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Ireland's asylum hotel monthly bill tops €3.54m

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    #332
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    SporadicMan wrote: »
    Can anyone remind me what the benefits are for the normal people of the country to take all these young, male "refugees" into the country?

    How can anyone look at this stuff and then get surprised / shocked when more people become racist / turn to far right views?

    From my travels around Europe, they are vital in terms of the Selfy-Stick economy around train stations. They are also a vital cog in the Mini Eiffel Tower Key Ring industry. Need fake sunglasses in Spain? They got ya.


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    #333
    SporadicMan
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭SporadicMan


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    From my travels around Europe, they are vital in terms of the Selfy-Stick economy around train stations. They are also a vital cog in the Mini Eiffel Tower Key Ring industry. Need fake sunglasses in Spain? They got ya.

    Yes, it's great that we'll now be able to make tourists feel uncomfortable at all of our major landmarks. I didn't quite realise what we were missing until you said this. :pac:


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    #334
    JohnMc1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    SporadicMan wrote: »
    Can anyone remind me what the benefits are for the normal people of the country to take all these young, male "refugees" into the country?

    How can anyone look at this stuff and then get surprised / shocked when more people become racist / turn to far right views?

    DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH YOU BIGOT!!!!! WE'RE STRONGER TOGETHER YOU NAZI!!!!!!!!

    That's pretty much all the Left to defend this scam. All these "refugees" are Men of military age and are certainly very fit.

    Rape and violent crime have skyrocketed in Western Europe since this started, Govts and media are trying to bury any crime they commit and they get priority on our housing lists while 10,000 Irish [4,000 being children. And that's only what the Govt will admit up to] die in the streets. They'll demand we change everything about our Country to accommodate them while contributing nothing to it.

    Gee, I wonder why racial tensions are rising in the West.


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    #335
    lola85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭lola85


    enricoh wrote: »
    Numbers up 40% this year iirc. Keep em coming.

    When the tiger calved at least we got plenty of motorways out of it. Next time the economy calves we'll have spent all the dough on free housing and welfare for spoofers n spongers- our own and imported.

    Keep bleating on about the governments need to build houses for everyone who presents as homeless or has their name on a list and these people will keep coming.

    Why wouldn’t they.


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    #336
    Boggles
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    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    Govts and media are trying to bury any crime they commit and they get priority on our housing lists while 10,000 Irish [4,000 being children. And that's only what the Govt will admit up to] die in the streets. They'll demand we change everything about our Country to accommodate them while contributing nothing to it.

    :eek:

    You need to go public with this information.


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    #337
    Il Fascista
    Closed Accounts Posts: 199 ✭✭Il Fascista


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    From my travels around Europe, they are vital in terms of the Selfy-Stick economy around train stations. They are also a vital cog in the Mini Eiffel Tower Key Ring industry. Need fake sunglasses in Spain? They got ya.


    These nice gentlemen are charging tourists for artwork after they've accidentally stood on them:


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    #338
    Blueshoe
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    Il Fascista wrote: »
    These nice gentlemen are charging tourists for artwork after they've accidentally stood on them:



    I can't wait to see them in Dublin. Mostly because I don't live in Dublin. Hopefully they annoy locals as much as tourists.

    The police obviously don't give a toss either. Just like home


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    #339
    SchrodingersCat
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    SporadicMan wrote: »
    Can anyone remind me what the benefits are for the normal people of the country to take all these young, male "refugees" into the country?

    How can anyone look at this stuff and then get surprised / shocked when more people become racist / turn to far right views?

    A couple of reasons. Some believe that the moral thing to do is to help those that are worse off than us. Asylum seekers that get refugee status often are fleeing war torn countries or famine. Another reason is economics. There are studies that demonstrate the benefits of getting people of working age into a country.


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    #340
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Just a reminder: 40% of adult African nationals in Ireland are employed, far less than the average for Irish natives or for other immigrant groups.

    The moral thing for us to do is to help the Irish workers who are paying for all of these non-EU migrants who are not working, by performing real due diligence on who we allow into our country.


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    punisher5112
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    SchrodingersCat wrote: »
    A couple of reasons. Some believe that the moral thing to do is to help those that are worse off than us. Asylum seekers that get refugee status often are fleeing war torn countries or famine. Another reason is economics. There are studies that demonstrate the benefits of getting people of working age into a country.

    To not work???


    Mainly all don't work and never will work, why would they.... They'd be actually quite stupid if they did....


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    #342
    punisher5112
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    I would love to see similar rules to that of new Zealand and Australia.


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    #343
    JohnMc1
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    Kivaro wrote: »
    Just a reminder: 40% of adult African nationals in Ireland are employed,.

    And I'm sure RTE and the Govt will peddle it as a great success. Much like the German media and Govt did last year when they touted that 25% of the migrants that came over in 2015 are now in employment [conveniently ignoring the fact that 75% are still on the dole] and a sign of successful integration.


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    #344
    JohnMc1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    I would love to see similar rules to that of new Zealand and Australia.

    They've already surrendered. Australia already has Sharia Zones and NZ's Prime Minister surrendered after Christchurch.


