Farming Chitchat 10/10- Now VIRUS-FREE!

whelan2

kollegeknight wrote: »

Long time no post- have been up the walls with no slow down. Not even getting a chance to read boards. School never been as busy. Hoping that we well be allowed stay open. It will be no good for students staying at home.

Got a lad to powerwash the sheds- normally do it myself with a rented washer but couldn’t be bothered.

Got a lad to powerwash here too. Took a bit of pressure off me.

_Brian

Danzy wrote: »

Heard that rumour as well.

They'll avoid level 5 as much as possible.

Level 5, back to lockdown will cost and destroy a lot of lives. It's not without a savage cost.

Mrs was looking at data for school going kids and it showed no increase in cases since schools opened, if that’s accurate what would be the science behind closing schools.

Maybe to drive that figure even lower but I’m not sure it would work. Came through local town yesterday afternoon and there were groups of teens hanging about together. If the schools close that will only get worse and negate any advantage.

kollegeknight

_Brian wrote: »

Mrs was looking at data for school going kids and it showed no increase in cases since schools opened, if that’s accurate what would be the science behind closing schools.

Maybe to drive that figure even lower but I’m not sure it would work. Came through local town yesterday afternoon and there were groups of teens hanging about together. If the schools close that will only get worse and negate any advantage.

I know I have never been as busy trying to ensure social distancing etc. But to be honest if they were allowed free range during another lockdown. I reckon it will be harder second time around to ensure compliance indoors. Leading up to Halloween and Christmas

Base price

It looks like contaminated molasses was responsible for the growth promoter found in Gain feeds.
https://www.theirishfield.ie/news-molasses-recalled-over-horse-feed-contamination-576627/?fbclid=IwAR1CEbGXq8JRWK3LxohvL4aU8zKdHlLJI_skSV-jUPul1DTXrlgOJT-FWII

ganmo

Base price wrote: »

It looks like contaminated molasses was responsible for the growth promoter found in Gain feeds.
https://www.theirishfield.ie/news-molasses-recalled-over-horse-feed-contamination-576627/?fbclid=IwAR1CEbGXq8JRWK3LxohvL4aU8zKdHlLJI_skSV-jUPul1DTXrlgOJT-FWII

Say my name put your speak in to 'dispose' some of that molasses

Say my name

ganmo wrote: »

Say my name put your speak in to 'dispose' some of that molasses

I had to check the label on a just bought ibc tank.
Delivered to branch November 2018.
Hopefully that's before all this stuff.

I know you're joking but if you wouldn't eat it yourself it shouldn't really be going on the soil.
Yea I get some groceries in a multinational.

Water John

Well it would certainly boost growth, molasses is better than you ever thought it would be.

Say my name

Water John wrote: »

Well it would certainly boost growth, molasses is better than you ever thought it would be.

It's not all that simple.
I've it far from figured out.

You're in transition I believe to organic. So maybe you've a bit of an inside line to organic farmers and practices.
What's your opinion on molasses use on the soil and do many org farmers use it?

*Putting you on the spot. :pac:

Water John

TBH hadn't heard of it. Really, is it basically sugar plus some trace elements?

Say my name

Water John wrote: »

TBH hadn't heard of it. Really, is it basically sugar plus some trace elements?

Yep... and without the hoof falling off chemicals.
There's some very picky about the type of molasses too.

zetecescort

no idea if its been shown before but a 4 part series "Mud, Sweat and Tractors" just starting on BBC4.

tanko

Looks like an interesting programme starting on BBC4 now

foxy farmer

Some hard wirey men around back then. Plenty hard graft. They had no need for gyms and running.

gozunda

Talking of programmes- just listened to this on Lyric FM

https://amp.rte.ie/amp/1170614/?__twitter_impression=true

My impression of same? The biggest piece of hippy dippy **** I've heard since Woodstock. And thats been unfair to hippies tbh

The underlying message was that everyone must get down, commune and 'love 'nature by rewilding the countryside, reintroduce wolves, allow farmland to run wild and etc.

