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Derelict house, how much can I knock down?

  • 12-08-2019 3:08pm
    #1
    tom1ie
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    Hi all
    A friend of mine has a site with an old derelict house on it that hasn’t been lived in for a good many years.
    He’s not from the area.
    I presume knocking down the old house and building a new passive house would require planning obviously.
    Therefore how much of the old derelict house can be knocked down, do the four outside walls have to remain standing?
    I presume a 40m2 extension would be allowed to be built without planning?
    Lots of questions at the moment but I’ll start with them.
    Tom.


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  • #2
    Gumbo
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    tom1ie wrote: »
    Hi all
    A friend of mine has a site with an old derelict house on it that hasn’t been lived in for a good many years.
    He’s not from the area.
    I presume knocking down the old house and building a new passive house would require planning obviously.
    Therefore how much of the old derelict house can be knocked down, do the four outside walls have to remain standing?
    I presume a 40m2 extension would be allowed to be built without planning?
    Lots of questions at the moment but I’ll start with them.
    Tom.

    Subject to planning you can knock as much as you are granted to do.
    You cannot knock a dwelling down at all without planning.


  • #3
    tom1ie
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    So you would still have to apply for planning to gut the house and roof but leave the four outside walls standing and of course not being from the area, the chances of planning being granted are significantly reduced. Is that correct?


  • #4
    Gumbo
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    tom1ie wrote: »
    So you would still have to apply for planning to gut the house and roof but leave the four outside walls standing and of course not being from the area, the chances of planning being granted are significantly reduced. Is that correct?

    Depend son how long it’s been derelict.
    After 10 years you need planning to reinstate its use as a dwelling.


  • #5
    Rows Grower
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    Knock the lot and have everything new.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #6
    tom1ie
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    Rows Grower wrote: »
    Knock the lot and have everything new.

    But that requires planning?


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  • #7
    tom1ie
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    kceire wrote: »
    Depend son how long it’s been derelict.
    After 10 years you need planning to reinstate its use as a dwelling.

    Great. Thanks for the info kceire.


  • #8
    Rows Grower
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    tom1ie wrote: »
    But that requires planning?

    You're going to need planning anyway from the sounds of it.

    I've worked on a few houses that were totally modernised after being left derelict and the one common thing all the owners would have done differently is knocked the four walls as well and started with a fresh shell.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #9
    Gumbo
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    Rows Grower wrote: »
    You're going to need planning anyway from the sounds of it.

    I've worked on a few houses that were totally modernised after being left derelict and the one common thing all the owners would have done differently is knocked the four walls as well and started with a fresh shell.

    The problem is if he knocks it then local needs may apply which the OP has hinted at not being acceptable for.


  • #10
    tom1ie
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    kceire wrote: »
    Rows Grower wrote: »
    You're going to need planning anyway from the sounds of it.

    I've worked on a few houses that were totally modernised after being left derelict and the one common thing all the owners would have done differently is knocked the four walls as well and started with a fresh shell.

    The problem is if he knocks it then local needs may apply which the OP has hinted at not being acceptable for.

    That's the problem in a nutshell.


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