his fellow Balbriggan buddies are demanding “justice” haha

    People here stating that white teens do this need to get real when was the last time you heard over a provincial town been overrun with teens carrying weapons and rioting ? This was a riot by the number of people involved.

    Only now are we talking in this country about minimum sentencing etc.

    If people present at the scene had body cams we wouldn’t be getting the sob stories


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    I’m not sure of the sense of this argument. After all we have a choice in our immigration system but no choice about our natives.

    Also the fact that a country once had or has a “bad thing” doesn’t justify the importation of more of the “bad thing”.

    If your job was to be a police a festival that had some violence on day 1, and you let in more violent offenders on day 2 the fact that the festival always had violence isn’t an appropriate excuse for your laxity on day 2.
    The open-border types use this argument all the time.
    It's like: "Well, since the natives are involved in criminality, what's the harm if the new Irish are doing a few stabbings, muggings, running riot on the Dart etc."
    Very odd argument.

    You should also note the correlation between the open-border types and the amount of taxes that they pay and how much they contribute to Irish society. Liberal Left philosophers/students etc. are not known to get up early in the morning in order to pay the taxes required for the enormous resources poured into supporting non-EU economic migrants.

    You will find though that as soon as they start paying sizeable income tax, the highest mortgage rates in Europe, and high health insurance costs; it's then that they realise that it is not fair for non-EU migrants to arrive in Ireland and receive free homes and welfare for life in a very short period of time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    leestone wrote: »
    This is the problem with “new Irish” playing the victim card. That fool
    Mojo or mayo whatever his name was arrested for a reason cause he probably was up to know good.

    But all his fellow Balbriggan buddies are demanding “justice” haha

    People here stating that white teens do this need to get real when was the last time you heard over a provincial town been overrun with teens carrying weapons and rioting ? This was a riot by the number of people involved.

    Only now are we talking in this country about minimum sentencing etc.

    If people present at the scene had body cams we wouldn’t be getting the sob stories

    He seems to be from dundalk. It must be an East Coast gang.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,844 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    enricoh wrote: »

    For the most part the trouble and gangs are confined to working-class areas.

    Unless it becomes a significant problem in leafy suburbia it will not register as a problem for the modern Left or progressive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭leestone


    Is their not any old republican heads up there that would get sick at seeing the new Irish destroy our values and society by rioting in the street and assaulting Garda members?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭Granadino


    Gardai need tasers. Simple as. Did anyone see the video of the MET police officer getting sliced in London last week. Lucky he had a taser or he'd be dead.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Granadino wrote: »
    Gardai need tasers. Simple as. Did anyone see the video of the MET police officer getting sliced in London last week. Lucky he had a taser or he'd be dead.

    But ,but wait what about Garda brutality against minorities


  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭Granadino


    Gatling wrote: »
    But ,but wait what about Garda brutality against minorities

    Maybe there are some ex provos who would put manners on them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,056 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Granadino wrote: »
    Maybe there are some ex provos who would put manners on them.

    Ffs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭leestone


    Alright everyone let’s talk solutions here

    To solve this from happening again what should be done changed etc

    I’ll start the ball rolling,
    Minimum sentences to be served set by the judge and new legislation that an assault on a emergency worker results in a minimum of 5 years jail on conviction, serious assault 20 years and capital murder while life tariff


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,056 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    leestone wrote: »
    Alright everyone let’s talk solutions here

    To solve this from happening again what should be done changed etc

    I’ll start the ball rolling,
    Minimum sentences to be served set by the judge and new legislation that an assault on a emergency worker results in a minimum of 5 years jail on conviction, serious assault 20 years and capital murder while life tariff

    Seems fair enough


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭LuasSimon


    leestone wrote: »
    Alright everyone let’s talk solutions here

    To solve this from happening again what should be done changed etc

    I’ll start the ball rolling,
    Minimum sentences to be served set by the judge and new legislation that an assault on a emergency worker results in a minimum of 5 years jail on conviction, serious assault 20 years and capital murder while life tariff

    There’s minimum sentences of 10 years for selling drugs but hardly ever used ... judges live in mansions so don’t realize or care about crime .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    leestone wrote: »
    Alright everyone let’s talk solutions here

    To solve this from happening again what should be done changed etc

    I’ll start the ball rolling,
    Minimum sentences to be served set by the judge and new legislation that an assault on a emergency worker results in a minimum of 5 years jail on conviction, serious assault 20 years and capital murder while life tariff


    You'll find there's too much distrust and animosity towards Gardaí for full support of this following many years of using them as a handy sacrificial lamb for any politician who needed a cause or a distraction. Judges would be unlikely to get on board either. It probably wouldn't even act as a deterrent either as the people who generally assault Gardaí are either committing serious crime already or not thinking rationally.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Leave it as it is. When things get bad enough they generally have a way of sorting themselves out.

    http://johnbruton.com/immigration-from-africa-is-inevitable/

    You ain't seen nothing yet though.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭El_Bee


    Granadino wrote: »
    Gardai need tasers. Simple as. Did anyone see the video of the MET police officer getting sliced in London last week. Lucky he had a taser or he'd be dead.


    We don't need the gestapo on the streets, Gardai are too heavy handed as it is sure a few weeks ago one of them tackled a young boy off a scrambler and put his arms behind his back, he was only a kid it was a disgusting display.


    leestone wrote: »
    Alright everyone let’s talk solutions here

    To solve this from happening again what should be done changed etc

    I’ll start the ball rolling,
    Minimum sentences to be served set by the judge and new legislation that an assault on a emergency worker results in a minimum of 5 years jail on conviction, serious assault 20 years and capital murder while life tariff


    They tried tough sentences in the States and look how bad things are over there, people are too keen on draconian solutions but no one wants to try actually listening to these youths and seeing things from their perspective.


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