Farming Chitchat 10/10- Now VIRUS-FREE!

_Brian

Base price wrote: »

Agricultural deal agreed between FF, FG and the Greens -

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/exclusive-deal-agreed-on-agriculture-in-government-talks-551824

What’s the jist ??
No subscription here.

_Brian

TheFarrier wrote: »

How long does it take after spraying for roundup or grazon to be safe from rain??

Edit to say knapsack spraying

Quick, quicker than you’d think.

We were wiping rushes in a meadow few years ago and it started light rain. Kept going out of stubbornness and the last section, about a quarter of the meadow you wouldn’t notice it was done in the rain.

In this weather I’d say if it got 15-20 minutes it would be grand.

Lime Tree Farm

TheFarrier wrote: »

How long does it take after spraying for roundup or grazon to be safe from rain??

Edit to say knapsack spraying

A period without rain of at least 6 hours, and preferably. 24 hours, must follow application of Roundup Pro Biactive herbicide. Do not spray in windy conditions....

and 24 hours rain free for Grazon, (I know this for a fact, as I got caught out by not reading the label)

Base price

_Brian wrote: »

What’s the jist ??
No subscription here.

Sorry, it didn't state it was subscription only.
"The deal agreed by the three parties will see the introduction of a new flagship environmental scheme, a food ombudsman, a new agricultural appeals review panel as well as government supports for on-farm renewable energy such as solar and small-scale wind"

Buford T. Justice XIX

_Brian wrote: »

What’s the jist ??
No subscription here.

The gist of it, should be on Agriland or some such soon enough.

The deal agreed by the three parties will see the introduction of a new flagship environmental scheme, a food ombudsman, a new agricultural appeals review panel as well as government supports for on-farm renewable energy such as solar and small-scale wind.

Base price

Here is a link from Agriland - free to read
https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/programme-for-government-agriculture-agreement-finalised/

Reckon I'll wait for the details myself before being "pleased" or "pleasantly surprised" with any agriculture related schemes under a new government.

patsy_mccabe

whelan2 wrote: »

Was saying it to my dad about the fox gloves, he was shocked.we have agood few on our outfarm and never thought of them eating them

Spotted this a while ago.

whelan2

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Spotted this a while ago.

We used to pop the flowers on the fox glove, my dad said they used to suck the honey out of them :eek:

ganmo

Base price wrote: »

Here is a link from Agriland - free to read
https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/programme-for-government-agriculture-agreement-finalised/

I reckon the reps need is being rolled out as marketing
The power generation aspect will need to have a method for paying the generator for energy supplied to the grid.
The food ombusman will need someone strong because they'll be getting it from all sides

Buford T. Justice XIX

9 dairy cows killed by lightening strikes in west Clare today.
Lightning strike kills nine cows in Clare
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/lightning-strike-kills-nine-cows-in-clare-1005236.html?utm_source=androidapp&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=sharebutton

Say my name

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

9 dairy cows killed by lightening strikes in west Clare today.
Lightning strike kills nine cows in Clare
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/lightning-strike-kills-nine-cows-in-clare-1005236.html?utm_source=androidapp&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=sharebutton

Fecker..

And they were all spread out fairly well.

I lost a foal one time to a lightning strike in the middle of a field. Thankfully none of the rest of the horses in the field were hit and insurance covered the loss of the foal.

The above reminds me of a clip of a soccer match in the rain. Lightning struck the wet pitch and there was a good few players got the shock up from the ground.


We're not done with this weather yet. It's to stay thundery up to Thursday it seems.

Base price

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

9 dairy cows killed by lightening strikes in west Clare today.
Lightning strike kills nine cows in Clare
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/lightning-strike-kills-nine-cows-in-clare-1005236.html?utm_source=androidapp&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=sharebutton

That would sicken me. It's bad enough loosing one to illness but 9 at one go is heartbreaking.

Buford T. Justice XIX

A lot of details emerging about farm policy. A national liming programme, an enlarged ASSAP, further supports for LESS, a survey of all hedgerows, a new REPS, some method of deferred profit taxation and encouraging dual purpose breeds in dairying, support for agroforestry or silvopasture and a change in farm assist are some of the more notable points.

The devil will be in the detail though.

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/programme-for-government-the-full-details-for-agriculture-revealed-551835

Water John

Say my name wrote: »

Fecker..

And they were all spread out fairly well.

I lost a foal one time to a lightning strike in the middle of a field. Thankfully none of the rest of the horses in the field were hit and insurance covered the loss of the foal.

The above reminds me of a clip of a soccer match in the rain. Lightning struck the wet pitch and there was a good few players got the shock up from the ground.


We're not done with this weather yet. It's to stay thundery up to Thursday it seems.

More your side of the country from Tuesday on.

That Programme looks quite detailed, Buford.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Water John wrote: »

More your side of the country from Tuesday on.

That Programme looks quite detailed, Buford.

Paper never refused ink, John. I'll wait to see the programme in action before I judge it. There's some good points coming out and some bad ones but funding levels will determine how effective any of it will be, i think.