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    #345
    Blueshoe
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    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    They've already surrendered. Australia already has Sharia Zones and NZ's Prime Minister surrendered after Christchurch.

    New Zealand's capitulation was alarming. The definition of surrender.


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    #346
    vriesmays
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    Kivaro wrote: »
    Just a reminder: 40% of adult African nationals in Ireland are employed, far less than the average for Irish natives or for other immigrant groups.
    Which continent has the lowest average IQ.


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    #347
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    vriesmays wrote: »
    Which continent has the lowest average IQ.
    That should not be surprising, as most likely the majority do not have access to quality education. To me, that is the source of the African problem. Instead of sending billions and billions to quangos and NGOs and enriching the elite of these African countries, the money should be re-directed to all facets of education, from rudimentary to third level and to vocational-type schools.
    Empower the people with education and you will find that it improves the continent's fortunes. This, in turn, will turn the migrant tide back inward.

    All African aid money should have a substantial percentage dedicated to education.
    The roots of education are bitter, but the fruit is sweet. (Aristotle)


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    #348
    Blueshoe
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    Kivaro wrote: »
    That should not be surprising, as most likely the majority do not have access to quality education. To me, that is the source of the African problem. Instead of sending billions and billions to quangos and NGOs and enriching the elite of these African countries, the money should be re-directed to all facets of education, from rudimentary to third level and to vocational-type schools.
    Empower the people with education and you will find that it improves the continent's fortunes. This, in turn, will turn the migrant tide back inward.

    All African aid money should have a substantial percentage dedicated to education.
    The roots of education are bitter, but the fruit is sweet. (Aristotle)

    They get 134 billion a year as it is


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    #349
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    They get 134 billion a year as it is
    Going to the wrong places/people.
    It's an outrageous amount of money, and we are not getting anywhere near a decent return of investment.

    So, try a different approach.


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    #350
    vriesmays
    Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    Kivaro wrote: »
    That should not be surprising, as most likely the majority do not have access to quality education. To me, that is the source of the African problem. Instead of sending billions and billions to quangos and NGOs and enriching the elite of these African countries, the money should be re-directed to all facets of education, from rudimentary to third level and to vocational-type schools.
    Empower the people with education and you will find that it improves the continent's fortunes. This, in turn, will turn the migrant tide back inward.

    All African aid money should have a substantial percentage dedicated to education.
    The roots of education are bitter, but the fruit is sweet. (Aristotle)

    That won't work, donating aid to non-capitalist countries is money down the drain.


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    #351
    Blueshoe
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    Kivaro wrote: »
    Going to the wrong places/people.
    It's an outrageous amount of money, and we are not getting anywhere near a decent return of investment.

    So, try a different approach.

    Invite here and build them houses?
    Would that work?

    Paddy can clock in another few hours overtime.


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    #352
    Boggles
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    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    They've already surrendered. Australia already has Sharia Zones and NZ's Prime Minister surrendered after Christchurch.

    Please do explain this one?

    If you are capable after your 10,000 Irish homeless dying in the streets bollix.


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    #353
    JohnMc1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    Boggles wrote: »
    Please do explain this one?

    If you are capable after your 10,000 Irish homeless dying in the streets bollix.

    You're actually denying that there are 10,000 Irish on the streets? Even RTE of all places admits that. :rolleyes:


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    #354
    Boggles
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    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    You're actually denying that there are 10,000 Irish on the streets? Even RTE of all places admits that. :rolleyes:

    They are homeless, they are not on the streets, but that is not the bollix I was talking about.

    This is
    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    10,000 Irish [4,000 being children. And that's only what the Govt will admit up to] die in the streets.

    Link? Or will RTE not report 1000s of people dying in the streets.

    Also could you answer this when you get a chance.
    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    They've already surrendered. Australia already has Sharia Zones and NZ's Prime Minister surrendered after Christchurch.

    Please do explain this one?


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    #355
    JohnMc1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


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    The Lefties on this forum.


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    #356
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,236 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    The Lefties on this forum.

    If you call someone out for mass amounts of bullshít you are a leftie?

    Interesting to know.


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    #357
    SchrodingersCat
    Registered Users Posts: 852 ✭✭✭SchrodingersCat


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    To not work???


    Mainly all don't work and never will work, why would they.

    Thats not true.


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    #358
    JohnMc1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    Boggles wrote: »
    If you call someone out for mass amounts of bullshít you are a leftie?

    Interesting to know.

    10,000 Homeless is not bull****.


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    #359
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Why can't we focus on the fact that our government is mismanaging city planning instead of pitting asylum seekers versus homeless people.


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    #360
    JohnMc1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Why can't we focus on the fact that our government is mismanaging city planning instead of pitting asylum seekers versus homeless people.

    With 10,000 on the streets we should not be taking in migrants.


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    #361
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    With 10,000 on the streets we should not be taking in migrants.

    But there is not 10,000 on the streets .

    10,000 in emergency accommodation .

    6000 asylum seekers in direct provision accommodation.


    What we need is actual control over our own immigrants if we need skilled people bring them in , bringing thousands who want a better life funded by us taxpayers with lifelong benefits , medical cards ,social housing and pensions ,
    Is not the way to go ,it's basket case policy and demands of a small group of people
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