Farming Chitchat 10/10- Now VIRUS-FREE!

Farmer Dan

kevthegaff wrote: »

Does anyone know what a section 12 entails from a county council inspection, inspector wasnt happy no channels just slips around the silage slab and clean water mixing with dirt in an old yard. Asking for a friend ;-(

Local Government (Water Pollution) Act, 1977

12.—(1) Where it appears to a local authority that it is necessary to do so in order to prevent or control pollution of waters, it may serve a notice in writing under this section on any person having the custody or control of any polluting matter on premises in its functional area.

(2) A notice under this section shall—

(a) specify the measures which appear to the local authority serving the notice to be necessary in order to prevent such matter from entering waters,

(b) direct the person on whom the notice is served to take such measures as are specified in the notice, and

(c) specify a period within which such measures are to be taken.

(3) A person on whom a notice under this section is served may make representations to the local authority concerned regarding the terms of the notice within such period as may be specified in the notice and the authority, after consideration of any such representations, may amend the notice.

(4) Where a notice under this section is not complied with in the period specified in the notice, the person on whom it was served shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding £250, together with, in the case of a continuing offence, a further fine not exceeding £100 for every day on which the offence is continued.

(5) Where a person does not comply with a notice under this section within the period specified in the notice, the local authority which served the notice may take any steps it considers necessary to prevent polluting matter in relation to which the notice is served from entering waters, and may recover the cost of such steps from the person on whom the notice is served as a simple contract debt in a court of competent jurisdiction.

(6) A prosecution for an offence under this section may be taken by a local authority.

jaymla627

Water John wrote: »

Stick with the cows, Jay.

Look the women up and her past history, even her present, she pro antifa and supported/supports the protests/rioting and basically destruction of law and order in large swathes of American cities that has left them lawless by all accounts , to the point she advocated setting up up a go fund me page to get rioters and looters out on bail back out on to the streets....
America is heading to a place of anarchy and lawlessness not seen since the civil war, a vice president candidate thats advocating this getting into office will be a clusterf**k

Water John

Not going into a tick tack discussion on this thread on the US election, suffice to say Harris was actually a Prosecutor in her past life. She was both DA and AG in CA so implemented the law.
A Biden win will also put manners on Boris and hard Brexit notions.

Gillespy

Water John wrote: »

Stick with the cows, Jay.

Dumb farmer can't have an opinion on American politics? Or you have no response because deep down you know he's telling the truth. God knows why you feel so compelled to defend these people, especially after wasting most of the last four years hysterically pushing the Russian hoax.

_Brian

jaymla627 wrote: »

Look the women up and her past history, even her present, she pro antifa and supported/supports the protests/rioting and basically destruction of law and order in large swathes of American cities that has left them lawless by all accounts , to the point she advocated setting up up a go fund me page to get rioters and looters out on bail back out on to the streets....
America is heading to a place of anarchy and lawlessness not seen since the civil war, a vice president candidate thats advocating this getting into office will be a clusterf**k

You say she’s pro antifa like it’s a bad thing. Like being anti fascist is somehow an unreasonable position.

Lot of people from all white households have no idea what they are talking about. They’ll never understand fascism, racism or white privilege because they will never have to sit their kid down and explain why they are being abused because of their race or skin colour. My neighbor kid was beaten by three grown men last week because he was black, a 15yo kid kicked in the ground by three adult men in broad daylight in Ireland. These are the racists and fascists that live among us. Still we see people slagging off BLM or antifa.

Lot of Irish people have a lot of growing to do.

TheFarrier

Can anyone tell me what the recommended buffer zone for roundup is please??
Can’t see it on the label here

gozunda

_Brian wrote: »

You say she’s pro antifa like it’s a bad thing. Like being anti fascist is somehow an unreasonable position.

Lot of people from all white households have no idea what they are talking about. They’ll never understand fascism, racism or white privilege because they will never have to sit their kid down and explain why they are being abused because of their race or skin colour. My neighbor kid was beaten by three grown men last week because he was black, a 15yo kid kicked in the ground by three adult men in broad daylight in Ireland. These are the racists and fascists that live among us. Still we see people slagging off BLM or antifa.

Lot of Irish people have a lot of growing to do.

It is when that group are actively being the vigilante face of violent rioting and burnings in the US. And you most certainly dont have to sign up to "Antifa' to be against fascism or racism. And whilst very few condone people being abused because of their race or skin colour - we don't have to look to far in our own country for people being abused and killed because of nationality or religious belief. There is hate everywhere. Some of BLM own leaders have called for racism against people exactly because of their skin colour. I have no time for that **** - no matter who advocates it.

Lots of people everywhere have a lot af growing up to do tbf.

Buford T. Justice XIX

These might be interesting to a few.
https://twitter.com/AinePOConnell/status/1313875880670830599?s=19
https://twitter.com/AinePOConnell/status/1313876296192200704?s=19

Birdnuts

Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »

These might be interesting to a few.
https://twitter.com/AinePOConnell/status/1313875880670830599?s=19
https://twitter.com/AinePOConnell/status/1313876296192200704?s=19

And could be significantly improved on too if relevant state agencies got the finger out and educated landowners on better management of such assets

jaymla627

_Brian wrote: »

You say she’s pro antifa like it’s a bad thing. Like being anti fascist is somehow an unreasonable position.

