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Farming Chitchat 10/10- Now VIRUS-FREE!

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    _Brian wrote: »
    Is that not a bit of scare mongering ??
    Is there evidence that there are plans to do anything with land that’s already in grass??


    I’ll be honest, I’m torn on this issue.

    I think there is much more to land than ploughing you everything, obliterating hedges and growing a monoculture of ryegrass pushed on by massive amounts of N, with every weed sprayed. We all see that approach and it’s destroying biodiversity and damaging groundwater quality.

    Equally the GP view often out forward that we can move to cereals everywhere demonstrates they don’t fully understand Irish land use either, and I’d include Pippa in that, I’m not sure she has a grasp of land use outside the golden vale.

    It’s funny to see such a resistance to reducing herd numbers when so so many are loosing money every year. Do people really beleiv the fairy tale that higher numbers and improved efficiency will bring them into profit?? Or that some minister will step on and make processors pay €4.50/kg for beef ??

    There must be a middle ground between Creeds non interest in farming and any potential GP loosing the run of themselves.

    Google the EU Biodiversity strategy for 2030 - Bringing nature back into our lives .pdf document. From that:

    "It is also important to strictly protect other
    carbon-rich ecosystems such as peatlands, grassland, wetlands and marine ecosystems, taking
    into account projected shifts in vegetation zones. Today, only 3% of land and less than 1% of
    marine areas are strictly protected in the EU.
    30 The ambition level must be increased and at
    least one third of the whole network of protected areas – representing 10% of EU land
    and 10% of EU sea – should be covered by strict protection, in line with the suggested
    international ambition."

    Specifically mentions "grassland".

    Currently 13% of Ireland is designated, they are looking for a 300%+ increase in the area covered by designations, NOT a 30% increase of 13%.

    10% of the total area then is to fall under "strict protection". Forget about farming, any other activities, planning, road alteration and so forth. Except in Ireland, seeing as we have 20% of the state defined as peatland, that 10% strictly could well be a higher %.

    Google the definition of strict protection 1a. But from the Biodiversity 2030 document itself:

    "28 In an EU context, strict protection means a level of protection which is not necessarily no-go, but that allows
    no significant disturbance of natural ecological processes."

    Which doesn't rule out strictly protected areas being human no go areas.

    Google "CAP Strategic Plan GAEC 2"

    In that you'll find the undefined term of "appropriate protection" of peatland. That could affect CAP payments and stocking rates. Land drained by grant in the 70's or 80's? Look out.

    There's more, stuff in the pfg, playacting in a pilot LIFE project, but I've enough typing done.

    There's no "middle ground" with designations, they are statutory instruments. Your land get's designated, becomes instantly devalued, you must inform any future purchaser of their particular before sale (which of the 39 ARC's apply in the case of SAC's. Activities you can or cannot do are out of your hands, whether you have the best or worst will in the world won't matter if it doesn't align with the designation.

    Historically designations have not been valued by the state.

    I'm happy to repeat, farmers are asleep.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,446 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Bloody case of bubonic plague in china now


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Bloody case of bubonic plague in china now

    a bit of info on it here.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53305721


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo




  • Registered Users Posts: 24,446 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.




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  • Registered Users Posts: 29,516 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    I always wore dunlop purofort wellies. I bought a pair of Bekina wellies in March and a hole came in them yesterday. They were comfortable but back to puroforts today and back to stones getting stuck in the grips of them. Thought I'd get longer than 3 months out of the bekinas


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    whelan2 wrote: »
    I always wore dunlop purofort wellies. I bought a pair of Bekina wellies in March and a hole came in them yesterday. They were comfortable but back to puroforts today and back to stones getting stuck in the grips of them. Thought I'd get longer than 3 months out of the bekinas

    I have used superglue, fold open the hole and drop in some superglue. Don't clean off the excess when you release the fold back, leave it overnight.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    PARC, road safety, will holding Barry Cowan's feet to the flames in the Dail tomorrow. In particular they want to know if he ever sat a test before the drink driving arrest. Also the date he passed his test, and did he display an N plate while driving to the Dail.

    https://img2.thejournal.ie/inline/2454656/original/?width=450&version=2454656


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,218 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Vbe interesting to see what his story is.
    Could be one of those people who never manage to pass a test, although as a rural TD and an Auctioneer, nerves seem an unlikely excuse.
    Could have been getting an added category on an existing licence, a truck or a trailer etc, and been on a provisional until hot the test.

    If could have never bothered renewing it, a chap local to me was stopped at a Covid checkpoint and the licence was out for 7 years...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    ganmo wrote: »

    Lads i used to drink with in Oz would be fond of a bitta Ketamine at the weekends and used to take Clenbuteryol to burn fat during the week after the gym. Ketamines a horse tranquilizer and they lose the use of their legs after a while on it during the session and Clenbuteryol is used to treat Asthma in horses but apparently burns fat i humans. A special breed for sure.

    Better living everyone



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  • Registered Users Posts: 576 ✭✭✭GNWoodd


    PARC, road safety, will holding Barry Cowan's feet to the flames in the Dail tomorrow. In particular they want to know if he ever sat a test before the drink driving arrest. Also the date he passed his test, and did he display an N plate while driving to the Dail.

    https://img2.thejournal.ie/inline/2454656/original/?width=450&version=2454656
    Do we ever learn in this country ? We are still dealing with aftermath of zealously pursuing people who had “sinned “ in their past .
    I’m no fan of him or his politics but it is time to move on . The hangem and flogem brigade will never have enough though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    GNWoodd wrote: »
    Do we ever learn in this country ? We are still dealing with aftermath of zealously pursuing people who had “sinned “ in their past .
    I’m no fan of him or his politics but it is time to move on . The hangem and flogem brigade will never have enough though.