Lots of commentary from other similar loved up types living somewhere on planet zog.

Overall an absolute crock of ****e imo but could have been mistaken for a green party manifesto ...

gozunda

gozunda wrote: »

could have been mistaken for a green party manifesto ...

One of the producers, unless I'm mistaken had it on his Twitter bio that he is a member of the GP, seems to be gone off it now.

gozunda

[Deleted User] wrote: »

One of the producers, unless I'm mistaken had it on his Twitter bio that he is a member of the GP, seems to be gone off it now.

Funny thing was the rewilding which was endlessly pushed in the programme detailed the Highlands of Scotland which was held up as a model which we should follow here

Apart from the unmentioned fact that large parts of the Highlands are uninhabited and owned by multi-millionaires targeting carbon capture investments

The programme makers may wish to check out the failed experiment in rewilding which happened in the Netherlands

https://whyy.org/segments/the-netherlands-grand-rewilding-experiment-gone-haywire/

gozunda

gozunda wrote: »

Funny thing was the rewilding which was endlessly pushed in the programme detailed the Highlands of Scotland which was held up as a model which we should follow here

Apart from the unmentioned fact that large parts of the Highlands are uninhabited and owned by multi-millionaires targeting carbon capture investments

The programme makers may wish to check out the failed experiment in rewilding which happened in the Netherlands

https://whyy.org/segments/the-netherlands-grand-rewilding-experiment-gone-haywire/

Rewilding would be a thing for the same guy. As for what happened in the Netherlands they would tell you it wasn't true rewilding as the population wasn't regulated by apex predators. That then opens their case for introduction of wolves, lynx etc.

gozunda

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Rewilding would be a thing for the same guy. As for what happened in the Netherlands they would tell you it wasn't true rewilding as the population wasn't regulated by apex predators. That then opens their case for introduction of wolves, lynx etc.

Somehow I cant see our same concerned friends being overjoyed at the reality of wolves predating cute animals such as bambi and friends.

Tbf - I'm quite happy to support rewilding and the reintroduction of predators such as wolves in places otherwise totally deficit in wildlife such as urban areas. I propose that random properties are CPO'd and joined together into suitable reserves. I'm sure Green Party members will be more than willing to support this idea ...

gozunda

gozunda wrote: »

Somehow I cant see our same concerned friends being overjoyed at the reality of wolves predating cute animals such as bambi and friends.

Tbf - I'm quite happy to support rewilding and the reintroduction of predators such as wolves in places otherwise totally deficit in wildlife such as urban areas. I propose that random properties are CPO'd and joined together into suitable reserves. I'm sure Green Party members will be more than willing to support this idea ...

They argue that deer numbers could be controlled by wolves. But as I said previously my well connected deer stalking mate says NPWS had 5k stalking applications, and had only processed 2k of them. In other news, totally unrelated, two NPWS rangers were at a rewilding event where I met one of the producers of that programme. So rangers don't set policy, but who else was there I don't know?

It's like a farm meeting I was at just prior the our last election, a very recently retired senior civil servant from Ag was campaigning for a particular candidate of a particular party. My travel companion that evening posed the question, did that sit right with me? I'm still unsure of the answer, I do FEEL uncomfortable about it however which suggests something.

On one hand, do I see a misleading pattern, on the other hand do I see something of concern. I don't know.

longgonesilver

Easiest way would be to open the cages and gates in Dublin Zoo and let all the animals roam around the Phoenix Park, live reality TV. Throw in a dozen RTE celebs, it would keep the nation entertained for the next lockdown.

gozunda

[Deleted User] wrote: »

They argue that deer numbers could be controlled by wolves. But as I said previously my well connected deer stalking mate says NPWS had 5k stalking applications, and had only processed 2k of them. In other news, totally unrelated, two NPWS rangers were at a rewilding event where I met one of the producers of that programme. So rangers don't set policy, but who else was there I don't know?