Lot of people from all white households have no idea what they are talking about. They’ll never understand fascism, racism or white privilege because they will never have to sit their kid down and explain why they are being abused because of their race or skin colour. My neighbor kid was beaten by three grown men last week because he was black, a 15yo kid kicked in the ground by three adult men in broad daylight in Ireland. These are the racists and fascists that live among us. Still we see people slagging off BLM or antifa.

Lot of Irish people have a lot of growing to do.

Antifa has morphed into a animal that cant be controlled, their is no denying that systemic racism and abuse of the black population is a generational issue, compounded by a ludacris justice system that's rotten to the core, but what's happening right now over their could spiral into a unrecoverable situation if law and order isn't restored

Danzy

_Brian wrote: »

You say she’s pro antifa like it’s a bad thing. Like being anti fascist is somehow an unreasonable position.

Lot of people from all white households have no idea what they are talking about. They’ll never understand fascism, racism or white privilege because they will never have to sit their kid down and explain why they are being abused because of their race or skin colour. My neighbor kid was beaten by three grown men last week because he was black, a 15yo kid kicked in the ground by three adult men in broad daylight in Ireland. These are the racists and fascists that live among us. Still we see people slagging off BLM or antifa.

Lot of Irish people have a lot of growing to do.

Antifa are largely rich kids on an authoritarian buzz, they get off on mob actions and intimidation.

They say they are anti fascist but they are as near to fascist control freaks as it gets. Same type just pretending that they are opposed to each other.

Antifa activists, nearly exclusively rich white kids have burnt out a generation of black businesses across America in the last few months.

kevthegaff

I loosely follow US politics, and I'm no supporter of either side, but what gets me is the amount of irish people crying out about Bush's invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan and Americas previous foreign policies. Many irish conbeniently ignore Obama's foreign policies, while slating Trump's which has been the opposite of Bushs!

straight

Birdnuts wrote: »

And could be significantly improved on too if relevant state agencies got the finger out and educated landowners on better management of such assets

Maybe it's the state agencies that need education. Who built and maintained the hedgerows for the past 300 years? They are making things worse with their regulations but sure that's no surprise

Birdnuts

Birdnuts wrote: »

And could be significantly improved on too if relevant state agencies got the finger out and educated landowners on better management of such assets

Tbh they would be some of the last people I'd take advice from.

Gillespy

Danzy wrote: »

Antifa are largely rich kids on an authoritarian buzz, they get off on mob actions and intimidation.

They say they are anti fascist but they are as near to fascist control freaks as it gets. Same type just pretending that they are opposed to each other.

Antifa activists, nearly exclusively rich white kids have burnt out a generation of black businesses across America in the last few months.

Fascist and antifa are both sides of the same coin. Normal people with any cop on should find them both abhorrent. Stunning that some instead see them as no different than WW2 allied forces fighting Hitler. I can't think of a bigger insult to them soldiers.

Mooooo

Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »

These might be interesting to a few.
https://twitter.com/AinePOConnell/status/1313875880670830599?s=19
https://twitter.com/AinePOConnell/status/1313876296192200704?s=19

To key is that any sequestration and figures associated with it is used for the farm it's on, not so " carbon credits" can be traded or that bollixing

Buford T. Justice XIX

Mooooo wrote: »

To key is that any sequestration and figures associated with it is used for the farm it's on, not so " carbon credits" can be traded or that bollixing

I was chatting to a lad last night about those figures and he reckons the lower figures are for farms where there are few ditches and the higher ones are for farms with smaller fields and ditches left intact.

Tbh, we're not too far off being carbon neutral, once we have another year of grassland sequestration results added to the hedgerow figures and the ammonia figures vastly reduced (80%) by LESS and protected Urea.

Now, there will be a few kinks showing up that will need to be sorted out but eventually the sectors using the most fossil fuels will be left holding a big bucket of slurry to chow down on after wasting a decade or more in blaming the wrong sector for their emissions.

roosterman71

Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »

I was chatting to a lad last night about those figures and he reckons the lower figures are for farms where there are few ditches and the higher ones are for farms with smaller fields and ditches left intact.

Tbh, we're not too far off being carbon neutral, once we have another year of grassland sequestration results added to the hedgerow figures and the ammonia figures vastly reduced (80%) by LESS and protected Urea.

Now, there will be a few kinks showing up that will need to be sorted out but eventually the sectors using the most fossil fuels will be left holding a big bucket of slurry to chow down on after wasting a decade or more in blaming the wrong sector for their emissions.