    But should elected officials not be held to a higher standard?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    But should elected officials not be held to a higher standard?

    Hard set to hold the religous organisations accountable at all so theyll hardly hold one of their own to a higher standard

    Better living everyone



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    Hard set to hold the religous organisations accountable at all so theyll hardly hold one of their own to a higher standard

    Oh, I know...

    And there’s fcuk all we can do about it really, but I don’t think we should say ‘ah, sure it’s grand’ either...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    Oh, I know...

    And there’s fcuk all we can do about it really, but I don’t think we should say ‘ah, sure it’s grand’ either...

    Let he cast the first stone be without sin or something along those lines, if they are going to hang him out to dry let the rest of them be researched in detail and see if theres anymore skeletons in the closet.

    Better living everyone



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    Let he cast the first stone be without sin or something along those lines, if they are going to hang him out to dry let the rest of them be researched in detail and see if theres anymore skeletons in the closet.

    No, just let him lose the ministry and let it be a lesson to anyone who wants to be minister that they can’t be acting the bollox... that it will eventually catch up with them...


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,497 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Shur all the Greens smoke weed.

    And the new Children's minister admires a paedophile.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    We vote them in. warts and all.
    tis a dirty job as they say


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,497 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    A bit of unashamedly virtue signalling!! :pac:

    A good book to read is - Quality Agriculture, volume 1 by John Kempf.

    It's done as each chapter is a question and answer conversation with a different farmer, educater, specialist.
    It's very easy to read and a bit different.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭dar31


    whelan2 wrote: »
    I always wore dunlop purofort wellies. I bought a pair of Bekina wellies in March and a hole came in them yesterday. They were comfortable but back to puroforts today and back to stones getting stuck in the grips of them. Thought I'd get longer than 3 months out of the bekinas

    Skellerup quatro insulated gumboots. On my first pair, got them last Dec. Slightly tighter fit around ankles, take a bit more effort to get off, but comfie as he'll. Never go back to other two brands.
    Also used to have a problem with crap kicking up off the heel of wellies on to the back of my calves, trousers destroyed after 20 min down the yard. It has more or less stop in new wellies.
    Worth the few quid extra


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,529 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    dar31 wrote: »
    Skellerup quatro insulated gumboots. On my first pair, got them last Dec. Slightly tighter fit around ankles, take a bit more effort to get off, but comfie as he'll. Never go back to other two brands.
    Also used to have a problem with crap kicking up off the heel of wellies on to the back of my calves, trousers destroyed after 20 min down the yard. It has more or less stop in new wellies.
    Worth the few quid extra

    I have a pair of them too, very comfy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,773 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    dar31 wrote: »
    Skellerup quatro insulated gumboots. On my first pair, got them last Dec. Slightly tighter fit around ankles, take a bit more effort to get off, but comfie as he'll. Never go back to other two brands.
    Also used to have a problem with crap kicking up off the heel of wellies on to the back of my calves, trousers destroyed after 20 min down the yard. It has more or less stop in new wellies.
    Worth the few quid extra

    Where did you get them? When you spend so much time wearing them, worth getting the right pair.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭dar31


    Where did you get them? When you spend so much time wearing them, worth getting the right pair.

    Gregg care think there is a few other online places that do them. Missus wears Aigle wellies and loves them but a bit too dear if going through a few pairs a year


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,567 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Rang a machinery dealer in north about a horse box .
    He had three come on ahead.

    Nearly two hours to get there.

    God damn trailers were in bits. One rotten to the ground and two Freisan calves in pure muck in it.
    One with hub missing and broken door
    One broken ramp, wasn’t the size he said it was and four inches of calf scour in it.

    Calves were in bits, no feed, no water, just muck. Was so shocked I never even looked to see if they were tagged.

    Didn’t even go back to the office, looked at the trailers, got in the car and left.

    At least it was a wet day wasted.

    Total jokers !!


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,516 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Lovely


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,567 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Lovely

    Day for it too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭Wildsurfer


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Lovely

    So when you said you got a guy in to do the powerwashing to 'free up time to do other jobs' I thought you meant spread fertilizer, do up a cashflow budget, stuff like that!


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,516 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Have been trying to book fai soccer camp for young lad all day. Site keeps crashing and when I went to log in earlier I was logged into someone account from Blarney git their email address etc. Total GDPR fook up. Site down now


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    Went to Fota wildlife park and Blarney castle on the way yesterday. Great weather for it. It was a really enjoyable day. The lads were blown away by the forest and grounds at Blarney.

    Glad it was yesterday and not today. It rained non stop here


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    Went to Fota wildlife park and Blarney castle on the way yesterday. Great weather for it. It was a really enjoyable day. The lads were blown away by the forest and grounds at Blarney.

    Glad it was yesterday and not today. It rained non stop here

    Rained all day at work today too thought i escaped it by moving to site tomorrow and spent the evening doing inductions only to find out were pushed back till Thursday, rain down for Tomorrow and were out all day in it lovely.

    Better living everyone



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