It's like a farm meeting I was at just prior the our last election, a very recently retired senior civil servant from Ag was campaigning for a particular candidate of a particular party. My travel companion that evening posed the question, did that sit right with me? I'm still unsure of the answer, I do FEEL uncomfortable about it however which suggests something.

On one hand, do I see a misleading pattern, on the other hand do I see something of concern. I don't know.

Some of those possibly do. But considing the screamfest which ensued over the reduction of deer numbers in the Phoenix Park - the reality of wolves taking down live deer will likely face similar reactions as other forms of wildlife controls do.

I'd sceptically suggest the current 'rewilding' is more about targeting animal farming and less about any rebalance of nature

Base price

We had a cow that was off on Friday and tbh it stumped OH and I as to what was up with her. She didn't come to the trough (trock ) for a nip of meal. She wasn't showing any symptoms other than drooling/slobbering. We brought her into the yard and I took her temperature and it was OK. We checked her mouth to see if she had a abscess/broken tooth . We let her back out to the field.

Saturday morning she was worse with her sides empty. Phoned our Vet and after she examined her she said it was Fog Fever and to keep her off that field and on hay for the week. Vet gave her intravenous injections and left us injections to give her.
Our Vet said that she had come across a few cases of Fog Fever in the last couple of weeks.

gozunda

Base price wrote: »

We had a cow that was off on Friday and tbh it stumped OH and I as to what was up with her. She didn't come to the trough (trock ) for a nip of meal. She wasn't showing any symptoms other than drooling/slobbering. We brought her into the yard and I took her temperature and it was OK. We checked her mouth to see if she had a abscess/broken tooth . We let her back out to the field.

Saturday morning she was worse with her sides empty. Phoned our Vet and after she examined her she said it was Fog Fever and to keep her off that field and on hay for the week. Vet gave her intravenous injections and left us injections to give her.
Our Vet said that she had come across a few cases of Fog Fever in the last couple of weeks.

Did the cow have a change of feed or anything Base?

_Brian

Base price wrote: »

We had a cow that was off on Friday and tbh it stumped OH and I as to what was up with her. She didn't come to the trough (trock ) for a nip of meal. She wasn't showing any symptoms other than drooling/slobbering. We brought her into the yard and I took her temperature and it was OK. We checked her mouth to see if she had a abscess/broken tooth . We let her back out to the field.

Saturday morning she was worse with her sides empty. Phoned our Vet and after she examined her she said it was Fog Fever and to keep her off that field and on hay for the week. Vet gave her intravenous injections and left us injections to give her.
Our Vet said that she had come across a few cases of Fog Fever in the last couple of weeks.

I had to google it. Something I’d never heard of before.

Base price

gozunda wrote: »

Did the cow have a change of feed or anything Base?

She was bought in earlier that week so we reckon she was on bare ground.

Water John

I see John Fogarty gets PP. If he's the guy I used to know, an absolute gentleman and wish him well on the venture.
https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/an-bord-pleanala-approval-for-tipperary-solar-farm/

Water John

Ch 4 showing US intensive farming ATM.

Dinzee Conlee

Water John wrote: »

I see John Fogarty gets PP. If he's the guy I used to know, an absolute gentleman and wish him well on the venture.
https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/an-bord-pleanala-approval-for-tipperary-solar-farm/

A solar farm on 8.3ha, that’s about 20acres...
I was under the mistaken impression that all solar farms had to be big, 100+ acre sites...
I’d be more in favour of smaller ones like this...

Water John

The vast majority in number terms are just 5Mw, that's 25 acres. This was thought to be a possibly dividing line in scale in terms of Power Purchase Agreement (PPA). Also was a reasonable size to connect to a local substation on the distribution grid.

NcdJd

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

A solar farm on 8.3ha, that’s about 20acres...
I was under the mistaken impression that all solar farms had to be big, 100+ acre sites...
I’d be more in favour of smaller ones like this...

Is it just one field or multiple fields ? Do they have to lay the panels within existing field boundaries Dinzee?

Sorry don't think I'm been clear in my question, can they basically rip out all the field boundary hedgerows to make one field for the panels.