Agree with that, but remember those industries have much more money to fire at misinformation campaigns and lobbyists to keep the wolf from their door. The next thing will be that ag should be carbon sinks, much more than now, so that it can be used to offset their own emission figures. Just look at the current ****etalk all over the place regarding ag emissions. It's total hocus pocus. It will be no different when we are the golden child in the sector

funkey_monkey

Does anyone use an app on their phone to track their farm activity - such as dates things were done etc.
Normally I just use the calendar in the phone, but I was wondering if there was something out there that a couple of users could access to read/write.


I've been looking at the Herdwatch app, but really it's only a diary type thing that I'm after.

Buford T. Justice XIX

roosterman71 wrote: »

Agree with that, but remember those industries have much more money to fire at misinformation campaigns and lobbyists to keep the wolf from their door. The next thing will be that ag should be carbon sinks, much more than now, so that it can be used to offset their own emission figures. Just look at the current ****etalk all over the place regarding ag emissions. It's total hocus pocus. It will be no different when we are the golden child in the sector

Money won't be much good to them when the water is lapping around their ankles when making the breakfast.

Dinzee Conlee

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Does anyone use an app on their phone to track their farm activity - such as dates things were done etc.
Normally I just use the calendar in the phone, but I was wondering if there was something out there that a couple of users could access to read/write.


I've been looking at the Herdwatch app, but really it's only a diary type thing that I'm after.

I see google have a calendar app - never used it, but it might be an option?

Link below suggests it might do what you want...
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/google-calendar-personal-journal/

orm0nd

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Does anyone use an app on their phone to track their farm activity - such as dates things were done etc.
Normally I just use the calendar in the phone, but I was wondering if there was something out there that a couple of users could access to read/write.


I've been looking at the Herdwatch app, but really it's only a diary type thing that I'm after.

Using Herd app. here. Changed from Herdwatch this year. My son also logs in and its on the pc in the office as well.

NcdJd

Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »

I was chatting to a lad last night about those figures and he reckons the lower figures are for farms where there are few ditches and the higher ones are for farms with smaller fields and ditches left intact.

Tbh, we're not too far off being carbon neutral, once we have another year of grassland sequestration results added to the hedgerow figures and the ammonia figures vastly reduced (80%) by LESS and protected Urea.

Now, there will be a few kinks showing up that will need to be sorted out but eventually the sectors using the most fossil fuels will be left holding a big bucket of slurry to chow down on after wasting a decade or more in blaming the wrong sector for their emissions.

I see Bluesky is gonna do a tree mapping exercise in Ireland. Will be interesting to see how much tree coverage we actually have. Teagasc has the estimate at 11%.

Qoute from article

"For example, in England it was generally accepted that tree cover was around 10% but our National Tree Map revealed that it was in fact closer to 14%. Early production outputs indicate a similar pattern for Ireland which had previously been reported as having the lowest tree cover in the whole of Europe at around 11% whilst in fact we are seeing levels slightly in excess of this.”

https://www.growtrade.ie/bluesky-creates-national-tree-map-for-ireland/

older by the day

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

I see google have a calendar app - never used it, but it might be an option?

Link below suggests it might do what you want...
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/google-calendar-personal-journal/

As if Google don't know enough about me, I might as well give them a daily update

Dinzee Conlee

older by the day wrote: »

As if Google don't know enough about me, I might as well give them a daily update

Sure the calendar would be perfect for that

Birdnuts

NcdJd wrote: »

I see Bluesky is gonna do a tree mapping exercise in Ireland. Will be interesting to see how much tree coverage we actually have. Teagasc has the estimate at 11%.

Qoute from article

"For example, in England it was generally accepted that tree cover was around 10% but our National Tree Map revealed that it was in fact closer to 14%. Early production outputs indicate a similar pattern for Ireland which had previously been reported as having the lowest tree cover in the whole of Europe at around 11% whilst in fact we are seeing levels slightly in excess of this.”

https://www.growtrade.ie/bluesky-creates-national-tree-map-for-ireland/

Interesting but sadly most of our tree cover is made up of alien spruce plantations planted on former peatlands/wetlands that were our main carbon sinks before they were drained and ploughed for forestry. The area of native woodland is barely 2% which is still pretty much the lowest in relevant EU countries ie. similar soil climate types:(

zetecescort

not quite Brazil but its good to see us pass the ball a bit instead of hoofing it down the field

NcdJd

Birdnuts wrote: »

Interesting but sadly most of our tree cover is made up of alien spruce plantations planted on former peatlands/wetlands that were our main carbon sinks before they were drained and ploughed for forestry. The area of native woodland is barely 2% which is still pretty much the lowest in relevant EU countries ie. similar soil climate types:(

They might be able to distinguish between coniferous and broadleaf using colour filters? Should be interesting as I'd wonder if hedgerow trees are counted in that 2%.

tanko

zetecescort wrote: »

not quite Brazil but its good to see us pass the ball a bit instead of hoofing it down the field

Could have lost it by now and should have won it also.
Could go either way, looking like penalties.

Birdnuts

tanko wrote: »

Could have lost it by now and should have won it also.
Could go either way, looking like penalties.

Best we've played in years - would be sickening now if we go out now on penos!!:(