Buford T. Justice VI

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

Paper never refused ink, John. I'll wait to see the programme in action before I judge it. There's some good points coming out and some bad ones but funding levels will determine how effective any of it will be, i think.

I believe I read some funding for this REPS2 will come from CAP and a raised Carbon Tax. I'd imagine if that's the case that's meaning everyones GLAS income plus the extra cost of the CT. The issue will be what flaming hoops of bull**** will be involved in REPS2, and what level of cost or income loss will be involved.

kollegeknight

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

9 dairy cows killed by lightening strikes in west Clare today.
Lightning strike kills nine cows in Clare
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/lightning-strike-kills-nine-cows-in-clare-1005236.html?utm_source=androidapp&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=sharebutton

The thunder and lightning last night was unbelievable in west Clare. The whole house was shook. 6” gap under the bed and dog climbed under and couldn’t get out.

I says

Normally if there’s any rain or whatever else going in the country we get it here.
Not a drop in the last week, the drought is getting worse here by the minute. The boss man, whose out a long time, said if we got no rain today we’ll get next to nothing for the week ahead. I’m strip grazing here, the grass is gone to seed.

longgonesilver

Taking money out of CAP to find a different scheme is not much use to farmers overall. Yes it might help whatever the aim of the scheme is but how much will disappear into the planners pockets.

Think you are being very hard on the foxgloves. Have lots here and never any problems. Cattle just don't eat them. Maybe you had a very curious neither but my guess would be blackleg. Was she vaccinated?

Millionaire only not

kollegeknight wrote: »

The thunder and lightning last night was unbelievable in west Clare. The whole house was shook. 6” gap under the bed and dog climbed under and couldn’t get out.

Them cows died from todays lightening , shook house here and were 7/8 miles from them cows that died

_Brian

Have to say this.

We took in rescue chickens from a free range operation.

The chickens are in rag order. In my stupidity I thought free range operations were better for chickens.

If cattle on farms were routinely in this condition it would be a national scandal.

Mortelaro

longgonesilver wrote: »

Taking money out of CAP to find a different scheme is not much use to farmers overall. Yes it might help whatever the aim of the scheme is but how much will disappear into the planners pockets.

Think you are being very hard on the foxgloves. Have lots here and never any problems. Cattle just don't eat them. Maybe you had a very curious neither but my guess would be blackleg. Was she vaccinated?

I have a copy of the FF FG Green 'agreement '
The Agriculture section is 14 pages
It's not the worst I've ever read but copper fastens environmental stuff that will bankrupt larger newly expanded or new entrant dairy farmers in my opinion unless supports to them are massively increased
There are 'sustainable ' ways of doing this but its complicated
Doing this alongside the UK importing all sorts of un regulated food in competition with our increasingly regulated and frankly uneconomic sphere and in the light of the rest of the world not doing this especially china and the U.S is wacky to say the least

Danzy

Mortelaro wrote: »

I have a copy of the FF FG Green 'agreement '
The Agriculture section is 14 pages
It's not the worst I've ever read but copper fastens environmental stuff that will bankrupt larger newly expanded or new entrant dairy farmers in my opinion unless supports to them are massively increased
There are 'sustainable ' ways of doing this but its complicated
Doing this alongside the UK importing all sorts of un regulated food in competition with our increasingly regulated and frankly uneconomic sphere and in the light of the rest of the world not doing this especially china and the U.S is wacky to say the least

What the Greens are proposing is going to be EU law within a decade anyway.

Kevhog1988

_Brian wrote: »

Have to say this.

We took in rescue chickens from a free range operation.

The chickens are in rag order. In my stupidity I thought free range operations were better for chickens.

If cattle on farms were routinely in this condition it would be a national scandal.

Only difference is they are housed together in a big shed. There are still thousands of them together and they are being pumped full of all sorts.... the difference between battery and free range is feck all tbh.

Base price

_Brian wrote: »

Have to say this.

We took in rescue chickens from a free range operation.

The chickens are in rag order. In my stupidity I thought free range operations were better for chickens.

If cattle on farms were routinely in this condition it would be a national scandal.

The term free range is not necessarily what most people think it is. Here is a link to DAFM for the terms/specs that are used for poultry.
https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/media/migration/farmingsectors/poultry/guidelinesforfreerangepoultryproducersandslaughterhouses72010.pdf

Buford T. Justice XIX

Mortelaro wrote: »

I have a copy of the FF FG Green 'agreement '
The Agriculture section is 14 pages
It's not the worst I've ever read but copper fastens environmental stuff that will bankrupt larger newly expanded or new entrant dairy farmers in my opinion unless supports to them are massively increased
There are 'sustainable ' ways of doing this but its complicated
Doing this alongside the UK importing all sorts of un regulated food in competition with our increasingly regulated and frankly uneconomic sphere and in the light of the rest of the world not doing this especially china and the U.S is wacky to say the least

If anybody wants to read it, link below, I hope.

https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/1592200502849CqIecFq

dmakc

Some of the uninformed tripe in the green wish list thread would amaze

dmakc

dmakc wrote: »

Some of the uninformed tripe in the green wish list thread would amaze

Where is that?

dmakc

Deleted User wrote: »

Where is that?

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058072593/130